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11-26-2014, 08:31 AM

So the last 2 days I've been jumping around from one news source to the other watching the events in Ferguson and I saw this:

CNN : Good overall coverage.

MSNBC : Very personal coverage.

Fox News with Shep Smith : Impressive coverage. Not just the hardware on that Star Ship Bridge: Just pretty good coverage.

Fox News with Sean Hannity: Hate, hate, hate. He completely hates Brown and the brown family. He thinks the cop was completely justified in shooting and talks as if the Brown family is out of control.
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11-26-2014, 08:38 AM

CNN is just stirring things up hoping for ratings/ad revenue.

What has really amazed me is not one black person on any of the channels except Fox has admitted Brown could have avoided being shot by simply not breaking the law in the first place. Not one person feels Brown is at fault in any way. Amazing.
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11-26-2014, 09:04 AM

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11-26-2014, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by MarkPrince

Fox News with Sean Hannity: Hate, hate, hate. He completely hates Brown and the brown family. He thinks the cop was completely justified in shooting and talks as if the Brown family is out of control.

Yeah so? He isn't wrong.
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11-26-2014, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by L-Pink

CNN is just stirring things up hoping for ratings/ad revenue.

What has really amazed me is not one black person on any of the channels except Fox has admitted Brown could have avoided being shot by simply not breaking the law in the first place. Not one person feels Brown is at fault in any way. Amazing.

Something I found very interesting last night on AC360, Cooper had Sunny Hostin, Mark Omeara and Jeffrey Toobin all on splitscreen and it was fascinating to watch how the 2 white guys were saying that after looking at all the evidence presented to the grand jury they thought that although the prosecutor would probably been able to get an indictment had he gone the normal route of presenting it to the grand jury he would have definitely lost at trial and Wilson would have been acquitted.

You could see Hostin, the black woman ex-federal prosecutor, was getting angrier and angrier at them for saying that, she was ignoring all the evidence and fixating on tiny inconsistent details like she was a defense attorney defending Michael Brown, you could see that her mind had been made up from the beginning that Wilson was a murderer and that his trial and conviction would have been inevitable with a different prosecutor.

It was a fascinating example of how this story is breaking down along racial lines, if you're black then Brown was an innocent victim of a obviously racist, blood-thirsty white cop and if you're not black then maybe there is some room for doubt.
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11-26-2014, 09:18 AM

it's beyond insane that people strive to tune into television that they dislike, not to mention watching multiple mainstream news channels.

get outside, go do something. wtf you care about ferguson missouri so much you have multiple bullshit channels going is beyond any human comprehension.
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11-26-2014, 10:20 AM

So Sean Hannity is completely right, yet you word it as he is in the wrong somehow? LOL.
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11-26-2014, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by MarkPrince

So the last 2 days I've been jumping around from one news source to the other watching the events in Ferguson and I saw this:

CNN : Good overall coverage.

MSNBC : Very personal coverage.

Fox News with Shep Smith : Impressive coverage. Not just the hardware on that Star Ship Bridge: Just pretty good coverage.

Fox News with Sean Hannity: Excellent, excellent, excellent. He does not believe Brown and the brown family. He thinks the cop was completely justified in shooting and talks as if the Brown family is out of control.

Fixed it for ya!

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11-26-2014, 10:52 AM

By the way what is "pretty good coverage" according to OP? Leaning towards anti cop and anti white tendencies? LOL.
Even 50/50 would not be good because it was not 50/50 situation, but a situation where cop had way more justification than thug. So "pretty good coverage" is the one that reflects that.
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11-26-2014, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by MarkPrince

Fox News with Sean Hannity: Hate, hate, hate. He completely hates Brown and the brown family. He thinks the cop was completely justified in shooting and talks as if the Brown family is out of control.

This is something different. I journalist looking at the facts only.

Thinks for this clip.

The media has been the absolute worst enemies of piece and unity.

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11-26-2014, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by L-Pink

What has really amazed me is not one black person on any of the channels except Fox has admitted Brown could have avoided being shot by simply not breaking the law in the first place. Not one person feels Brown is at fault in any way. Amazing.

This is one of those stories that will really polarize people I think. Of course Brown had just robbed a store and maybe the cop felt scared and threatened. But if you're the family, it's just got to be excruciating. Imagine how they feel. Their sun was shot multiple times, then left in the street for 4 hours, then hauled away in the back of an SUV (no ambulance), then the cop gets off... all this in a town with an all-white police department....

Originally posted by Xenophage

Yeah so? He isn't wrong.

I don't know if he's right or wrong... I was just noticing the amount of "hate" he seems to have. The video I posted is just one example - he seemed to be someone who was trying to defend himself by jabbing and prodding anyone who didn't agree with him. His face seemed more annoyed than I've seen in the past.. It was the first time I had watched his show in a while and I found how he was acting to be really interesting.

Originally posted by dyna mo

it's beyond insane that people strive to tune into television that they dislike, not to mention watching multiple mainstream news channels.

How could anyone, except you of course, expect to form an opinion from multiple sides without at least sampling those multiple sides?

Originally posted by dyna mo

get outside, go do something. wtf you care about ferguson missouri so much you have multiple bullshit channels going is beyond any human comprehension.

Because unlike you, I happen to care. I care about people, animals, and the environment. You care about yourself, yourself and yourself, and how good you make yourself feel by trashing others in a public forum from the confines of your moms basement. Good for you big fella... maybe try contributing to a thread instead of drive-by trolling it. Think you can do that big man?

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It was a fascinating example of how this story is breaking down along racial lines, if you're black then Brown was an innocent victim of a obviously racist, blood-thirsty white cop and if you're not black then maybe there is some room for doubt.

Or maybe thats not how the story breaks down, but instead its how the news presents the story? MSNBC's Maddow and Hayes present it as a person / personal / family issue, while Sharpton presents it is more of a black injustice issue. Fox's Hannity and another person who's name I forget seem to present it as "There' goes another black person bitching and moaning".

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By the way what is "pretty good coverage" according to OP? Leaning towards anti cop and anti white tendencies? LOL.

No. I was saying that on the Shep Smith show on Fox, the coverage was impressive. They had multiple cameras in multiple cities and Shep was running around from one giant video wall to the next showing what was going on. He did it all without personal commentary or opinion too. I hate Fox News but Shep's reporting of it seemed interesting.

It was Sean Hannity, who has always been an asshat, reporting I was commenting on.

Originally posted by mineistaken

Even 50/50 would not be good because it was not 50/50 situation, but a situation where cop had way more justification than thug. So "pretty good coverage" is the one that reflects that.

Agreed.

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11-26-2014, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by MarkPrince

Because unlike you, I happen to care. I care about people, animals, and the environment.

Agreed.

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********** cares so much about a black dude in ferguson that he tunes into multiple news channels for coverage and starts a thread about that, not about the dude, but about the opposite from his view biased news.

yeah that'll help. as if that makes any fucking sense.

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11-26-2014, 11:43 AM

maybe not being an idiot and stop watching those ridiculous news channels?

fact: News = negative energy.
So American 24h a day news is probably really unhealthy for you. I know i am exhausted after watching that unlimited drivel for more than 2 minutes.
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11-26-2014, 12:05 PM

CNN doesn't cover the news, they debate it. Let's put up four people with opposing views and have them slug it out. That's not news. I want you to report the news, not give me someone's opinion.

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11-26-2014, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by L-Pink

CNN is just stirring things up hoping for ratings/ad revenue.

What has really amazed me is not one black person on any of the channels except Fox has admitted Brown could have avoided being shot by simply not breaking the law in the first place. Not one person feels Brown is at fault in any way. Amazing.

Every street whore that ever got murdered by a john was in the same boat.
She could have avoided it by not being a street whore.
So why don't you go shit on the dead whores graves?
Because you sure have taken a big shit on this dead dude.

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11-26-2014, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Every street whore that ever got murdered by a john was in the same boat.
She could have avoided it by not being a street whore.
So why don't you go shit on the dead whores graves?
Because you sure have taken a big shit on this dead dude.

comparing hooking to robbing is like comparing apples with oranges though. Hooking is legal in a lot of countries, but i have yet to see a country where robbing is legal
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11-26-2014, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by nico-t

comparing hooking to robbing is like comparing apples with oranges though. Hooking is legal in a lot of countries, but i have yet to see a country where robbing is legal

How the fuck would you know that apples and oranges were different if they were never compared?

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11-26-2014, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

How the fuck would you know that apples and oranges were different if they were never compared?

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11-26-2014, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Every street whore that ever got murdered by a john was in the same boat.
She could have avoided it by not being a street whore.
So why don't you go shit on the dead whores graves?
Because you sure have taken a big shit on this dead dude.

Your own people took big shit on this grave, including his own parents. One thing if this was black college kid with academic scholarship on his way home and not street thug and scumbag robbing convenience store.
I doubt you'll ever get it
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11-26-2014, 12:33 PM

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Your own people took big shit on this grave, including his own parents. One thing if this was black college kid with academic scholarship on his way home and not street thug and scumbag robbing convenience store.
I doubt you'll ever get it

I don't "own" any people you dumb ass hick and you'll never get that.

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11-26-2014, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

I don't "own" any people you dumb ass hick and you'll never get that.

I don't live in animal kingdom. So yes, I don't need to get anything from you.
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11-26-2014, 12:45 PM

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I don't live in animal kingdom. So yes, I don't need to get anything from you.

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11-26-2014, 12:59 PM

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OK, have a nice day.

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11-26-2014, 01:19 PM

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11-26-2014, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by dyna mo

********** cares so much about a black dude in ferguson that he tunes into multiple news channels for coverage and starts a thread about that, not about the dude, but about the opposite from his view biased news.

yeah that'll help. as if that makes any fucking sense.

I don't know anything about Brown. I wasn't there to see the events. I was not a witness. I don't know anything about the cop or cops. I don't know anything about Ferguson. But then again, I wasn't talking about any of that.

You would know this if you had bothered to read the post before shooting off your mouth. But hey, don't change for me.

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CNN doesn't cover the news, they debate it. Let's put up four people with opposing views and have them slug it out. That's not news. I want you to report the news, not give me someone's opinion.

Maybe... but we could at least say that they "present" what is going on. Each news channel slants things their own way too perhaps, but in my opinion, Sean Hannity way seems to be the most hateful.
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11-26-2014, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Every street whore that ever got murdered by a john was in the same boat.
She could have avoided it by not being a street whore.
So why don't you go shit on the dead whores graves?
Because you sure have taken a big shit on this dead dude.

Assaulting a cop, no debating that.
Charging the cop, black witnesses to that effect.
Being shot by that cop, obvious.
All this happened quickly in the same short period of time but Brown is innocent. Sure.

I GUARANTEE you, if I walk up to a cop sitting in a car, repeatedly punch him in the face, go for his gun which any cop will instinctively have pulled out by now, have shots fired in the car, back off from the cop car, then charge the cop, I'm getting shot dead. What's so hard to understand here?

edit: Unless of course the cop was black, then he shot me because I'm white not because of what I did to start this mess.

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11-26-2014, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by L-Pink

Assaulting a cop, no debating that.
Charging the cop, black witnesses to that effect.
Being shot by that cop, obvious.
All this happened quickly in the same short period of time but Brown is innocent. Sure.

I GUARANTEE you, if I walk up to a cop sitting in a car, repeatedly punch him in the face, go for his gun which any cop will instinctively have pulled out by now, have shots fired in the car, back off from the cop car, then charge the cop, I'm getting shot dead. What's so hard to understand here?

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Well, a lot of people don't believe he was punched in the face repeatedly and other witnesses say the guy had his hands up.

You believe one account of what happened and that alone does not mean you got the truth.

Some eye witness accounts were clearly not accepted by the grand jury or he would be charged.

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11-26-2014, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by dyna mo

********** cares so much about a black dude in ferguson that he tunes into multiple news channels for coverage and starts a thread about that, not about the dude, but about the opposite from his view biased news.

yeah that'll help. as if that makes any fucking sense.

just like your fucking volt helps the environment.

Seriously, did your mother not love you when you were a child or something?

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11-26-2014, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Well, a lot of people don't believe he was punched in the face repeatedly and other witnesses say the guy had his hands up.

You believe one account of what happened and that alone does not mean you got the truth.

Some eye witness accounts were clearly not accepted by the grand jury or he would be charged.

Can you tell me where I can read about the eye witness accounts that were not accepted by the grand jury ? Or is their interviews that can be read or watched ?

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11-26-2014, 02:21 PM

Look into the eyes of an innocent man.
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11-26-2014, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

CNN doesn't cover the news, they debate it. Let's put up four people with opposing views and have them slug it out. That's not news. I want you to report the news, not give me someone's opinion.

This is why you don't get real news on Television anymore no matter what channel it is.

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11-26-2014, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Xenophage

Look into the eyes of an innocent man.

They won't be using it because that picture is not Michael Brown. It is a photo of murder Joda Cain.

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11-26-2014, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

I don't "own" any people you dumb ass hick and you'll never get that.

You know that is not the context in which the word was used right?

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11-26-2014, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Xenophage

Look into the eyes of an innocent man.

That pic was determined not to be Brown a long time ago.

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11-26-2014, 02:40 PM

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You know that is not the context in which the word was used right?

I put quotes around it so you wouldn't need to ask this question.

But do you understand that I don't know a single person in Ferguson and it's stupid to
say they are "my own" people.
Why aren't they "your people" since they are Americans? (Assuming you are American)

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11-26-2014, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by nico-t

maybe not being an idiot and stop watching those ridiculous news channels?

fact: News = negative energy.
So American 24h a day news is probably really unhealthy for you. I know i am exhausted after watching that unlimited drivel for more than 2 minutes.

I am 100% with you on this one
Unfortunately drama sells ! so they feed us all the BS and the mix of emotions.

If I really need to dig into news, I rather read it. Although the BS may be the same, there is at least less room for emotional manipulation than watching Media with all the sound/visual effects.

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11-26-2014, 03:50 PM

Plain and simple Brown made some seriously bad decisions. 1) Thinking being a common shoplifter is OK; 2) Thinking being big makes you untouchable; 2) Thinking being black makes you untouchable; 3) Thinking being obnoxious makes you untouchable; 4) Thinking "acting out" makes you a "tough guy".

I'm guessing you don't agree with POTUS' statements L-Pink?

Originally posted by L-Pink

Assaulting a cop, no debating that.
Charging the cop, black witnesses to that effect.
Being shot by that cop, obvious.
All this happened quickly in the same short period of time but Brown is innocent. Sure.

I GUARANTEE you, if I walk up to a cop sitting in a car, repeatedly punch him in the face, go for his gun which any cop will instinctively have pulled out by now, have shots fired in the car, back off from the cop car, then charge the cop, I'm getting shot dead. What's so hard to understand here?

edit: Unless of course the cop was black, then he shot me because I'm white not because of what I did to start this mess.

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11-26-2014, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Well, a lot of people don't believe he was punched in the face repeatedly and other witnesses say the guy had his hands up.

You believe one account of what happened and that alone does not mean you got the truth.

Some eye witness accounts were clearly not accepted by the grand jury or he would be charged.

Not sure if you have, or will read all the testimony and statements presented to the Grand Jury, but here is an AP article highlighting the issues with most of the "vocal media witnesses" etc and their conflicting statements, and credibility.

Grand jury documents rife with inconsistencies

That compares to about 7 witnesses that never appeared to the media, who gave accounts more or less in line with Officer Wilson's account, and what the forensics show.

I suggest people take the time to read through the full grand jury testimony, as its quite fascinating, but I do understand its a lot of reading and does take a long time to do so.

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11-26-2014, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Axeman

Not sure if you have, or will read all the testimony and statements presented to the Grand Jury, but here is an AP article highlighting the issues with most of the "vocal media witnesses" etc and their conflicting statements, and credibility.

Grand jury documents rife with inconsistencies

That compares to about 7 witnesses that never appeared to the media, who gave accounts more or less in line with Officer Wilson's account, and what the forensics show.

I suggest people take the time to read through the full grand jury testimony, as its quite fascinating, but I do understand its a lot of reading and does take a long time to do so.

Thus is the problem . Because some people simply will not read the Grand jury testimony and will not weigh the crime scene evidence with the testimony of the officer and Dorian Johnson . Those are the 2 best witnesses to what happened and once you read their testimonies it is pretty easy to see what happened and why the grand jury decided as they did .

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