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  • Relentless
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    • Aug 2006
    • 5697
    #151
    MONTERREY, Mexico -- A Mexican man once listed as the world's heaviest human being died Monday at the age of 48. Manuel Uribe had slimmed down to about 867 pounds, well below his then-record peak weight of 1,230 pounds, which was certified in 2006 as a Guinness World Record


    If only we could have gotten him into the cage in his prime. At 1,230 pounds, by a matter of "basic physics" he would have beat anyone!! Just imagine if Mike Tyson or Jon Jones or anyone else would have hit his massive body with their tiny hands. They would have exploded from the impact with his girth!!

    Weight is all that matters? Really... ?


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      • Anthony
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        • Feb 2001
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        #152
        Originally posted by crucifissio
        brock actually dominated him for the whole fight...he put him down in the first 2 seconds and the only reason mir got up was because he turned his head whilst brock was ground and pounding him and the ref called it a strike to the back of the head...it was more mir turning away from the punches like a pussy

        frank mir is only 20lb lighter than brock he is a big big guy...and he lost like a bitch in the 2nd fight...he was brocks human punching bag in both fights...
        1st Fight. Brock tapped to a knee bar.

        2nd Fight. Brock won with strikes.

        I don't think your argument really holds much water.

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          • pimpmaster9000
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            • Dec 2011
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            #153
            Originally posted by Anthony
            Seriously, before you come up on me about facts on BJJ you need to go back to school. BJJ is comprised of three different types of training. BJJ for the Gi. Bjj for No Gi. Bjj for MMA/Vale Tudo. Noob.
            dude google it...go to a BJJ competition and ill give you 1000$ for every punch you see thrown on the mat, that does not result in direct disqualification and a riot

            Originally posted by Anthony

            You must be talking from experience. Please show me a video of you doing this to a 6th Degree BJJ Blackbelt. You must have something like that right? Or you are you just talking out your ass. Doing it to a white or blue belt who you outweigh isn't the same thing.
            I submit black belts regularly and they submit me...after 10 years training its not a tall statement...its just you being romantic about royce


            Originally posted by Anthony
            Purely Anecdotal statement. You haven't shown one example of you doing it to anyone, let alone Royce Gracie. Anyone can say anything. But there's video proof of Royce tapping out a 400lbs man, can't say the same for you.

            You aren't a trained fighter or anything for that matter if you are basing your fighting prowess over WHITE AND BLUE BELTS.
            you want video proof that its easier to control your opponent when he is in GI than when he is not in GI? or video proof of a big guy submitting a small guy on pure strength? watch lesnar vs mir 2 and thats only 20lb difference...man Im 60lb+ on royce
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              • Relentless
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                #154
                Originally posted by crucifissio
                brock actually dominated him for the whole fight...
                You may have missed this part here...
                The part where Brock tapped to avoid having his leg broken by a man who weighed much less than him:


                Watch in slow motion... and show me where Brock 'dominated him for the whole fight' ;)


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                  • Anthony
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                    • Feb 2001
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                    #155
                    Originally posted by crucifissio
                    dude google it...go to a BJJ competition and ill give you 1000$ for every punch you see thrown on the mat, that does not result in direct disqualification and a riot
                    You must have a reading comprehension issue.


                    I submit black belts regularly and they submit me...after 10 years training its not a tall statement...its just you being romantic about royce
                    Show me one competition vid. You haven't yet.


                    you want video proof that its easier to control your opponent when he is in GI than when he is not in GI? or video proof of a big guy submitting a small guy on pure strength? watch lesnar vs mir 2 and thats only 20lb difference...man Im 60lb+ on royce
                    Jesus Christ, it's like talking to a wall. SHOW PROOF OF YOUR GRAPPLING GOD LIKE POWERS. POST ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS WINNING AT GRAPPLING.

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                      • pimpmaster9000
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                        • Dec 2011
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                        #156
                        Originally posted by Relentless

                        Weight is all that matters? Really... ?
                        technique is nothing without power...it matters very little in no gi...

                        how do you control a strong slippery mother fucker with technique alone? answer: you dont!
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                          • pimpmaster9000
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                            #157
                            Originally posted by Relentless

                            Watch in slow motion... and show me where Brock 'dominated him for the whole fight' ;)
                            if you want me to comment on the video do not put in a slow motion of only the part where mir did the leg lock and leave out the bulk of the fight where mir was brocks human punching bag...
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                              • Anthony
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                                • Feb 2001
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                                #158
                                I've wasted enough time here. Video for everyone to see how a very technical small man will beat a larger/stronger opponent in BJJ.

                                Marcelo Garcia vs Former UFC CHampion Arlovski
                                Marcelo Garcia vs. Former UFC Champion, Andre Arvloski Training No Gi BJJ Submission Grappling - YouTube
                                I like it when Marcelo tells Andre he's very strong.

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                                  • Anthony
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                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 9653
                                    #159
                                    Originally posted by crucifissio
                                    technique is nothing without power...it matters very little in no gi...

                                    how do you control a strong slippery mother fucker with technique alone? answer: you dont!
                                    Who do you train with, and who are you instructors? If they aren't teaching you how to control someone No Gi, you either have poor instructors, or you don't listen well to instruction and mostly likely the meat head that powers and muscles out of everything.

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                                      • pimpmaster9000
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                                        • Dec 2011
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                                        #160
                                        Originally posted by Anthony
                                        You must have a reading comprehension issue.
                                        Show me one competition vid. You haven't yet.
                                        Jesus Christ, it's like talking to a wall. SHOW PROOF OF YOUR GRAPPLING GOD LIKE POWERS. POST ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS WINNING AT GRAPPLING.
                                        but its not god like powers its average powers you are high it the clouds with your head in your dream world where royce is unbeatable by a 60lb+ guy...wake up LOL
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                                          • Anthony
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                                            • Feb 2001
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                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by crucifissio
                                            but its not god like powers its average powers you are high it the clouds with your head in your dream world where royce is unbeatable by a 60lb+ guy...wake up LOL
                                            Royces is just the subject here because he was brought up. I frankly don't think you could beat anyone over blue belt.

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                                              • pimpmaster9000
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                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by Anthony
                                                Who do you train with, and who are you instructors? If they aren't teaching you how to control someone No Gi, you either have poor instructors, or you don't listen well to instruction and mostly likely the meat head that powers and muscles out of everything.
                                                go to any BJJ class and ask anybody about how technique is less important in no-gi than it is in gi...you fail to see the basic principle that it is easier to control a person when you have something to hold on to (GI) than it is to control a slippery mother fucker in a rashguard...

                                                now what good is technique when the guy you are fighting is slippery? give me one example...

                                                ill be fair and give you an example of how you can control with brute force: squeeze like a mother fucker and he will slip LESS...

                                                use your brain...

                                                Originally posted by Anthony
                                                I frankly don't think you could beat anyone over blue belt.
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                                                  • Relentless
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                                                    #163
                                                    Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                    if you want me to comment on the video do not put in a slow motion of only the part where mir did the leg lock and leave out the bulk of the fight where mir was brocks human punching bag...
                                                    You said Brock "dominated him for the whole fight" - and in English that means "even including the slow motion part of the video I posted where Mir was breaking his leg." So, explain to me how exactly Brock was dominating Mir by tapping out during the part of the fight that actually generated the result of the fight... Thanks.


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                                                      • pimpmaster9000
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                                                        #164
                                                        Originally posted by Relentless
                                                        You said Brock "dominated him for the whole fight" - and in English that means "even including the slow motion part of the video I posted where Mir was breaking his leg." So, explain to me how exactly Brock was dominating Mir by tapping out during the part of the fight that actually generated the result of the fight... Thanks.
                                                        the fight was 90 seconds...80 of which mir was brocks human punching bag...in the last 10 seconds mir did ONE leg lock to a fighter who is not technically advanced...oh and the only reason mir got up was the referee decided it was a punch to the back of the head when in fact mir turned his head like a bitch from the ponding

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                                                          • Anthony
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                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 9653
                                                            #165
                                                            Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                            go to any BJJ class and ask anybody about how technique is less important in no-gi than it is in gi...you fail to see the basic principle that it is easier to control a person when you have something to hold on to (GI) than it is to control a slippery mother fucker in a rashguard..
                                                            No argument has been made to the contrary of that, you're the only one arguing it over and over again.

                                                            now what good is technique when the guy you are fighting is slippery? give me one example...
                                                            In what position?

                                                            From Top off the top of my head. Any way you can control one shoulder and head movement you can control your opponent. There are 4 parts you need to control, both hips, and both shoulders. Control one cross section, you control you opponent.

                                                            Side mount, you can use a side mount crucifix, you have shoulder of justice.
                                                            Back, you have over and under seatbelt
                                                            Mount itself with grapevines.

                                                            From Bottom
                                                            De La Riva
                                                            Xguard
                                                            Rubber Guard
                                                            Lockdown
                                                            50/50 Guard
                                                            Closed Guard
                                                            Butterfly Guard
                                                            Overhook Guard
                                                            Shit I can keep going.
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                                                            ill be fair and give you an example of how you can control with brute force: squeeze like a mother fucker and he will slip LESS...

                                                            use your brain...
                                                            And your explanation is the reason why you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Only noobs say shit like squeeze hard.

                                                            And I'm done... {DROPS MIKE}

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                                                              • Relentless
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                                                                #166
                                                                Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                the fight was 90 seconds...80 of which mir was brocks human punching bag...in the last 10 seconds mir did ONE leg lock to a fighter who is not technically advanced...
                                                                Here is where you sound like a complete fucktard....

                                                                Let's break it all down into 6 easy to understand concepts for you:
                                                                1 - Mir won the fight

                                                                2 - Mir could have broken Brock's leg easily if he wanted to do so

                                                                3 - Brock was infinitely more advanced at MMA than Tyson (according to Tyson)

                                                                4 - Mir WON THE FIGHT

                                                                5 - Mir weighed 25 pounds less than Brock

                                                                6 - MIR WON THE FUCKING FIGHT


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                                                                  • TheSquealer
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                                                                    • Oct 2004
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                                                                    #167
                                                                    Glory is on tonight Anthony on Spike at 9pm ET. - it's always worth watching if you appreciate striking. There is a heavyweight championship bout as well. Or as Bruce Lee would have called it "fights and fighters that are pussies I could destroy simply because I was the chauffeur in Green Hornet, bitches"
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                                                                      • Relentless
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                                                                        #168
                                                                        Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                        Glory is on tonight Anthony on Spike at 9pm ET. - it's always worth watching if you appreciate striking. There is a heavyweight championship bout as well. Or as Bruce Lee would have called it "fights and fighters that are pussies I could destroy simply because I was the chauffeur in Green Hornet, bitches"
                                                                        Why watch Glory at all... why watch anything other than Sumo - since they are the largest (and therefore clearly the best) all around fighters in the world as a matter of 'basic physics' right? /facepalm


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                                                                          • Anthony
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                                                                            • Feb 2001
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                                                                            #169
                                                                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                            Glory is on tonight Anthony on Spike at 9pm ET. - it's always worth watching if you appreciate striking. There is a heavyweight championship bout as well. Or as Bruce Lee would have called it "fights and fighters that are pussies I could destroy simply because I was the chauffeur in Green Hornet, bitches"
                                                                            Woot thanks! Is Petrosyan fighting? One of my fave fighters. I'm integrating a lot of his movement into my kid's striking. Just pure surgical skill. Problem is my kids a righty, so it's been a bitch to get him southpaw.

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                                                                              • TheSquealer
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                                                                                • Oct 2004
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                                                                                #170
                                                                                Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                                Why watch Glory at all... why watch anything other than Sumo - since they are the largest (and therefore clearly the best) all around fighters in the world as a matter of 'basic physics' right? /facepalm
                                                                                You are making a lot of stuff up.

                                                                                1) I used the physics to demonstrate that Bruce Lees "1 inch punch" is clearly fake. Something he demonstrated time and time again for the naive masses to oooh and awe at. Where do you EVER hear about this amazing technique today? You don't. It was never real.

                                                                                2) no one said anything about weight being the end all be all of fighting. You boxed yourself into making that argument to avoid he obvious fact that weight matters a great deal and offers a distinct advantage between two trained fighters. That is not something that can be argued against and once again, let me point out that your beloved UFC started with no weight classes and had to move to weight classes for what is an obvious reason to any sane person.

                                                                                Lastly, I cannot speak for Anthony

                                                                                But...
                                                                                You haven't spent a great deal of your life punching and getting punching, kicking and getting kicked, taking people down and getting taken down, submitting and being submitted nor have you spent any time in any traditional Chinese or Japanese styles of martial arts as both Anthony and I have. When I owned a martial arts school, I made it a point to study or familiarize myself every fighting system I could because I found myself
                                                                                Increasingly fascinated with all of the silly cult like bullshit surrounding them. I am currently training for a very big fight - and doing it just because I really love the sport and I love the science of fighting. What do you do related to the topic besides talk in circles?

                                                                                Our comments come from experience, yours come from watching old movies.

                                                                                In the case of assessing Bruce Lees abilities, your opinions come from watching choreographed fight scenes and as has been pointed out countless times, he was NEVER a fighter, a simple fact would any reasonable person would factor in to the assessment of his ability to fight an actual fighter.
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                                                                                  • Anthony
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                                                                                    • Feb 2001
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                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                    You are making a lot of stuff up.

                                                                                    1) I used the physics to demonstrate that Bruce Lees "1 inch punch" is clearly fake. Something he demonstrated time and time again for the naive masses to oooh and awe at. Where do you EVER hear about this amazing technique today? You don't. It was never real.

                                                                                    2) no one said anything about weight being the end all be all of fighting. You boxed yourself into making that argument to avoid he obvious fact that weight matters a great deal and offers a distinct advantage between two trained fighters. That is not something that can be argued against and once again, let me point out that the IFC started with no weight classes and had to move to weight classes for what is an obvious reason to any sane person.

                                                                                    Lastly, I cannot speak for Anthony

                                                                                    But...
                                                                                    You haven't spent a great deal of your life punching and getting punching, kicking and getting kicked, taking people down and getting taken down, submitting and being submitted nor have you spent any time in any traditional Chinese or Japanese styles of martial arts as both Anthony and I have. When I owned a martial arts school, I made it a point to study or familiarize myself every fighting system I could because I found myself
                                                                                    Increasingly fascinated with all of the silly cult like bullshit surrounding them. I am currently training for a very big fight - and doing it just because I really love the sport and I love the science of fighting. What do you do related to the topic besides talk in circles?

                                                                                    Our comments come from experience, yours come from watching old movies.

                                                                                    In the case of assessing Bruce Lees abilities, your opinions come from watching choreographed fight scenes and as has been pointed out countless times, he was NEVER a fighter, a simple fact would any reasonable person would factor in to the assessment of his ability to fight an actual fighter.
                                                                                    I think he was being sarcastic towards Crusifixxio.

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                                                                                      • TheSquealer
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                                                                                        • Oct 2004
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                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                        I think he was being sarcastic towards Crusifixxio.
                                                                                        I don't do jujitsu but I've been around it a lot and a lot of black belts on mma gyms. Never heard anyone ever say something like they could easily submit Hoyce Gracie. Kinda funny. Though there can be a huge gap in ability within same belts, I'm still betting on the guy who dedicated his life to it and did nothing but complete. Also funny to mention "no GI" as a disadvantage from him. I don't think he fought any UFC or other mma opponents that were wearing a GI ;)
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                                                                                          • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                            • Dec 2011
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                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                            In what position?

                                                                                            From Top off the top of my head. Any way you can control one shoulder and head movement you can control your opponent. There are 4 parts you need to control, both hips, and both shoulders. Control one cross section, you control you opponent.
                                                                                            fair enough in a GI fight...but in no GI you actually have to control a body part and an underhook to the shoulder and lets say a behind the neck hold mean little if the other guy is a big strong sweaty gorilla...

                                                                                            you disqualified my "squeeze harder" argument as amateur but being able to exert a lot of force means a lot when grabbing a body part that is slippery...I have big hands and find it easier to control my opponents by grabbing their wrists and ankles in a no-gi fight...and yes squeezing like a mother fucker will sometimes prevent them from moving and can gain me an advantage in position or a finish...being able to stand the fuck up, because I am a slippery gorilla, means a lot in a fight...you keep disqualifying strength in a wrestling match LOL come on man...dont be such a romantic LOL
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                                                                                              • Anthony
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                                                                                                Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                fair enough in a GI fight...but in no GI you actually have to control a body part and an underhook to the shoulder and lets say a behind the neck hold mean little if the other guy is a big strong sweaty gorilla...

                                                                                                you disqualified my "squeeze harder" argument as amateur but being able to exert a lot of force means a lot when grabbing a body part that is slippery...I have big hands and find it easier to control my opponents by grabbing their wrists and ankles in a no-gi fight...and yes squeezing like a mother fucker will sometimes prevent them from moving and can gain me an advantage in position or a finish...being able to stand the fuck up, because I am a slippery gorilla, means a lot in a fight...you keep disqualifying strength in a wrestling match LOL come on man...dont be such a romantic LOL
                                                                                                Why do you keep coming back for more? You've been shown up as a clown noob. I'm not even remotely interested in debating anything with you. You keep repeating pedantic arguments without any basis in fact. I know BJJ inherently is gay, so I feel strangely aroused every time you call me romantic. But you're not my type. SO thanks, but no thanks.

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                                                                                                  • Anthony
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                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Your reading comprehension is so atrocious, you actually agreed with what I said, thereby negating your own argument.

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                                                                                                      • Nickatilynx
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                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Anthony

                                                                                                        you have shoulder of justice.
                                                                                                        Justice!!!!
                                                                                                        LOLLOLOL
                                                                                                        ant will no why I am laughing.... ;)


                                                                                                        Seems like any thread on gfy...ever. ;)

                                                                                                        People who KNOW through experience and learning, arguing with people who could not buy a clue.

                                                                                                        and of course...relentless...living up to his name ;)

                                                                                                        and me coming in posting gratuitous winky faces... ;)
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                                                                                                          • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                            I don't do jujitsu but I've been around it a lot and a lot of black belts on mma gyms. Never heard anyone ever say something like they could easily submit Hoyce Gracie. Kinda funny. Though there can be a huge gap in ability within same belts, I'm still betting on the guy who dedicated his life to it and did nothing but complete. Also funny to mention "no GI" as a disadvantage from him. I don't think he fought any UFC or other mma opponents that were wearing a GI ;)
                                                                                                            I said royce would dismantle me in a GI and that I would be lucky to tap him once in 100 fights...

                                                                                                            no-gi is another story and any super heavy fighter could do the same to a 60lb lighter man...

                                                                                                            yes rocye fought guys who are no gi but they were completely dumb to any sort of ground work or submission wrestling...had the guys been in GI royce would have finished them 5x easier and earlier...if royce had a choice he would have chosen all his opponents wear a gi and he himslef goes no gi...this is a no brainer to anybody who knows anything about martial arts...royce himself did not wear a gi in the UFC for the same reason I would not wear one against royce
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                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                I know BJJ inherently is gay, .
                                                                                                                What !?!?!?!?!?! ;)

                                                                                                                You finally accept it looks just like a San Franciscan domestic dispute!!!!

                                                                                                                Myself and others have, literally ,spent weeks of time trying to get you to admit this!!

                                                                                                                ;)
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                                                                                                                  • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                    Why do you keep coming back for more? You've been shown up as a clown noob. I'm not even remotely interested in debating anything with you. You keep repeating pedantic arguments without any basis in fact. I know BJJ inherently is gay, so I feel strangely aroused every time you call me romantic. But you're not my type. SO thanks, but no thanks.
                                                                                                                    I understand...you want to keep on living in your dream bubble royce was a great hero of mine too...
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                                                                                                                      • TheSquealer
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                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                        royce himself did not wear a gi in the UFC for the same reason I would not wear one against royce
                                                                                                                        Uhmm..... you have to be just making up random bullshit at this point... or you're just really young and know nothing about his fights and history.
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                                                                                                                          • Nickatilynx
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                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                            .this is a no brainer to anybody who knows anything about martial arts...royce himself did not wear a gi in the UFC for the same reason I would not wear one against royce
                                                                                                                            oh the humiliation...

                                                                                                                            I believe he did in UFC1 and used it to choke the bitch.LOL


                                                                                                                            I mean as you say anyone that knows anything...maybe I am wrong...but I am not an expert on the Gi and who wears it , like you claim to be.

                                                                                                                            ;)
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                                                                                                                              • Relentless
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                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                                I think he was being sarcastic towards Crusifixxio.
                                                                                                                                Yes, that is correct.... Sorry if the sarcasm wasn't obvious enough


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                                                                                                                                  • Relentless
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                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    I am not a practitioner, but I have been told by experts that "BJJ is only gay if you make eye contact..." ;)


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                                                                                                                                      • TheSquealer
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                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                                                                                        I am not a practitioner, but I have been told by experts that "BJJ is only gay if you make eye contact..." ;)
                                                                                                                                        As i understand, the original general rule was "its only gay if you push back" - the proliferation of BJJ and the necessity to resist/defend which may include "pushing back", made it necessary to then amend the rule and require "eye contact" to be gay.
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                                                                                                                                          • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Nickatilynx
                                                                                                                                            Justice!!!!
                                                                                                                                            LOLLOLOL
                                                                                                                                            ant will no why I am laughing.... ;)


                                                                                                                                            Seems like any thread on gfy...ever. ;)

                                                                                                                                            People who KNOW through experience and learning, arguing with people who could not buy a clue.

                                                                                                                                            and of course...relentless...living up to his name ;)

                                                                                                                                            and me coming in posting gratuitous winky faces... ;)
                                                                                                                                            Well it was called "Pizza Roll" by Carlson Gracie back in the day, but it's taken on a different name now with "Shoulder Of Justice". A 105lb Girl Chokes Out a 220lb Man...with ONE ARM! (Rob Kahn Seminar) - YouTube

                                                                                                                                            It's a loving type of move, remind me to show you.

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                                                                                                                                              • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                                #186
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                As i understand, the original general rule was "its only gay if you push back" - the proliferation of BJJ and the necessity to resist/defend which may include "pushing back", made it necessary to then amend the rule and require "eye contact" to be gay.
                                                                                                                                                Being able to grab someone and pull them between your legs without making eye contact is one of the things they test you for purple belt.

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                                                                                                                                                  • Relentless
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                                                                                                                                                    #187
                                                                                                                                                    Here is what happens when a submission fighter does an exhibition against an amateur...

                                                                                                                                                    Joe Lauzon vs Timmy The Tooth starts at 5 Minutes in:


                                                                                                                                                    The same thing would happen to any one dimensional boxer


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                                                                                                                                                      • TheSquealer
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                                                                                                                                                        #188
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                                                        Being able to grab someone and pull them between your legs without making eye contact is one of the things they test you for purple belt.
                                                                                                                                                        This is why i could never teach stuff like this. I'd be giving lectures all day to white belts about how to make erections go away, how to get a proper erection, what to do about an erection pressing against you, how to use an erection to distract your opponent, how to avoid hurting your erection, recommending Cialis for advanced, more agressive techniques etc. just to really fuck with people.
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                                                                                                                                                          • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2011
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                                                                                                                                                            #189
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                            Uhmm..... you have to be just making up random bullshit at this point... or you're just really young and know nothing about his fights and history.
                                                                                                                                                            ok he wore a GI in the first UFC-s I have seen 1000-s of fights and do not remember every detail of every fight....it does not really count because UFC rules prohibit you from grabbing an opponents clothing so in all fairness, he was not being a hero about it, it was more of an advantage to him considering that he could use his own lapel to choke somebody out but the opponent could not use royces lapel to choke royce out...

                                                                                                                                                            I am too lazy to search but I know royce competed with no -gi later on in the fights where grabbing the GI was actually allowed...
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                                                                                                                                                              • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                                                #190
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                This is why i could never teach stuff like this. I'd be giving lectures all day to white belts about how to make erections go away, how to get a proper erection, what to do about an erection pressing against you, how to use an erection to distract your opponent, how to avoid hurting your erection, recommending Cialis for advanced, more agressive techniques etc. just to really fuck with people.
                                                                                                                                                                That is fantastic!!! I'm going to have to steal it the next time I get in a BJJ Argument.

                                                                                                                                                                The morning classes usually consists of the older guys, who run their own biz, docs, professionals, etc. Every gym they are referred to as the "Viagra Crew".

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Relentless
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                    #191
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                                                                    I do not remember every detail...it does not really count...I am too lazy
                                                                                                                                                                    Awesome. Thanks for that.


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                                                                                                                                                                      • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                                                        #192
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                                                                                                                        Here is what happens when a submission fighter does an exhibition against an amateur...

                                                                                                                                                                        Joe Lauzon vs Timmy The Tooth starts at 5 Minutes in:


                                                                                                                                                                        The same thing would happen to any one dimensional boxer
                                                                                                                                                                        Here's another good one. Joe Rogan vs Challenger.


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                                                                                                                                                                          • Relentless
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                            #193
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                                                                            Here's another good one. Joe Rogan vs Challenger.
                                                                                                                                                                            People have no idea how good Rogan was/is... he was a champion at Tae Kwon Do and trains with pretty much everyone. He could likely have competed... if he could ever manage to pass a drug test...

                                                                                                                                                                            Here he is choking out an idiot fan


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                                                                                                                                                                                #194
                                                                                                                                                                                Oh man you guys kill me!! LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                I was JOKING about Lee and Kareem. Didn't anyone see Game Of Death?

                                                                                                                                                                                Of course as a black man in America Tyson, like ALL black men (and women, and other races, too) faced discrimination. But that is NOW, not 1958. Mike Tyson ain't no Jackie Robinson is all I am saying, while Bruce Lee is as important to the Asian community as Mr. Robinson is to blacks (and should be to all Americans).

                                                                                                                                                                                What Lee faced, WHEN he faced it, was tougher than what Tyson faced when he faced it (especially after Japan's defeat in WWII - and yes, I know Lee wasn't Japanese but stoopid Americans hated ANY Asian back then). This is not a knock on Tyson or black men (or anyone).

                                                                                                                                                                                Finally, when Lee was actually kicking ass, it was the late fifties/early sixties. Remember the Zapruder film (JFK assassination)? Remember how shitty that looks? This is the quality of any films we would have left of Lee fighting, and some do exist of Lee in competitions with other Chinese Masters.

                                                                                                                                                                                Y'all have taken too many blows to the head in the ring.
                                                                                                                                                                                I prefer blows to the cock.

                                                                                                                                                                                Cock...ring...hmmm...

                                                                                                                                                                                Finally, what are we talking here, fight in a ring with a ref or a street fight in a dark alley? And with or without nunchuks? Man I ain't interested if there ain't no nunchuks!!
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #195
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh man you guys kill me!! LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                    I was JOKING about Lee and Kareem. Didn't anyone see Game Of Death?

                                                                                                                                                                                    Of course as a black man in America Tyson, like ALL black men (and women, and other races, too) faced discrimination. But that is NOW, not 1958. Mike Tyson ain't no Jackie Robinson is all I am saying, while Bruce Lee is as important to the Asian community as Mr. Robinson is to blacks (and should be to all Americans).

                                                                                                                                                                                    What Lee faced, WHEN he faced it, was tougher than what Tyson faced when he faced it (especially after Japan's defeat in WWII - and yes, I know Lee wasn't Japanese but stoopid Americans hated ANY Asian back then). This is not a knock on Tyson or black men (or anyone).

                                                                                                                                                                                    Finally, when Lee was actually kicking ass, it was the late fifties/early sixties. Remember the Zapruder film (JFK assassination)? Remember how shitty that looks? This is the quality of any films we would have left of Lee fighting, and some do exist of Lee in competitions with other Chinese Masters.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Y'all have taken too many blows to the head in the ring.
                                                                                                                                                                                    I prefer blows to the cock.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Cock...ring...hmmm...

                                                                                                                                                                                    Finally, what are we talking here, fight in a ring with a ref or a street fight in a dark alley? And with or without nunchuks? Man I ain't interested if there ain't no nunchuks!!
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Relentless
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #196
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                                        The bunny on the right is definitely heavier... so that automatically makes it a 5-1 favorite... even if the other bunny has a ton more skill


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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #197
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                                                                                            Well it was called "Pizza Roll" by Carlson Gracie back in the day, but it's taken on a different name now with "Shoulder Of Justice". A 105lb Girl Chokes Out a 220lb Man...with ONE ARM! (Rob Kahn Seminar) - YouTube

                                                                                                                                                                                            It's a loving type of move, remind me to show you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #198
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                                                Now here's a picture I can get behind! (Tho the imagery of me getting behind a couple of bunnies is rather troublesome.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                Make bunnies, not War (Machine?).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2011
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Awesome. Thanks for that.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    yes I missed a decade of watching fights in the 90-s because there was war in my 3rd world shit hole and after that the dial up modem net was good for downloading one jpeg every 2 min

                                                                                                                                                                                                    look there are only 2 fighters to win in the absolute ADCC under 200lb glavao and estima...the other 10 champs are heavy or super heavy...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                                                                                                                                                                                                    as for the BJJ world championships maybe 2-3 fighters have won the absolute that are under 200lb in the last 18 years...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    World Jiu-Jitsu Championship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                                                                                                                                                                                                    this is hard evidence that weight matters a lot even in BJJ let alone no-gi...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    royce competed last time at 66kg thats a whopping 7 categories difference I easily go to 100+...he would humiliate me in GI...it would be an honour for me to be considered as a GI sparring partner and I would video tape my humiliation and watch in pride at home...but I would win a shameful victory by sheer brute force in no gi...no 66kg man in the world can bend my hand because I will not stand idly by, I am a strong, slippery, hyper active mother fucker who has 10 years BJJ experience...its simply not going to happen in grappling from a guy 7 categories under me in weight...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    roger gracie on the other hand could beat me if he was shot in both legs

                                                                                                                                                                                                    cyborg could beat me with a sword poking though his body LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                                    tyson would KO me even today in his shape

                                                                                                                                                                                                    but royce would lose in grappling I hate to admit it he is one of my heroes and I would not do it to him, I would fight technically and lose miserably...
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                                                                                                        ...and this is where I will post a video of myself in action or mention the school I am with or any competitions I have won
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #Waiting


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