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05-31-2008, 07:36 PM

We have been having a bit of a bear problem lately and of course being with in city limits I am not allow to BLAST the shit out of the animal with real firearms ... so I decided on second best .. have some fun with the little fucker and paint him up and hopefully he will get some kind of fear of "man" before he does something stupid and I have to call fish & game to come and trap and shoot him .. something I am dead against ..

My new paint ball gun .. and in the freezer is 2 hoppers full of semi frozen paint balls ..

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05-31-2008, 07:37 PM

airsoft is better

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05-31-2008, 07:38 PM

Bears in Vancouver?..what's next walrus and moose?

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05-31-2008, 07:40 PM

that's a cool looking paint gun
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05-31-2008, 07:43 PM

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that's a cool looking paint gun

Would get you shot walking around city limits here with that thing.
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05-31-2008, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by bringer

airsoft is better

there is no way on gods green earth that "airsoft" is even remotely close the the pain involved from something the size and weight of a paintball coming at you at 380 fps.. sorry totally a different league

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05-31-2008, 07:46 PM

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Would get you shot walking around city limits here with that thing.

no shit .. when i bought it I actually went and moved my vehicle closer to the store so I wouldn't be walking down the street with it .. I could just imagine the look on some passing cop as I stroll down main street with that under my arm .. gaaaa..

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05-31-2008, 07:51 PM

So are you going to go looking for him?
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05-31-2008, 07:53 PM

He's going to paint moosticles...

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05-31-2008, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by jakethedog

there is no way on gods green earth that "airsoft" is even remotely close the the pain involved from something the size and weight of a paintball coming at you at 380 fps.. sorry totally a different league

a good airsoft will get you 550fps+ and 300 round capacity. maybe 300 small pinches will trick the bear into retreating from a "swarming bee attack" then a few frozen paintballs that will yield the same results as throwing rocks.... maybe it runs, maybe it gets annoyed and kills you.

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05-31-2008, 08:26 PM

see if he really does "shit in the woods" or if all thats just talk

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05-31-2008, 08:29 PM

Guess thats the only kinda gun they allow up in Canada eh.........pussies.

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05-31-2008, 08:36 PM

i fucking unloaded on a big blacbear ripping up our garbage last summer with my bt4 ironhorse. the paintball gun makes for fairly effective bear control. and shooting a bear with a paintball gun is just pure fun...
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05-31-2008, 09:06 PM

Heh, you've never actually shot frozen paintballs, have you? Go ahead and pop some in the freezer and give it a go. Report back to us your findings

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05-31-2008, 09:12 PM

You're going to shoot a bear with a paint ball gun? Are you serious?

I don't think they shoot bears in Vancouver, I think they release them up in the mountains.

Why you would risk making a bear angry with a paintball gun seems ridiculous.

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05-31-2008, 09:13 PM

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Heh, you've never actually shot frozen paintballs, have you? Go ahead and pop some in the freezer and give it a go. Report back to us your findings

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05-31-2008, 10:24 PM

I've got a real one of those.

Its much better at killing shit & striking fear in hearts.

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05-31-2008, 10:26 PM

That will at least make you a lil bit cooler.... lmao...

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05-31-2008, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by jakethedog

there is no way on gods green earth that "airsoft" is even remotely close the the pain involved from something the size and weight of a paintball coming at you at 380 fps.. sorry totally a different league

trust me 7.62 is much more painful

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05-31-2008, 10:30 PM

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05-31-2008, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by pr0

I've got a real one of those.

Its much better at killing shit & striking fear in hearts.

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06-01-2008, 08:13 AM

Baddog ..NO i am not going looking for him .. nope .. nada .. no fucking way .. I am actually surprised I have the balls enough to think I can stand there and pop 50 or so shots off at him .. Bears+me has never been a good thing ..

Bringer .. I have 2 1/2 acres out here east of Vancouver come on out .. this has to get settled the good ol' fashioned way i guess .. bring your gear and we'll do a little hunting for each other .. or hell just a straight 10 yrd draw .. either way .. I am down ..

cheesefrog ..... I shoot frozen paint balls all the time .. well mine don't "really" freeze solid .. they have an oil base in the paint .. and mine just get way more dense and seem to break less .. and yes I have been told hurt WAY fucking more .. plus after a good shoot out you can dump the extras into your drink to cool it down .. jk .

Warchild .... I know they show you on TV News about some cute little cub they saved from a tree with fresh backed cookies or something .. but the truth is .. young bears like this one have grown up near people and never seem to develop that natural "fear" of man so they become very dangerous .. they will trap them in a can and sometime tell you they are going to relocate it .. but truth is they drive out to the dump and shoot it .. cause they know it will be back and may next time someone will be killed .. I know we are invading on their homes .. I know we are bulldozing their source of food .. yada yada .. such in life .. sorry ..

and finally pr0... hrmm .. something tells me there is no waivering in your statement that you you truly do own a real AK47 .. *shivers* ..
and the line from Jackie Brown is one of my favs of all time ..

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06-01-2008, 09:36 AM

yeah hey jake the frozen paintball will not work... your better off getting OC paintballs (pepperballs) plus they have other projectiles that are .68 cal like paintballs...

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06-01-2008, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by jakethedog

Baddog ..NO i am not going looking for him .. nope .. nada .. no fucking way .. I am actually surprised I have the balls enough to think I can stand there and pop 50 or so shots off at him .. Bears+me has never been a good thing ..

Bringer .. I have 2 1/2 acres out here east of Vancouver come on out .. this has to get settled the good ol' fashioned way i guess .. bring your gear and we'll do a little hunting for each other .. or hell just a straight 10 yrd draw .. either way .. I am down ..

cheesefrog ..... I shoot frozen paint balls all the time .. well mine don't "really" freeze solid .. they have an oil base in the paint .. and mine just get way more dense and seem to break less .. and yes I have been told hurt WAY fucking more .. plus after a good shoot out you can dump the extras into your drink to cool it down .. jk .

Warchild .... I know they show you on TV News about some cute little cub they saved from a tree with fresh backed cookies or something .. but the truth is .. young bears like this one have grown up near people and never seem to develop that natural "fear" of man so they become very dangerous .. they will trap them in a can and sometime tell you they are going to relocate it .. but truth is they drive out to the dump and shoot it .. cause they know it will be back and may next time someone will be killed .. I know we are invading on their homes .. I know we are bulldozing their source of food .. yada yada .. such in life .. sorry ..

and finally pr0... hrmm .. something tells me there is no waivering in your statement that you you truly do own a real AK47 .. *shivers* ..
and the line from Jackie Brown is one of my favs of all time ..

no papintball will freeze solid.. and will not shoot right... and really does not hurt any more than a normal paintball only difference is it does not break so it does not count when you shoot someone with it.....

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06-01-2008, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by jakethedog

and finally pr0... hrmm .. something tells me there is no wavering in your statement that you you truly do own a real AK47 .. *shivers* ..
and the line from Jackie Brown is one of my favs of all time ..

I'm the guy you want to have one. Level headed & professionally trained in its use.

It really is one of my favorite guns (and cheapest by far).

You can get a good quality Eastern European version at a gun show here in the states for $250-450. Probably less than you paid for your paintball version.

Oh & you can buy an 80-round drum to go with it...for $50.

so 320 + 50 = $370 to have enough suppressing fire to take on a small unit of armed men

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06-01-2008, 10:07 AM

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06-01-2008, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by jakethedog

Warchild .... I know they show you on TV News about some cute little cub they saved from a tree with fresh backed cookies or something .. but the truth is .. young bears like this one have grown up near people and never seem to develop that natural "fear" of man so they become very dangerous .. they will trap them in a can and sometime tell you they are going to relocate it .. but truth is they drive out to the dump and shoot it .. cause they know it will be back and may next time someone will be killed .. I know we are invading on their homes .. I know we are bulldozing their source of food .. yada yada .. such in life .. sorry ..

I'm not sure if you're just confused, or like the frozen paintball, just going on without actually knowing what you're talking about. Let's pretend you just got some bad information.

First off, conservation officers in the Lower Mainland don't take bears "out to the dump and shoot it", period. They don't use bullets to euthanize.

Secondly, many times, relocation attempts are made. You can feel free to check out some local headlines. A cub was actually killed not too long ago being relocated from a West Vancouver neighborhood, along with it's family. It died by mistake, it wasn't shot at the dump.

Now, before you tell me you know better, keep in mind that my sister is a critical care Veterinarian who has spent many hundreds of hours working with conservation and rescue societys as a volunteer. I've been told by someone who's worked first hand with these animals they rescue, sometimes rehabilitate and relocate. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you weren't actually told by a conservation officer they shoot bears in the dump.

This is not to say that some problem animals are not destroyed, of course that's not true. An unfortunate number of animals are destroyed, but not shot in the dump.

In the future before you accuse someone of basing their knowledge on "television news", you'd better make sure your facts are solid and not some bullshit you're just making up on the spot. You'll seem less foolish then.

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06-01-2008, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by pr0

I'm the guy you want to have one. Level headed & professionally trained in its use.

It really is one of my favorite guns (and cheapest by far).

You can get a good quality Eastern European version at a gun show here in the states for $250-450. Probably less than you paid for your paintball version.

Oh & you can buy an 80-round drum to go with it...for $50.

so 320 + 50 = $370 to have enough suppressing fire to take on a small unit of armed men

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We *Canadians* are SOOOO not allowed to play with the fun toys .. nothing at all "Fully automatic" .....That weapon would sure make a guy feel safe at night even in the worst neighborhood ..and well bears .. I wouldn't even use it on one .. that would just be plain unfair .. again .. WOW .. that would be interesting to say the least to shoot ....

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06-01-2008, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by jakethedog

there is no way on gods green earth that "airsoft" is even remotely close the the pain involved from something the size and weight of a paintball coming at you at 380 fps.. sorry totally a different league

Did he say at any one point that airsoft was more painful? He merely said that airsoft was a better hobby/activity whatever the fuck you want to call it. Only ever been paintballing and it is good shit!
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06-01-2008, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by WarChild

I'm not sure if you're just confused, or like the frozen paintball, just going on without actually knowing what you're talking about. Let's pretend you just got some bad information.

First off, conservation officers in the Lower Mainland don't take bears "out to the dump and shoot it", period. They don't use bullets to euthanize.

Secondly, many times, relocation attempts are made. You can feel free to check out some local headlines. A cub was actually killed not too long ago being relocated from a West Vancouver neighborhood, along with it's family. It died by mistake, it wasn't shot at the dump.

Now, before you tell me you know better, keep in mind that my sister is a critical care Veterinarian who has spent many hundreds of hours working with conservation and rescue societys as a volunteer. I've been told by someone who's worked first hand with these animals they rescue, sometimes rehabilitate and relocate. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you weren't actually told by a conservation officer they shoot bears in the dump.

This is not to say that some problem animals are not destroyed, of course that's not true. An unfortunate number of animals are destroyed, but not shot in the dump.

In the future before you accuse someone of basing their knowledge on "television news", you'd better make sure your facts are solid and not some bullshit you're just making up on the spot. You'll seem less foolish then.

Obviously she hasn't worked with ALL of the state employees who deal with this matter. Is it possible some of them hate animals...&/or are drunk hillbillies who find it easier to off an animal at the dump?

Reminds me of the guy in Georgia who was throwing peoples skeletons in the lake & giving the family wood ashes (telling them they had been cremated).

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06-01-2008, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by WarChild

I'm not sure if you're just confused, or like the frozen paintball, just going on without actually knowing what you're talking about. Let's pretend you just got some bad information.

First off, conservation officers in the Lower Mainland don't take bears "out to the dump and shoot it", period. They don't use bullets to euthanize.

Secondly, many times, relocation attempts are made. You can feel free to check out some local headlines. A cub was actually killed not too long ago being relocated from a West Vancouver neighborhood, along with it's family. It died by mistake, it wasn't shot at the dump.

Now, before you tell me you know better, keep in mind that my sister is a critical care Veterinarian who has spent many hundreds of hours working with conservation and rescue societys as a volunteer. I've been told by someone who's worked first hand with these animals they rescue, sometimes rehabilitate and relocate. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you weren't actually told by a conservation officer they shoot bears in the dump.

This is not to say that some problem animals are not destroyed, of course that's not true. An unfortunate number of animals are destroyed, but not shot in the dump.

In the future before you accuse someone of basing their knowledge on "television news", you'd better make sure your facts are solid and not some bullshit you're just making up on the spot. You'll seem less foolish then.

Tell ya what .. I have lived in Maple Ridge for just about all of my 40 yrs .. and been personal witness to many a bear shooting ..actually inside the trap .. and from trees .. none of which i condone but it is a fact .. tell you what ..what do you think they just did with the bear they found by metrotown which was relocated out past Harrison 4 years ago .. yet made it's way all the way back to Metrotown .. we shoot bears all the time out here and th eonly person that complains is the metrosexual tree huggers ..
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06-01-2008, 10:25 AM

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Did he say at any one point that airsoft was more painful? He merely said that airsoft was a better hobby/activity whatever the fuck you want to call it. Only ever been paintballing and it is good shit!

oh ok ... airsoft is fun ..my son has a couple airsoft set ups.. much safer than pellet rifle for sure ..

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06-01-2008, 10:26 AM

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Obviously she hasn't worked with ALL of the state employees who deal with this matter. Is it possible some of them hate animals...&/or are drunk hillbillies who find it easier to off an animal at the dump?

Reminds me of the guy in Georgia who was throwing peoples skeletons in the lake & giving the family wood ashes (telling them they had been cremated).

There are always a few bad apples.

Dude, we're talking about Vancouver Canada here. This isn't backwater USA, with hilly billies running around shooting off rifles at the dump. Our gun laws are way different than yours.

Conservation isn't something you just sign up for because you think the pay is good. It's difficult to get in to and the pay is NOT good. I find it hard to believe there's many true "animal haters" amongst the conservation officers. I won't discount the possibility of a few I guess, but seems like an odd career choice.

Now of course some animals have to be destroyed. Some can't be relocated, or continue to come back to populated areas and end up being destroyed. Some die while being relocated aswell.

The fact of the matter is, the longer a bear stays around the neighborhood, the more likely it will eventually have to be destroyed. So by buying a paintball gun, a goofy one at that, to try and scare it away because you don't want to call conservation is actually doing more harm than good.

We can only hope that Einstein tries to use the painball gun from the same level and close to the bear and gets a swat across the face from a pawful of sharp claws.

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06-01-2008, 10:27 AM

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Tell ya what .. I have lived in Maple Ridge for just about all of my 40 yrs .. and been personal witness to many a bear shooting ..actually inside the trap .. and from trees .. none of which i condone but it is a fact .. tell you what ..what do you think they just did with the bear they found by metrotown which was relocated out past Harrison 4 years ago .. yet made it's way all the way back to Metrotown .. we shoot bears all the time out here and th eonly person that complains is the metrosexual tree huggers ..
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So 4 years after relocated a bear it had to be killed? That's what you're telling me? A few posts ago we didn't relocate bears, we simply shot them at the dump. Which one is it?

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06-01-2008, 10:31 AM

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Dude, we're talking about Vancouver Canada here. This isn't backwater USA, with hilly billies running around shooting off rifles at the dump. Our gun laws are way different than yours.

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06-01-2008, 10:37 AM

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So 4 years after relocated a bear it had to be killed? That's what you're telling me? A few posts ago we didn't relocate bears, we simply shot them at the dump. Which one is it?

wow .. this is exactly what I hate about teh net ..always some confusion .. ..I never said Canadians .. British Columbian's or even Fish and Wildlife from the GVRD don't "try" and relocate wild animals .. You said something about a sister working for critical care vet .. well not sure where she worked but my FAT ex-wife was the district manager for the SPCA out here .. and her complaint daily was .. how deer ..bear and other wild life has started to conflict more and more with humanity .. and that they were going to loose .. NO ONE here want to shoot..harm or destroy animals for the plain fun of it ...*well no one i know*.. I am just saying this .. problem animals are destroyed almost daily up the valley .. MY WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF THIS THREAD WAS.......... to say I purchased a new paintball gun to NON-LETHALLY try and remove a bear that has become a dangerous nuisance and is only going to get SHOT if I call GVRD fish and game ..

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06-01-2008, 10:39 AM

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Guess i got the wrong idea watching Trailer Park Boys all these years?

Yeah, it's kind of silly they show all that gunplay on TPB, because it's unrealistic.

Rifles are more relaxed, but handguns are really restricted here. You need a permit to own them, of course. You need a permit to transport them, to the range and back. They must be stored locked and unloaded at all times, etc etc.

If someone broke in to your house here in Vancouver, and you pulled out a handgun and shot them, you'd probably be in much more trouble for the Federal gun offenses than the burglar would be.

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06-01-2008, 10:43 AM

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We have been having a bit of a bear problem lately and of course being with in city limits I am not allow to BLAST the shit out of the animal with real firearms ... so I decided on second best .. have some fun with the little fucker and paint him up and hopefully he will get some kind of fear of "man" before he does something stupid and I have to call fish & game to come and trap and shoot him .. something I am dead against ..

My new paint ball gun .. and in the freezer is 2 hoppers full of semi frozen paint balls ..

Why the fuck would you freeze the paint balls, that's totally irresponsible man. I know it sounds cool be be a tough guy on the interwebs, but you can really hurt someone with that shit.

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06-01-2008, 10:50 AM

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Why the fuck would you freeze the paint balls, that's totally irresponsible man. I know it sounds cool be be a tough guy on the interwebs, but you can really hurt someone with that shit.

they don't actually freeze .. they just kind of get gooey .. and I wouldn't shoot them at anyone people wise .. but YES i would shoot them at a bear .. and as many as I could if it wasn't moving away at a very fast rate of speed ... have been shot lots and shot lots of people with regular paintballs .. hell they hurt like shit .. but screwing around a few months ago my dog got shot running through our property while we were playing .. and well to be honest .. he didn't even stutter ..yelp .. skip or trip .... it was like the fur protected him and made it almost painless .. he still runs chases and barks when we're shooting targets ..trying to catch the damn paintballs ..

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06-01-2008, 10:52 AM

Well let's just agree to disagree on the methods.

Don't freeze the paintballs though, they don't freeze like you said, and they don't fly as well. Just use normal paintballs if you must.

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06-01-2008, 10:53 AM

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06-01-2008, 10:59 AM

Why not get some of those paint-balls the cops use that are full of pepper spray. I dont' think a 1000lb bear is going to be too deterred by a paintball but the pepper spray definitely works.
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06-01-2008, 11:03 AM

[QUOTE=WarChild;14263261]Well let's just agree to disagree on the methods.

Don't freeze the paintballs though, they don't freeze like you said, and they don't fly as well. Just use normal paintballs if you must.

You should have bought an autococker too [/QUOTE

I believe it is ..if you are saying "semi-auto" as in .. cock it once .. and then just keep pulling the trigger as fast as you can till air or balls run out .. and well I don't think we're even really disagreeing .. we're just sharing our own points, thoughts and opinions ...

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#45

06-01-2008, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by Altheon

Why not get some of those paint-balls the cops use that are full of pepper spray. I dont' think a 1000lb bear is going to be too deterred by a paintball but the pepper spray definitely works.

I did buy a great big can of Bear spray 1.0% capsicum ....kind of hoping i don't have to use it actually .. there is never only one victim when you use any type pepper spray .. you know what I mean if you have ever had to use it ..

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06-01-2008, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by pr0

I'm the guy you want to have one. Level headed & professionally trained in its use.

Just like EVERY other gun owner out there

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06-01-2008, 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=jakethedog;14263279]

Originally posted by WarChild

Well let's just agree to disagree on the methods.

Don't freeze the paintballs though, they don't freeze like you said, and they don't fly as well. Just use normal paintballs if you must.

You should have bought an autococker too [/QUOTE

I believe it is ..if you are saying "semi-auto" as in .. cock it once .. and then just keep pulling the trigger as fast as you can till air or balls run out .. and well I don't think we're even really disagreeing .. we're just sharing our own points, thoughts and opinions ...

No, auto-cocker is a brand of paintball gun that's super reliable and very accurate. It's an all mechanical closed bolt design, so by nature its slower than the pure electric guns. I've always found them more accurate, and they're easy to crank the regulators way up on for course-illegal, punishing speeds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autococker

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06-01-2008, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by jakethedog

I did buy a great big can of Bear spray 1.0% capsicum ....kind of hoping i don't have to use it actually .. there is never only one victim when you use any type pepper spray .. you know what I mean if you have ever had to use it ..

Yeah big cans of Bear scare are fucking nasty. That sticky burning goopy mess gets everywhere and it fucking sucks.

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#49

06-01-2008, 11:13 AM

I take it you watched the MMA thing last night
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06-01-2008, 12:36 PM

that looks like a fun toy

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