Originally Posted by Jel

yeah that's a bit shitty, and I feel for you there mate. To take your personal experience out of the equation though, that's like saying you should ban drinking and/or being drunk around anyone under 18, because some people beat their kids while drunk.

At what point do you stop micro-managing people because of the few? Not a single smoker I know would not wind down windows if there's a non-smoker in the car, nor smoke with a small child in the car. Obviously that does happen, but again, to ban smoking with anyone under 18 (16 is legal to buy cigs) in the car, windows rolled down, is just a cash grab - albeit a clever one because of the emotions it stirs in people, as they immediately think of small kids being suffocated by smoke rather than a perfectly legal 17 year old smoker as a passenger.

Very very slippery slope.