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  • Relentless
    www.EngineFood.com
    • Aug 2006
    • 5697

    #61
    Completely free 'paysites' are coming. All of the content and UI you are used to seeing for 29.99 now offered for 0.00 without any tricks, scams or restrictions. Not pirated. Not old junk. Real full length HD videos absolutely free.


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    • Paul&John
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2005
      • 8643

      #62
      Originally posted by Relentless
      Completely free 'paysites' are coming. All of the content and UI you are used to seeing for 29.99 now offered for 0.00 without any tricks, scams or restrictions. Not pirated. Not old junk. Real full length HD videos absolutely free.
      That's nice, but how do you make money? Upsells for cams/dating won't cut it if you want to present high quality (exlusive/semi-exlusive) content.
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      • DamageX
        Marketing & Strategy
        • Jun 2001
        • 14293

        #63
        Originally posted by Paul&John
        That's nice, but how do you make money? Upsells for cams/dating won't cut it if you want to present high quality (exlusive/semi-exlusive) content.
        Upsell toilet paper. Everybody shits.
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        • fuzebox
          making it rain
          • Oct 2003
          • 22351

          #64
          Originally posted by DamageX
          So by giving away the highest quality, what do you see them selling? 'Cause selling ads for dating sites ain't gonna fly much longer. The dating sites' days as we know them are numbered. It's only a matter of time before they get cleaned up and fined en-masse. At which point they'll likely no longer afford to pay the kind of commissions they're paying out these days
          Can't comment on monetization, just what I see happening. The tube experience is way too clumsy right now. Beeg is probably the best free porn site I know of right now, and from experience the traffic clicks more than most tubes.

          I predicted the tube traffic bubble would burst a year ago, and instead the going ad rates have only gone up, and people are still making money on spots that I can't.

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          • The Porn Nerd
            Living The Dream
            • Jun 2009
            • 19784

            #65
            Originally posted by DamageX

            Yeah, good luck with that... One thing I learned many years ago is that you can never put the shit back into the horse. Progress always goes forward, nothing ever goes back to the way it used to be.



            So, bright minds of GFY, what's the next adult free site model, to lure massive traffic away from tubes?
            Two things here:

            1. YES we CAN go back to a semblance of how things used to be BUT it will take a lot of short-term pain to do so. The model we have is the New York Times. They opened their website for free then saw their sales plummet and realized that if they didn't do something QUICK they would be out of business in three years. The New York Times!

            So they bit the bullet and started - gasp! - CHARGING for their website/news again. What happened? The traffic to their website (where all the free news was) dropped like a stone and it took 18 months to get it back. But when it came back the NY Times was solvent again, even profitable. Could the same happen with Adult and tubes et al? Possibly.

            2. I do know the future of the free site model but why would I give it away for free here?
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            • Paul&John
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2005
              • 8643

              #66
              Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
              Two things here:

              1. YES we CAN go back to a semblance of how things used to be BUT it will take a lot of short-term pain to do so. The model we have is the New York Times. They opened their website for free then saw their sales plummet and realized that if they didn't do something QUICK they would be out of business in three years. The New York Times!

              So they bit the bullet and started - gasp! - CHARGING for their website/news again. What happened? The traffic to their website (where all the free news was) dropped like a stone and it took 18 months to get it back. But when it came back the NY Times was solvent again, even profitable. Could the same happen with Adult and tubes et al? Possibly.
              That's one property controlled by one company, where tubes are controlled by many around the world.. Yes in this example New York Times went back to a paid model, however not many followed as far as I know
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              • The Porn Nerd
                Living The Dream
                • Jun 2009
                • 19784

                #67
                Originally posted by Paul&John
                That's one property controlled by one company, where tubes are controlled by many around the world.. Yes in this example New York Times went back to a paid model, however not many followed as far as I know
                Well the Times proved people would still pay for news, so many news organizations began charging a fee. How many are 'profitable'? I do not know.
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                • LeRoy
                  Porn Pusher
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 13364

                  #68
                  PA's for tube submitters? Sponsors having to pay a monthly fee for tube their tube submissions. I could see that happening.
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                  • gebu
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 249

                    #69
                    Originally posted by LeRoy
                    PA's for tube submitters? Sponsors having to pay a monthly fee for tube their tube submissions. I could see that happening.
                    I think that is what they plan to do at cloud.xxx

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                    • DamageX
                      Marketing & Strategy
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 14293

                      #70
                      Originally posted by LeRoy
                      PA's for tube submitters? Sponsors having to pay a monthly fee for tube their tube submissions. I could see that happening.
                      That's what many TGP's used to do.
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                      • Paul&John
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 8643

                        #71
                        Originally posted by LeRoy
                        PA's for tube submitters? Sponsors having to pay a monthly fee for tube their tube submissions. I could see that happening.
                        It's already happening...
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                        • Paul
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 2637

                          #72
                          Originally posted by LeRoy
                          PA's for tube submitters? Sponsors having to pay a monthly fee for tube their tube submissions. I could see that happening.
                          I'm surprised it took so long for this to happen, never made sense to allow people to upload content for free when the tubes are paying for the bandwidth.

                          Although if I was a company the size of Mindgeek I'd just stop user uploads completely, create a micro payment system with integrated one click purchases and create a setup like clips4sale or Kinkbomb and then they could completely dictate terms to content producers.

                          "Don't like it? Tuff shit!"

                          I know content producers are trying to create an alliance so they have greater negotiating powers with the tubes, personally I think it's a ludicrous notion. The tubes have all the power, traffic is king. Producers may talk a good game about how content is Queen but we live in an age of increasing competition and lowering start up costs.

                          As the production of digital content increases the value of that content will continue to decline.

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                          • Paul&John
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 8643

                            #73
                            That's true, but the standard free market rules doesn't apply in this industry as much as in others, because the content isn't as comparable as regular goods. Where in real world company A and B sells furniture, then usually that one gets the most customers (survives) which sells it cheaper (if the quality is around the same). But with porn people are sometimes looking for a pornstar they like (they fall in love with) and not every site has content with that particular model..
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