You need to invest in some legal advice since your moral compass is clearly lacking.
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Positive outcome is positive outcome..congrats to chrome and kudos to videosecrets for coming around and doing the right thing.
One thing, Brad - "While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion" is pretty lame. The guy didn't quit YOU he quit the business altogether. All of your affiliates can NEVER leave the biz? And where is the love for HIM sending YOU the thousands of dollars a month biz that you got? This whole affiliate marketing concept is a two-way street.
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well worded .. polite and to the point .... I truly believe this was exactly the right thing of chrome to do by originally posting it in GFY .. thats is why webmaster forums were created ..talk about what products are selling who is/was shaving ..programs that are having issues and even possibly how to help out another person we do business with ..and of course public discussion on what ever else we do in this business .. the end result will be good for both parties concerned ....Decent call VS now its settled it will be all but forgotten in a week .. and of course .. .. BEERS ON CHROME..!!! cheers ..No sig .. just meComment
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See this is what I don't get.Many of you disagreed with our policy and made your opinions quite clear. While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion we have decided to amend our Terms & Conditions in favor of a LIFETIME PAYOUT.
You people are the only people who seem to think this way. It's incorrect in both logic and practice.
You're sending the affiliate thousands of dollars a month because he sent you a customer that is spending thousands of dollars a month. It's a commissioned based partnership for the duration of the active customer.
Thats the whole idea behind lifetime revshare.
There should't be a "blackmail" clause forcing an affilate to continue sending traffic in order to get paid for commissions already earned.
You marketed your program to webmasters as "lifetime revshare". I've consluted with all the revshare based programs that send me money and they have all confirmed that "lifetime" means the life of the active consumer regardless of traffic that I may or may not send in the future.
With that I'm happy to see that VS has decided to honor it's side of the bargain.7Comment
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We'll have to wait a few days to see if alexa reflects anything.Yup flirt4free.com's traffic has actually been way up this week lol.
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i am glad vs finally did the right thing... it would have been nice to apologize to chrome for some of the remarks, but at least he got his money...
in an industry that has so much backstabbing, stealing, etc.. its nice to see people come together to do something positive for someone else..Comment
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I trust Greg and Chuck and Brad and the whole team at VS.
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That's really awesome of VS!
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Nice to see a positive resolution to all of this...
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I am sure it was cleared up but can we please have chrome back to verify that everything is indeed kosher with him.
As people say always more than one side and I would just like to hear from other side too to feel that it has indeed been fixed.Comment
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I can concur. I'd like to hear his side too. This could be just a ploy beings the thread magically disappeared and chrome got banned.
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That's right. I forgot he was banned. I was wondering why I didn't see his name in here thanking them.Comment
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So, in total, how many people where banned over this before it was finally resolved. GFY showed its true colors with this one.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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This is an excellent position and correction to the situation and I commend you guys for it.
I held back from any position or posting or bumping of threads for the very reason that there seemed to be a horrendous, possibly premature backlash involved in that contentious thread.
I'm also glad to see I was right to hold back. It would have been in poor taste and a little vulturous to kick someone when they were down, to hamstring a competitor just because of human error and popular, and unjustified, vindictiveness and mob mentality.
Live video chat is a very special part and niche of adult entertainment, and we should either stick it to the nay-sayer, or stick together, in the long run.
Good move, VideoSecrets.
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Thanks brujah for that.Comment
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I tend to agree - and am glad that VS made the choice to agree with webmasters in how their terms were interpreted. Though this whole matter should not have gotten this far - hope VS recovers from this and can move on since it will stick in the minds of webmasters for a long long time.Comment
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Interesting. Like I said in my original post, VS paid us more than 5 years after we stopped sending traffic so I have NEVER doubted their integrity one bit. And I did not even know I was owed money.
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