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  • ADL Colin
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    • Feb 2001
    • 11929

    #1

    Record high food prices

    fucking farmers making record profits.

    TAX THE FARMERS!


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  • F-U-Jimmy
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    • Apr 2006
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    #2
    Originally posted by ADL Colin
    fucking farmers making record profits.

    TAX THE FARMERS!
    A lot of this has to do with transport costs going up and the lack of food crops due to government incentives to grow ethanol crops
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    • Mutt
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      • Sep 2002
      • 34431

      #3
      i'd rather be gouged by farmers than oil companies and fucking Arabs - farmers work, Arabs do nothing but cause shit and get away with it because of dumb luck sitting on top of oil.

      i can choose to grow some of my own food or shop around for it from small farmers markets.
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      • thunder99
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        • Nov 2003
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        #4
        Originally posted by ADL Colin
        fucking farmers making record profits.

        TAX THE FARMERS!
        Farmers incomes have actually been falling in the last couple of years. Maybe the middle man is making more, but the farmer certainly isn't
        yeah, yeah

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        • geedub
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          • Jun 2005
          • 3489

          #5
          Originally posted by ADL Colin
          fucking farmers making record profits.

          TAX THE FARMERS!
          you are a dick.
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          • ADL Colin
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            • Feb 2001
            • 11929

            #6
            Originally posted by thunder99
            Farmers incomes have actually been falling in the last couple of years. Maybe the middle man is making more, but the farmer certainly isn't
            What's your source? I'd like to see the opposite side of the story.

            "American farmers are enjoying record incomes"
            http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/wa...24farm.html?hp

            Also, the USDA gives this:
            http://www.ers.usda.gov/Features/FarmIncome/
            "In 2008, average farm household income is projected to be $89,434, up 6.3 percent from 2007 and 19.2 percent above the 5-year average of 2002-06. Average off-farm income of $75,805 in 2008, up 4.6 percent from 2007, accounts for nearly 85 percent of the average farm operator household's income."


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            • TyroneGoldberg
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              • Sep 2007
              • 1081

              #7
              I'm sure all their equipment runs on diesel and last time I checked diesel was around 5 bucks a gallon. when do you believe what's written in the newspaper. if they're making some profit more power to them. they sure deserve it

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              • sniperwolf
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                • Mar 2005
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                #8
                Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
                A lot of this has to do with transport costs going up and the lack of food crops due to government incentives to grow ethanol crops
                I have to agree!

                Originally posted by thunder99
                Farmers incomes have actually been falling in the last couple of years. Maybe the middle man is making more, but the farmer certainly isn't
                That's fact!
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                • ADL Colin
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                  • Feb 2001
                  • 11929

                  #9
                  Originally posted by geedub
                  you are a dick.
                  A. You think I'm a dick because you didn't get my joke and think that oil companies should be taxed for "windfall profits"?

                  B. You think I'm a dick because you did get my joke but you are "anti-farming community"?

                  C. This is your part-time job. You own a farm in Nebraska and are frightened that your ethanol subsidies might disappear

                  D. You are just fucking with me

                  E. None of the above


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                  • ADL Colin
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                    • Feb 2001
                    • 11929

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TyroneGoldberg
                    I'm sure all their equipment runs on diesel and last time I checked diesel was around 5 bucks a gallon. when do you believe what's written in the newspaper. if they're making some profit more power to them. they sure deserve it
                    Yeah, but ...

                    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CN/M
                    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CW/M
                    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/SB/M


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                    • ADL Colin
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 11929

                      #11
                      "The nation's farmers, who raise everything from cows to cucumbers, saw their average household income climb about 7 percent last year to more than $83,000. But in grain-rich states, the results were dramatically higher. In Minnesota alone, the median income for crop farmers soared 80 percent to $95,000."

                      http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080527/...lation_winners

                      Hell, these days corn is energy for autos too.


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                      • nosey
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                        • Feb 2003
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                        #12
                        very expensive indeed

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                        • Sosa
                          In Tushy Land
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 40149

                          #13
                          farmers work hard as fuck. They deserve it

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                          • Mutt
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                            • Sep 2002
                            • 34431

                            #14
                            how many family type farms are there left anyway? most i bet are owned by big corporations.
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                            • ADL Colin
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                              • Feb 2001
                              • 11929

                              #15
                              Just across the wire (July 9) ... SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Corn futures rose on Monday to a record high for a third consecutive session

                              Man, popcorn is going to be more than $4.00/gallon soon!


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                              • ADL Colin
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                                • Feb 2001
                                • 11929

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                how many family type farms are there left anyway? most i bet are owned by big corporations.
                                Still mostly family. I looked it up earlier today wondering the same thing

                                http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/EIB12/EIB12c.pdf?


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                                • Mr Pheer
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                                  • Dec 2002
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                  What's your source? I'd like to see the opposite side of the story.

                                  "American farmers are enjoying record incomes"
                                  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/wa...24farm.html?hp

                                  Also, the USDA gives this:
                                  http://www.ers.usda.gov/Features/FarmIncome/
                                  "In 2008, average farm household income is projected to be $89,434, up 6.3 percent from 2007 and 19.2 percent above the 5-year average of 2002-06. Average off-farm income of $75,805 in 2008, up 4.6 percent from 2007, accounts for nearly 85 percent of the average farm operator household's income."
                                  thats great because we all know it doesnt cost a single dime to run a farm

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                                  • ADL Colin
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                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 11929

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                    thats great because we all know it doesnt cost a single dime to run a farm
                                    Net cash income is up about 10%

                                    Just like the oil companies. Even though they have higher expenses many agricultural products are selling at 3 to 4 times what they were just a few years ago. An increase that has way more than overcompensated for the higher cost of doing business.
                                    Last edited by ADL Colin; 06-09-2008, 10:42 AM.


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                                    • thunder99
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                                      • Nov 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                      What's your source? I'd like to see the opposite side of the story.

                                      "American farmers are enjoying record incomes"
                                      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/wa...24farm.html?hp

                                      Also, the USDA gives this:
                                      http://www.ers.usda.gov/Features/FarmIncome/
                                      "In 2008, average farm household income is projected to be $89,434, up 6.3 percent from 2007 and 19.2 percent above the 5-year average of 2002-06. Average off-farm income of $75,805 in 2008, up 4.6 percent from 2007, accounts for nearly 85 percent of the average farm operator household's income."
                                      I don't know for sure what the situation in the US is like, but I do know that a European farmer was getting more for a litre of milk 10 years than he is today. The fact the 85% of income for US farmers, comes from off-farm activities would suggest that US farmers have also had to look for alternatives to make a living.

                                      Accusing them of profiteering from the global rise in food prices is a bit unfair. By far the largest cut of the milk that you drink and the fruit and veg that you eat goes to the supermarkets.

                                      Another important point is, farming can be hit and miss. I've seen farmers have a bumper year one year only to see every bit of that profit wiped out the following year. Most industries can plan their projected incomes for a couple of years in advance, but farmers dont have that luxury, bad weather, disease, sickness can totally knock them out for a couple of years.
                                      yeah, yeah

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                                      • thunder99
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                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 503

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                        Net cash income is up about 10%

                                        Just like the oil companies. Even though they have higher expenses many agricultural products are selling at 3 to 4 times what they were just a few years ago. An increase that has way more than overcompensated for the higher cost of doing business.
                                        And farmers aren't selling 3 to 4 times what they were selling before, that's part of the problem. The food volumes on the world market haven't increased that much, but as countries like India and China become wealthier they are buying more food, so there's less to go around.

                                        But an acre of land can still only produce the same amount of crops that it produced 10 years ago.
                                        yeah, yeah

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                                        • tranza
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                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 57559

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sniperwolf
                                          I have to agree!



                                          That's fact!
                                          Yeah I agree!
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                                          • ADL Colin
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                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 11929

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by thunder99
                                            I don't know for sure what the situation in the US is like, but I do know that a European farmer was getting more for a litre of milk 10 years than he is today.
                                            The US government sets a minimum price that must be paid to farmers for milk. Weird, huh?


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                                            • TheSenator
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                                              • Feb 2003
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                                              #23
                                              I thought the farms are corporate owned nowadays.
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                                              • ADL Colin
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                                                • Feb 2001
                                                • 11929

                                                #24
                                                It's pretty obvious that the Bilderberg meeting is about fixing world food prices. No doubt the friends of those in high places are making immense profits from higher corn, wheat and
                                                rice. Speaking of Rice, blame Bush! As soon as Bush is outta office your grocery bill will come crashing down.


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                                                • thunder99
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                                                  • Nov 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                                  The US government sets a minimum price that must be paid to farmers for milk. Weird, huh?

                                                  Didnt know that, any idea how much it is?
                                                  yeah, yeah

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                                                  • DateDoc
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                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 14243

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                                    Just across the wire (July 9) ... SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Corn futures rose on Monday to a record high for a third consecutive session

                                                    Man, popcorn is going to be more than $4.00/gallon soon!

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                                                    • ADL Colin
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                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                      • 11929

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by thunder99
                                                      Didnt know that, any idea how much it is?
                                                      I don't have a clue. I think it is a depression era law that is still on the books and still in use.


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                                                      • undersoul
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                                                        • Sep 2006
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                                                        #28
                                                        dude everything has gone through the roof. just the way it is these days. people have to adjust.
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                                                        • payd2purv
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                                                          • Jan 2008
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                                          fucking farmers making record profits.

                                                          TAX THE FARMERS!
                                                          You are joking right?

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                                                          • notoldschool
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                                                            • Aug 2007
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                                                            #30
                                                            I dont really care how much profit a farmer makes but I have noticed that groceries are almost double what they cost not too long ago.
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                                                            • ADL Colin
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                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                              • 11929

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by payd2purv
                                                              You are joking right?
                                                              ...... yes.


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