Epoch adds Paypal for US customers

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  • OY
    Industry Pioneer
    • Oct 2002
    • 5401

    #46
    Originally posted by Rand
    We've operated a pilot program in the EU for the past year and we had such success that we were able to expand into other markets.

    PayPal still does not allow individual accounts to accept payments in this merchant category code. But through our agreement with them we can offer this option as part of our suite of payment types.

    We are very excited about the new possibilities this expansion presents.
    Excellent news Rand & Co!!
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    • Rand
      Industry Vet
      • Jan 2002
      • 2663

      #47
      Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
      There it is! Right in the center. Wow looks great!

      Sweet! Thanks for the update!
      -- Rand


      Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

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      • TubeSubmitters
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2006
        • 2683

        #48
        Originally posted by Rand
        PayPal, as with all of the alternative international payment types we offer, is for Epoch clients who accept Visa and Mastercard. None of the alternative payment options we offer is available à la carte.
        Does one need to accept both Visa and Mastercard or is it possible to just accept Visa and still be able to use Paypal?
        Buying sites with income, paying by paxum, hit me up

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        • Robbie
          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
          • Aug 2002
          • 20960

          #49
          I'm just kinda shocked that Epoch doesn't want my business. Especially since I just looked at Epoch's site and see they are charging 15% rates!!!! Holy shit!
          That's 15% off of the Paypal sales I could be making straight into their pockets...I guess it just isn't worth it to them.
          -Robbie
          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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          • TubeSubmitters
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2006
            • 2683

            #50
            Robbie didn't you comprehend Rands reply to you?
            They are unable to provide paypal only.
            "through our agreement with PAYPAL we can offer this option as PART of our suite of payment types. "
            Buying sites with income, paying by paxum, hit me up

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            • Zuzana Designs
              All Your Design Needs
              • Feb 2005
              • 20896

              #51
              Fantastic news from Epoch! Rand I'm going to send you an email over the weekend with a few ideas I want to talk to you about.

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              • Brent 3dSexCash
                Octopus Anime
                • Sep 2007
                • 1064

                #52
                Originally posted by Robbie
                I'm just kinda shocked that Epoch doesn't want my business. Especially since I just looked at Epoch's site and see they are charging 15% rates!!!! Holy shit!
                That's 15% off of the Paypal sales I could be making straight into their pockets...I guess it just isn't worth it to them.

                You quoted earlier a post that answered this. It is part of the terms Paypal made them agree to.

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                • Robbie
                  Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 20960

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Brent 3dSexCash
                  You quoted earlier a post that answered this. It is part of the terms Paypal made them agree to.
                  So Paypal made them agree that they could only allow their customers to use Paypal if they also used Visa and Mastercard through Epoch?

                  Not only doesn't that make any sense...but I doubt it would even be a legal agreement.
                  I don't think Paypal would give two shits if someone was a client of Epoch and used MC or Visa. Why on Earth would that even be of any interest to Paypal.

                  I'd say it's just a business decision by Epoch. No big deal. It's their company. And I'm sure at 15% processing fees that they want their customers to use them in every way.
                  Makes sense.

                  Just seems like they would also want to grab the extra business from people who already have their own merchant accounts and don't need their credit card processing.
                  -Robbie
                  ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                  • adultchatpay
                    Let's Make Money
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 8785

                    #54
                    Pretty awesome, this means sale will sky rocket for epoch people.

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                    • F-U-Jimmy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 6853

                      #55
                      IMHO i think PayPal only had issues with porn membership sites, as they have been processing porn on E-Bay for years. Look under ADULT on e-bay to see what i mean. Sending out physical items such as DVD's Pictures and dildo's is way less of a chargeback risk
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                      • Brent 3dSexCash
                        Octopus Anime
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1064

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Robbie
                        So Paypal made them agree that they could only allow their customers to use Paypal if they also used Visa and Mastercard through Epoch?

                        Not only doesn't that make any sense...but I doubt it would even be a legal agreement.
                        I don't think Paypal would give two shits if someone was a client of Epoch and used MC or Visa. Why on Earth would that even be of any interest to Paypal.

                        I'd say it's just a business decision by Epoch. No big deal. It's their company. And I'm sure at 15% processing fees that they want their customers to use them in every way.
                        Makes sense.

                        Just seems like they would also want to grab the extra business from people who already have their own merchant accounts and don't need their credit card processing.

                        I think it could be a credibility thing. Paypal can to some degree assume the due diligence has already been done on the sites Epoch is processing for. For example, anytime you launch a new site on Epoch or CCBILL, Visa has its own review process of the new site, which is why it takes 20 days sometimes to get all the payment options listed on the checkout page. If you were only able to list Paypal as an option (even with a merchant account), there would be no real consistent vetting process of the content you were selling.

                        Also, I am sure Paypal took into account how much volume Epoch does , their track record of charge backs, etc. I am sure getting Paypal on board was a long process with all kinds of terms. Notice how they started with the EU first and then moved to the USA? I wouldn't be surprised if the EU was the test phase to see how it did. If it was easy to get Paypal on board, one would assume CCBILL and many others would all have this option.

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                        • Fat Panda
                          Porn is Dead. Move along.
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 13296

                          #57
                          ND sales through the roof with PP option!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                          Thanks Epoch!

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                          • SmutGiant
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4896

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Rand
                            We've operated a pilot program in the EU for the past year and we had such success that we were able to expand into other markets.

                            PayPal still does not allow individual accounts to accept payments in this merchant category code. But through our agreement with them we can offer this option as part of our suite of payment types.

                            We are very excited about the new possibilities this expansion presents.
                            Great job guys

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                            • Tommydiv
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 358

                              #59
                              Amazing news

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                              • NemesisEnforcer
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2122

                                #60
                                Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
                                IMHO i think PayPal only had issues with porn membership sites, as they have been processing porn on E-Bay for years. Look under ADULT on e-bay to see what i mean. Sending out physical items such as DVD's Pictures and dildo's is way less of a chargeback risk
                                Yes, I use PayPal for adult DVDs so does adultdvdempire and other companies. Never had a problem doing so.
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