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  • Intruder
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 185

    #51
    You need to invest in some legal advice since your moral compass is clearly lacking.



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    • Fetish Videos
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2008
      • 100

      #52
      Positive outcome is positive outcome..congrats to chrome and kudos to videosecrets for coming around and doing the right thing.

      One thing, Brad - "While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion" is pretty lame. The guy didn't quit YOU he quit the business altogether. All of your affiliates can NEVER leave the biz? And where is the love for HIM sending YOU the thousands of dollars a month biz that you got? This whole affiliate marketing concept is a two-way street.

      Anyway, the important thing is you stepped up - which was likely very hard to do considering the public beating, so VS deserves positive comments now just like they deserved the negative ones before. Credit where due, etc..
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      • jakethedog
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2004
        • 2497

        #53
        well worded .. polite and to the point .... I truly believe this was exactly the right thing of chrome to do by originally posting it in GFY .. thats is why webmaster forums were created ..talk about what products are selling who is/was shaving ..programs that are having issues and even possibly how to help out another person we do business with ..and of course public discussion on what ever else we do in this business .. the end result will be good for both parties concerned ....Decent call VS now its settled it will be all but forgotten in a week .. and of course .. .. BEERS ON CHROME..!!! cheers ..
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        • thehand
          235 Pound Gorilla
          • Apr 2003
          • 3470

          #54
          Originally posted by IntenseJerry
          JFK, I totally agree. Looking forward to seeing Tim and Eddie in Vegas, you guys rock! J
          Thank you Jerry, I am looking forward to some time outside of the office myself
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          • fuzebox
            making it rain
            • Oct 2003
            • 22367

            #55
            As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.

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            • CurrentlySober
              Too lazy to wipe my ass
              • Aug 2002
              • 38986

              #56
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              • kenny
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2002
                • 7245

                #57
                Originally posted by videosecrets_brad
                Many of you disagreed with our policy and made your opinions quite clear. While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion we have decided to amend our Terms & Conditions in favor of a LIFETIME PAYOUT.
                See this is what I don't get.

                You people are the only people who seem to think this way. It's incorrect in both logic and practice.

                You're sending the affiliate thousands of dollars a month because he sent you a customer that is spending thousands of dollars a month. It's a commissioned based partnership for the duration of the active customer.

                Thats the whole idea behind lifetime revshare.

                There should't be a "blackmail" clause forcing an affilate to continue sending traffic in order to get paid for commissions already earned.


                You marketed your program to webmasters as "lifetime revshare". I've consluted with all the revshare based programs that send me money and they have all confirmed that "lifetime" means the life of the active consumer regardless of traffic that I may or may not send in the future.

                With that I'm happy to see that VS has decided to honor it's side of the bargain.
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                • kenny
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 7245

                  #58
                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                  As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.

                  I agree.

                  You'd expect to see the traffic to videosecrets.com increase and the traffic to it's paysites decrease.
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                  • IntenseJerry
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 785

                    #59
                    Originally posted by thehand
                    Thank you Jerry, I am looking forward to some time outside of the office myself
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                    • stickyfingerz
                      Doin fine
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 24984

                      #60
                      Originally posted by kenny
                      I agree.

                      You'd expect to see the traffic to videosecrets.com increase and the traffic to it's paysites decrease.
                      Yup flirt4free.com's traffic has actually been way up this week lol.

                      http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...flirt4free.com

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                      • Serge Litehead
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 5190

                        #61
                        Originally posted by fuzebox
                        As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.

                        It's true, although all joins go through billing.vs.com and there has been a decline as well according to Alexa.

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                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 30307

                          #62


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                          • Socks
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 8475

                            #63
                            You make that Alien? I'm impressed!

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                            • kenny
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 7245

                              #64
                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                              Yup flirt4free.com's traffic has actually been way up this week lol.

                              http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...flirt4free.com
                              We'll have to wait a few days to see if alexa reflects anything.

                              1) It's currently reflecting up to June 15th

                              2) Alexa isn't very accurate
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                              • IntenseJerry
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 785

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Socks
                                You make that Alien? I'm impressed!
                                Good job, that is impressive...
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                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 2664

                                  #66
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                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 30307

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Socks
                                    You make that Alien? I'm impressed!
                                    Yes On the business side I do way better, I try not to be the guy I am on the boards and try and keep everything professional Ask around I am not always an asshole

                                    I help where I can.

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                                    • marketsmart
                                      HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 20419

                                      #68
                                      i am glad vs finally did the right thing... it would have been nice to apologize to chrome for some of the remarks, but at least he got his money...

                                      in an industry that has so much backstabbing, stealing, etc.. its nice to see people come together to do something positive for someone else..

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                                      • webmasterchecks
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2006
                                        • 1685

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by RayBonga


                                        might have had somethign to do with this outcome
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                                        • Hollywood Horwitz
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                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 4357

                                          #70
                                          good to see a peaceful outcome and its all been resolved.
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                                          • jcsike
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2006
                                            • 689

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by RayBonga


                                            might have had somethign to do with this outcome
                                            that very well may have been a fatal decision for VS

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                                            • candyflip
                                              Carpe Visio
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 43073

                                              #72
                                              Way to backpeddle. That traffic drop had to hurt.

                                              I love seeing all the ass-kissers come out now too.

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                                              • After Shock Media
                                                It's coming look busy
                                                • Mar 2001
                                                • 35299

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by payd2purv
                                                That's awesome!
                                                Oh seriously fuck you ya little flip flopping bleeding hemroid on the ass of the industry.

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                                                • XPays
                                                  Team Player
                                                  • May 2004
                                                  • 13002

                                                  #74
                                                  I trust Greg and Chuck and Brad and the whole team at VS.

                                                  A positive move would be to invite all of you to the mansion in December. Hopefully, I will see you there.
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                                                  • fris
                                                    I have to go potty
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 55817

                                                    #75
                                                    nice move, but it shouldnt have come to this
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                                                    • dav3
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2007
                                                      • 7348

                                                      #76
                                                      That's really awesome of VS!

                                                      Nice!
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                                                      • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 38323

                                                        #77
                                                        Nice to see a positive resolution to all of this...

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                                                        • Pornopat
                                                          AdultTubeSubmits.com
                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                          • 10598

                                                          #78
                                                          Congrats on doing the right thing.
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                                                          • Darkhorse
                                                            Horsing Around
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 5882

                                                            #79
                                                            lol @ everyone who was bagging them out changing there minds so quickly..... Fact is if this guy didn't bring it to gfy he would of been told to fuck off......

                                                            They would of changed nothing and we wouldn't of been the wiser....

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                                                            • LeRoy
                                                              Porn Pusher
                                                              • Jul 2007
                                                              • 13362

                                                              #80
                                                              This is good news.
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                                                              • xNetworx
                                                                So Fucking What
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 14445

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Chauncy
                                                                way to step up and do the right thing A+ move

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                                                                • After Shock Media
                                                                  It's coming look busy
                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                  • 35299

                                                                  #82
                                                                  I am sure it was cleared up but can we please have chrome back to verify that everything is indeed kosher with him.

                                                                  As people say always more than one side and I would just like to hear from other side too to feel that it has indeed been fixed.

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                                                                  • Brujah
                                                                    Beer Money Baron
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 22157

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Whatever the reason, it's the right move and I'm glad they didn't let ego's or anything get in the way. Good thing to hear, from Brad and from VS.

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                                                                    • 421Fill
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                      • 20659

                                                                      #84
                                                                      gotta say this isn't what I expected when the thread got locked or deleted or moved or whatever happened to it.

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                                                                      • Gnus
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                        • 577

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                        I am sure it was cleared up but can we please have chrome back to verify that everything is indeed kosher with him.

                                                                        As people say always more than one side and I would just like to hear from other side too to feel that it has indeed been fixed.
                                                                        I can concur. I'd like to hear his side too. This could be just a ploy beings the thread magically disappeared and chrome got banned.

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                                                                        • Helix
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 6021

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Good biz decision VS. I'd like to see chome check in on this.

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                                                                          • SwiftRoll
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Apr 2008
                                                                            • 13

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Good news for all parties.
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                                                                            • CyberHustler
                                                                              Masterbaiter
                                                                              • Feb 2006
                                                                              • 28794

                                                                              #88
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                                                                              • dav3
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2007
                                                                                • 7348

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                I am sure it was cleared up but can we please have chrome back to verify that everything is indeed kosher with him.

                                                                                As people say always more than one side and I would just like to hear from other side too to feel that it has indeed been fixed.
                                                                                That's right. I forgot he was banned. I was wondering why I didn't see his name in here thanking them.
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                                                                                • Kard63
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                  • 8944

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Goodjob vs, no one is right all the time so how you deal with being wrong means a lot.

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                                                                                  • Samantha_Luvcox
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                    • 396

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    So, in total, how many people where banned over this before it was finally resolved. GFY showed its true colors with this one.
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                                                                                    • Brujah
                                                                                      Beer Money Baron
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 22157

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by Gnus
                                                                                      I can concur. I'd like to hear his side too. This could be just a ploy beings the thread magically disappeared and chrome got banned.

                                                                                      Gary
                                                                                      He posted on other boards where he didn't get banned for a legitimate gripe. He confirmed that they called him and resolved the matter. He's happy.

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                                                                                      • Pics Traffic
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                        • 3055

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by RayBonga


                                                                                        might have had somethign to do with this outcome
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                                                                                        • dav3
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2007
                                                                                          • 7348

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                          He posted on other boards where he didn't get banned for a legitimate gripe. He confirmed that they called him and resolved the matter. He's happy.
                                                                                          high five!
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                                                                                          • MediaGuy
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                                                            • 5500

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            This is an excellent position and correction to the situation and I commend you guys for it.

                                                                                            I held back from any position or posting or bumping of threads for the very reason that there seemed to be a horrendous, possibly premature backlash involved in that contentious thread.

                                                                                            I'm also glad to see I was right to hold back. It would have been in poor taste and a little vulturous to kick someone when they were down, to hamstring a competitor just because of human error and popular, and unjustified, vindictiveness and mob mentality.

                                                                                            Live video chat is a very special part and niche of adult entertainment, and we should either stick it to the nay-sayer, or stick together, in the long run.

                                                                                            Good move, VideoSecrets.

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                                                                                            • qxm
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                              • 5970

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by RayBonga


                                                                                              might have had somethign to do with this outcome
                                                                                              This graph clearly states:

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                                                                                              • After Shock Media
                                                                                                It's coming look busy
                                                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                                                • 35299

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Thanks brujah for that.

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                                                                                                • jscott
                                                                                                  jscizzle
                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                  • 25454

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  +1 vote to unban chrome, was very unnecessary to ban him
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                                                                                                  • TheLegacy
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                    • 18214

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by jscott
                                                                                                    +1 vote to unban chrome, was very unnecessary to ban him
                                                                                                    I tend to agree - and am glad that VS made the choice to agree with webmasters in how their terms were interpreted. Though this whole matter should not have gotten this far - hope VS recovers from this and can move on since it will stick in the minds of webmasters for a long long time.

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                                                                                                    • OY
                                                                                                      Industry Pioneer
                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                      • 5401

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Interesting. Like I said in my original post, VS paid us more than 5 years after we stopped sending traffic so I have NEVER doubted their integrity one bit. And I did not even know I was owed money.
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