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  • RummyBoy
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    • Dec 2009
    • 2157
    #1

    News GMail Blocked In China

    Looks like you all knew this but it hasn't caught fire in here..... yet its a huge, big deal. China is by many metrics now the most important economy in the world. This is obviously going to force a lot of people to switch away from Gmail - those who need to connect with China. A lot of my friends over there use Gmail and they'll have to switch.

    I don't exactly blame China for this though - in light of Hong Kong this year and the upcoming 25th anniversary of Tianamen Square. The fact is that China's economy is kind of self contained now, they almost have everything they need within their own borders.

    Gmail blocked in China | Reuters
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    • PaperstreetWinston
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      • Jan 2014
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      #2
      Originally posted by RummyBoy
      they almost have everything they need within their own borders.
      Pretty much. Not enough to go around for everyone everytime (like what country does eh?), but its there.
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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184
          #3
          I've never heard the expression "china is the most important economy in the world". WHere would I learn more about that?

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            • RummyBoy
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              • Dec 2009
              • 2157
              #4
              Originally posted by dyna mo
              I've never heard the expression "china is the most important economy in the world".
              It's pretty close to what I said above in my opening post. China is like a large % of global GDP but it matters a lot in a whole host of other ways. It is the factory of the world and is the largest consumer of industrial commodities amongst many other things.

              You could search economics sites, read Bloomberg and so on... China stories pretty much dominate.

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                    • oppoten
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                      • Nov 2007
                      • 4793
                      #6
                      "I think the government is just trying to further eliminate Google's presence in China and even weaken its market overseas," said a member of GreatFire.org, who uses a pseudonym.
                      Go China!

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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68184
                          #7
                          Originally posted by RummyBoy
                          Nor me but it's pretty close to what I said above in my opening post.
                          that's where I got the expression from, from waht you said above. googling it came up with nada, so I asked.

                          it doesn't seem to me that china wants to be a self-contained economy, reading that article it appears quite a few chinese businesses rely on gmail.

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                            • dyna mo
                              just a fucking jerk
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184
                              #8
                              Originally posted by RummyBoy
                              It's pretty close to what I said above in my opening post. China is like a large % of global GDP but it matters a lot in a whole host of other ways. It is the factory of the world and is the largest consumer of industrial commodities amongst many other things.

                              You could search economics sites, read Bloomberg and so on... China stories pretty much dominate.
                              I'm current on china.

                              I understand it's one of the world's powerful economies.


                              You mentioned specifically that it's THE most important, a phrase I've never heard mentioned, thus my inquiry to learn more about it.

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                                • Bladewire
                                  StraightBro
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 56228
                                  #9
                                  The comment on that article from Five Mao was pretty on spot with a couple interesting facts:

                                  "Very true..but they ban foreign companies only after stealing their technology then proceed to produce fakes, crap ones at that. Fake BMW, fake Mercedes, fake electronics, fake clothing, fake money, fake people who have a tendency to acquire fake airs and graces. The list goes on. Last year, Bank of China gold which was sold to the public, eventually got green mould. Take a guess. Got it! It was fake gold. Issued by the state bank.

                                  Oh watch out for that green tea you think is so good for you. Another guess? Yup! Fake tea. Its coloured paper. No, unfortunately this is not a joke although I wish it were."


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                                    • RummyBoy
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                                      • Dec 2009
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                      You mentioned specifically that it's THE most important, a phrase I've never heard mentioned, thus my inquiry to learn more about it.
                                      Well, I said: "China is by many metrics now the most important economy in the world." It's not largest by GDP but its cracking all sorts of records and it has been driving global growth last few years with very low debt so (in some ways) it is the most important.

                                      Largest economy by PPP (Purchasing Power Parity):

                                      China’s leap forward: overtaking the US as world’s biggest economy | FT Data

                                      It’s official: America is now No. 2 - MarketWatch

                                      Fastest Growing Economy (last few yrs):

                                      China May Be Slowing, But Still Fastest Growing Economy On Earth - Forbes

                                      Largest Mobile Phone Market (By Revenue):

                                      China Will Overtake United States as World's Largest Mobile Phone Market by REVENUE in 2014

                                      Largest Automobile Market (By Revenue):

                                      China Extends Lead As World?s Largest Car Market By Sales; GM, Ford China Deliveries Up By Double Digits

                                      Largest Market In Luxury Goods Sales:

                                      http://www.bain.com/publications/art...ring-2014.aspx

                                      Largest Consumer of Gold:

                                      http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...89261432501856

                                      Largest Foreign Currency Reserves:

                                      http://dailysignal.com/2014/06/20/ch...lion-counting/

                                      Largest Energy Consumer:

                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_consumption

                                      Largest and Fastest Growing Consumer of Commodities:

                                      http://dailyreckoning.com/commodities/

                                      Largest Manufacturing Economy:

                                      http://news.thomasnet.com/imt/2013/0...t-manufacturer

                                      Many of China's company's are largest in their class, Like Huawei and Xiaomi is headed in that direction.

                                      China has around 4 trillion FCR and no other creditor nation has even 1 trillion (a quarter of that). There are just tens and tens of metrics and records that China is reaching the top and I've missed many of them but here's a basic easy test you can do:

                                      Lift objects in your bedroom and if you see "Made In China" it points to China's manufacturing prowess - many western goods are made in China. It is impossible to avoid contributing to China's growth because most of our stuff is made there. Most walmart sells us China made goods and iPhones used to be made there (I think still are).

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                                        • MaDalton
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                                          • Feb 2004
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                                          #11
                                          as a german i am upset they passed us as largest export nation - was just a matter of time though

                                          but most german car manufacturers - mainly Volkswagen with VW/Audi/Skoda/Porsche - nowadays concentrate their growth on the chinese market
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                                            • dillfly2000
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                                              • Mar 2012
                                              • 2209
                                              #12
                                              I look under my coffee mug, Made in China

                                              I look at my shoe horn, Made in China

                                              I look at my fine China, Made in England
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                                                • RummyBoy
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                                                  • Dec 2009
                                                  • 2157
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                  but most german car manufacturers - mainly Volkswagen with VW/Audi/Skoda/Porsche - nowadays concentrate their growth on the chinese market
                                                  Don't worry, we all know German cars are by far the best...

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                                                    • mineistaken
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                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                      • 29656
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                      as a german i am upset they passed us as largest export nation - was just a matter of time though

                                                      but most german car manufacturers - mainly Volkswagen with VW/Audi/Skoda/Porsche - nowadays concentrate their growth on the chinese market
                                                      I though Skoda was Czech

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                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                          • 39861
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                          I though Skoda was Czech
                                                          ahhh - it's you again

                                                          they are a 100% Volkswagen daughter though - but i am sure you knew that
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                                                            • fappingJack
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                                                              • Dec 2014
                                                              • 2172
                                                              #16
                                                              its starting all over again.

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                                                                • Mutt
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                  • 34431
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Congrats to us, in return for cheap TV's, clothing and every other product that is manufactured we gave a fascist country that has enslaved 1.375 Billion people our technology, our money, our land, our debt transforming them into a global economic and military superpower.

                                                                  Things should turn out well for us.

                                                                  Hmmm - just looked it up, I thought we owed them a lot more money than we actually do, our debt to China is 1.3 trillion. I wonder what happens when things go bad and they want their money back.

                                                                  I'm pretty sure mankind only has about 100 years left on this planet.
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                                                                    • RummyBoy
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                                                                      • Dec 2009
                                                                      • 2157
                                                                      #18
                                                                      fascist country that has enslaved 1.375 Billion people
                                                                      That's not even remotely accurate.... have you ever been to China?

                                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                      I'm pretty sure mankind only has about 100 years left on this planet.
                                                                      So because China fast gaining on the US, the world is ending?

                                                                      It's almost baked in the cake that China will overtake the US in GDP, probably within the next 15 years at current rates but average salaries (GDP Per Capita) will, absent some sort of crisis, take decades to equal the US so will actual total personal wealth take even much longer to catch up.

                                                                      For around 150 years UK was the superpower and the world reserve currency was UK Pound. Around 1920 onwards, the US started to take over from there. Now it's China that's accelerating big time and the next century belongs to China. That said, the US is not going away anytime soon - it will always be one of the largest and most powerful country/economy in the world and probably not fall out of the top 3 in your lifetime.

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                                                                        • Joshua G
                                                                          dumb libs love censorship
                                                                          • Jul 2008
                                                                          • 8198
                                                                          #19
                                                                          i hope someday to bounce heavy chinese bosom.

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                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                              • 68184
                                                                              #20
                                                                              i can't find a single link via google that mentions anything about china being the most important economy in the world. in fact, the USA is still considered the most POWERFUL economy on the planet, according to expert economists.

                                                                              I won't bother getting into the china self-contained economy misstatement.

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                                                                                • mineistaken
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                                                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                                                  • 29656
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                  ahhh - it's you again

                                                                                  they are a 100% Volkswagen daughter though - but i am sure you knew that
                                                                                  I genuinely thought that Skodas are being made (what is the point for VW to buy them and move manufactoring to more expensive Germany) in CZ, hence not adding to German export number, but rather adding to CZ export numbers.

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                                                                                    • MaDalton
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                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                      • 39861
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                                      I genuinely thought that Skodas are being made (what is the point for VW to buy them and move manufactoring to more expensive Germany) in CZ, hence not adding to German export number, but rather adding to CZ export numbers.
                                                                                      Of course they are made in CZ (and China), they just belong 100% to Volkswagen. Like Seat, Bugatti, Ducati and a few more.
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                                                                                        • Phoenix
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                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                          • 35475
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          This is nothing new. They periodically block google annd gmail also. Pretty much everyone in China is skilled with the use of vpns there are many free ones there.
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                                                                                            • mineistaken
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                                                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                                                              • 29656
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                              This is nothing new. They periodically block google annd gmail also. Pretty much everyone in China is skilled with the use of vpns there are many free ones there.
                                                                                              But no much point of choosing gmail instead of any other email provider? I mean it is stil huge inconvenience compared to free access.

                                                                                              What about yahoo mail? outlook mail? etc?

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                                                                                                • Phoenix
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                  • 35475
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                                                  But no much point of choosing gmail instead of any other email provider? I mean it is stil huge inconvenience compared to free access.

                                                                                                  What about yahoo mail? outlook mail? etc?
                                                                                                  I do not think they use yahoo or outlook..i don't know any that do anyway.
                                                                                                  they also have their own stuff....free emails....their own google...baidu..etc

                                                                                                  their own facebook..etc etc
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                                                                                                    • TrafficGoldmine
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by dillfly2000
                                                                                                      I look under my coffee mug, Made in China

                                                                                                      I look at my shoe horn, Made in China

                                                                                                      I look at my fine China, Made in England


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                                                                                                        • seeandsee
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                                                                                                          #27
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                                                                                                            • ZeroHero
                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                              • Nov 2007
                                                                                                              • 15336
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Joshua G
                                                                                                              i hope someday to bounce heavy chinese bosom.

                                                                                                              Amin brotha

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                                                                                                                • nekrom
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                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                  • 921
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Chinese people for the most part don't give 2 shits about using western services. From the Gov perspective, anything outside China that is a threat to profit margins is blocked or slowed to a fucking crawl, end off.

                                                                                                                  For email they use QQ or 163.com. Search they use Baidu. Social media they use Weixin (Wechat) or Weibo. Videos they use Youku or Tudou. Shopping they use Taobao or JD.com. Taxis they block Uber and support local Didi Dache.

                                                                                                                  China blocks international sites because they want locals to use domestic state owned/run/backed products. Pretty simple really and these day's nothing to do with communism.
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                                                                                                                    • freecartoonporn
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                                                                                                                      hope they dont ban all incoming mails from @gmail.com
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                                                                                                                        • roboticblowjob
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                                                                                                                          • May 2009
                                                                                                                          • 107
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I've lived in China for the last 7 years, this is not news at all. Gmail has actually been blocked here for at least 2-3 years. They just kinda more officially blocked it recently. Everyone still uses gmail with a vpn.
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                                                                                                                            • Phoenix
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                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                              • 35475
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by nekrom
                                                                                                                              Chinese people for the most part don't give 2 shits about using western services. From the Gov perspective, anything outside China that is a threat to profit margins is blocked or slowed to a fucking crawl, end off.

                                                                                                                              For email they use QQ or 163.com. Search they use Baidu. Social media they use Weixin (Wechat) or Weibo. Videos they use Youku or Tudou. Shopping they use Taobao or JD.com. Taxis they block Uber and support local Didi Dache.

                                                                                                                              China blocks international sites because they want locals to use domestic state owned/run/backed products. Pretty simple really and these day's nothing to do with communism.
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                                                                                                                                • RummyBoy
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2009
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                  i can't find a single link via google that mentions anything about china being the most important economy in the world.
                                                                                                                                  It sounds like you're having a problem facing facts.

                                                                                                                                  As I re-iterated, I said: "China is by many metrics now the most important economy in the world" ie by many metrics but not all. For example, it is the most important economy in the world for industrial commodities - why? Because they consume the most. Is it the most important economy for the global automotive industry. Why? Because the largest market is in China and so on.

                                                                                                                                  Hamish McRae: By some calculations, China is already the most important economy in the world - Hamish McRae - Business Comment - The Independent

                                                                                                                                  Jim O'Neill: China Will Contribute More To Global Growth This Decade Than The US And Europe Combined - Business Insider

                                                                                                                                  China is the most important economy not US | MARC FABER BLOG

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                                                                                                                                    • DamageX
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                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 14293
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                      i can't find a single link via google that mentions anything about china being the most important economy in the world.
                                                                                                                                      He didn't say it's the most important. He said that it is by many metrics. Ergo not all, thus obviously not making it the most important economy in the world overall. But you can use the same argument for say Brazil, Russia, Germany and more. It all depends on what metrics you choose to look at.
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                                                                                                                                        • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 19634
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by nekrom
                                                                                                                                          Chinese people for the most part don't give 2 shits about using western services. From the Gov perspective, anything outside China that is a threat to profit margins is blocked or slowed to a fucking crawl, end off.

                                                                                                                                          For email they use QQ or 163.com. Search they use Baidu. Social media they use Weixin (Wechat) or Weibo. Videos they use Youku or Tudou. Shopping they use Taobao or JD.com. Taxis they block Uber and support local Didi Dache.

                                                                                                                                          China blocks international sites because they want locals to use domestic state owned/run/backed products. Pretty simple really and these day's nothing to do with communism.
                                                                                                                                          wanting or should i say forcing people to use STATE OWNED products would appear to have a lot to do with communism. or controlism.
                                                                                                                                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                            • RummyBoy
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                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2009
                                                                                                                                              • 2157
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                              wanting or should i say forcing people to use STATE OWNED products would appear to have a lot to do with communism. or controlism.
                                                                                                                                              It's neither communism nor controlism but it might be regarded as a form of protectionism - it depends on the reason why it is being employed.

                                                                                                                                              However, its worth noting that many countries use methods which could be considered similar even in the USA. In a sense, FATCA (Foreign Accounts Tax Compliance Act) makes it difficult for Americans to go with non-US banks. The UIGEA (Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act) forces Americans to use land based casinos for their gaming needs. The list goes on and on.....

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                                                                                                                                                • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                  • 29032
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                                                                                                  The comment on that article from Five Mao was pretty on spot with a couple interesting facts:

                                                                                                                                                  "Very true..but they ban foreign companies only after stealing their technology then proceed to produce fakes, crap ones at that. Fake BMW, fake Mercedes, fake electronics, fake clothing, fake money, fake people who have a tendency to acquire fake airs and graces. The list goes on. Last year, Bank of China gold which was sold to the public, eventually got green mould. Take a guess. Got it! It was fake gold. Issued by the state bank.

                                                                                                                                                  Oh watch out for that green tea you think is so good for you. Another guess? Yup! Fake tea. Its coloured paper. No, unfortunately this is not a joke although I wish it were."
                                                                                                                                                  Most smart people know this about China...and also know it's not sustainable. It's a country trying to be something it can't be, and it'll catch up with them.

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                                                                                                                                                    • klinton
                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 8766
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      whoooa they dont like PRISM and prefer their own spying methods ? how dare they

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                                                                                                                                                        • RummyBoy
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                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2009
                                                                                                                                                          • 2157
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                                                                                          whoooa they dont like PRISM and prefer their own spying methods ? how dare they
                                                                                                                                                          Exactly. Well they don't like TEMPORA either.... I remember QQ having a nice little struggle with GCHQ in recent times but i'll keep that one to myself lest they decide im disposable

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                                                                                                                                                            • RummyBoy
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                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2009
                                                                                                                                                              • 2157
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                                              Most smart people know this about China...
                                                                                                                                                              The smart people that know about China are generally those that have been to China.

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