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I'm sick and tired of seeing all these independent photographers and videographers. Seriously the world is getting retarded with the the paparrazi's out there.
If you are told once to get the camera out of someone's face and you don't do it then you deserve what's coming to you.
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It's called respect of others privacy and wishes.
If ask you to get out of my face with your camera once politely and you come blabering you didn't do nothing and cry wolf about your camera like that dumbass cameraman, then I'll say it again, you deserve what's coming to you.
This as nothing to do with my nationality or the languages I speak.Comment
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The cop lost it. I'm sure he was already upset at the previous situation and just didn't like this guy in his face.| skype: getscorecash | ICQ: 59-271-063 |
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i hope you dumb fucking idiots that just can't stop criticizing police find yourself getting taken hostage, tortured and killed while 1500 cops watch while eating a sandwich.
at some point in your life, you are going to have to confront your issues with authority figures and deal with the problem that causes you to continually act out and rebel like a 1/2 retarded 6yr old, rather than continually directing your anger outwards so you can avoid whats really hurting you within.
seriously... no one will think less of you for admitting that your uncle held you down and gave you a rim job when you were 6. it wasn't your fault. get help for yourself. learn to be happy. learn to trust again.Comment
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the guy just got into a shoot out with fellow officers, had not even secured the scene and who knows what else happened and he has some dick head photographer orbiting the scene while the situation is ongoing and being an asshole. gee... wonder why he's a little emotional?Comment
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The guy did nothing wrong and the cop should be fired.Comment
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If you look back you will see I never criticized any police dipshit. I asked a simple question without stating my beliefs so fuck off. I have more cop freinds than you ever will, I have worked very closely with MP's for a good part of my life as well. I have NO problem with good cops.
There is an oath you take to uphold the law. When a cop impedes our our rights with abuse of their power then I have a HUGE problem. The question is who will protect you when one of these untrained monkeys decides he doesnt like the way you look?
Until it becomes illegal for reporters to film in public areas you can eat shit with your opinion. Cops are supposed to respect the laws themselves. If they cant handle the stress of a shoot out without being agressive and breaking the law themselves they have NO biz being a cop at all.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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i hope you dumb fucking idiots who cant stop rolling over for cops who can't follow the rules find yourself hogtied in a police station for no reason while we all laugh and eat sandwiches
Fact is rarely do cops rescue people from hostage situations. Usually the cops kill you or the criminal does anyways certainly a guy filming it on camera isn't going to help nor hinder their investigation.
i think it was that time in grade school when i fried ants with a magnifying glass that did it
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i dont know what to say to that , heh , its all true damnit , my uncle gave me rimmer , now i freak out when i see cops not doing their job.
I wish people would learn to understand that criticism is healthy .
The cop obviously has some "power" issues. Its pretty simple for the cop to do his job. " hey you have to move , we are doing an investigation" , if the answer is anything but "ok" then you tell him what he is being arrested for and you arrest him. pretty simple for most humans to understand.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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a reasonable person might stop to ask "hmmm what are ALL the facts of this situation"
and when hearing the reporter/cameraman being a dickhead and taunting the cop by shouting "was that so hard" a few times in a very asshole tone... one might stop to wonder what else was said BEFORE the filming started.
you know... get all the facts, look at everything in the correct context and then make some judgment as to right or wrong, over the line or not.
at least thats generally the way a well balanced, emotionally healthy person with a true interest in knowing that everyone is doing the right thing, would approach a situation.
i personally fail to see how showing a little understanding to a police officer standing in a crime scene right after a shootout and having some idiot orbiting the scene taunting him is "rolling over for the police"
the day we can hire robots to police the world, great. a robot makes a bad move.. he gets recycled. but as it is, we hire people with lives to lose, families to support and children to raise to go out and make our world safer. we hire human beings to go out and risk their lives for us.
we do that.. then a bunch of childish assholes expect them to dive right into situations where their adrenaline and endorphins spike right off the chart and they might be killed, yet expect them to behave 2 minutes that time with the composure of a waiter at a 5 star restaurant and want to start talking about what a bunch of assholes cops are.
its pathetic and stupid.Comment
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"hi, i have a job for you. i will pay you $40,000.00 a year. but you will have to risk your life constantly, could be killed at any moment and people will basically do nothing but call you an asshole for your service"Comment
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"hi, i have a job for you. i will pay you $40,000.00 a year. but you will have to risk your life constantly, could be killed at any moment and people will basically do nothing but call you an asshole for your service"Comment
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Not true. Cops are celebrated everywhere by the majority. They get awards, medals, and accomodations for good work. There are bad apples in every line of work and cops shouldnt get away with illegal actions just because they wear a badge or some people call them assholes.Last edited by notoldschool; 05-31-2008, 09:02 AM.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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He is in Public, has full right to video in public, fuck the police! An fuck the Frenchy with that dumb ass comment! Wait till a cop is beating your ass n someone video it, When i want to sue the cops hopefully the guy catching it on video doesnt leave or smash the tape when u need it to save ur ass from the Policed statesI.C.Q 360-553-673Comment
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the cop or the reporter ?
why guess what we don't know, people are rude all the time at every job. ( cept this one of course )
i can only theorize based on what facts we have not theories on what might have been said or done beforehand, seems like you are making excuses for the cop based on things that aren't facts like what was said beforehand.
a news reporters job is to report news , a cops job is to catch criminals, the cop didnt seem too worried about any shooter, he didnt look around , he ambled over slowly looking at the ground. If the cop had ran over gun drawn and said " theres a possible shooter in the area , you have to get back a safe distance " i could see him being pissed if the reporter didnt obey.
wtf .. u robot basher
stop for a second and pretend we are friends sitting on a couch watching the news ( ok dont do that but heh )
Stop playing judge for a second and look at it in a reasonable context. Cops are not gods , they choose their job, people do far more dangerous things for nothing so spare us the melodrama heroic job routine.
The cops didnt want to be filmed , most people dont like being filmed, the one cop prob said , " hey go tell that reporter to stop filming " because cops are used to people that roll over. the cop ambles over expecting the reporter to stick his tail between his legs and run away , he didnt , cop got offended got all pissy , THEY BOTH could have been polite, THEY BOTH acted immature because they both wanted to prove a point.
A proper cop would have come over and said " you have to move because we are doing an investigation and there could be a shooter in the area, if you do not move i have to arrest you to make our job easier" , plain and simple , takes 2 seconds and there is no possible answer to give but yes or no. and no reason to argue until later.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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fat ugly american cop! Should be killed!M&A QueenComment
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lol... Paparrazis? First, Police are not celebrities.. Second, if you think a cop isnt doing his job properly, is abusing his power or is violent.. i certainly hope someone will film him... BUt in this case, if you watch the video again, youd realize that this is not an independent photographer.. but the camera man of a TV news station filming a crime scene...
Btw, next time someone annoys you, hit the shit out of him... and tell the judge he deserved it..Comment
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"not even secured the scene".. "the situation is ongoing".... really? Sounds to me like the guy was already in custody.. Dickhead or not.. anyone else under heavy stress kicking the shit out of a dickhead will go to jail without getting any pity from a judge... If you are a cop and control your emotion maybe you need to find something else to do..Comment
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cops... dont get to use emotion within their job... thats the point of being a cop and having a badge.
i do agree if the cameraman was a dickhead and being arrogant or snyde, that the officer could make him ship out... but lay a hand other than cuffs on him, no...
the cameraman was from a news station and he was ALSO there doing his job.
to me, if you analyze the footage that is there (who knows what happened before, does sound like the cameraman was getting lippy, but nothing extreme) it looks like the cop reacted on embarrassment and not adrenaline... notice how he dosnt know what to do at first... he comes at the cameraman, and as soon as the guy starts asking for the officers name and badge number he almost runs away, then gets the idea to make it all stop... there is his mistake... he then comes back to the camera guy, circles around as he notices hes getting filmed... why?? to hide himself .... why does a cop need to hide himself? maybe because hes about to attack that guy? he was trying to get off camera before ATTACKING him... he probably had it in his mind that if he did it off camera that it couldnt be proved in court that it was him... get a couple voices int here and you cant tell who...
in the end...
the cop is wrong.. should he be fired? doubt that... perhaps kicked down to parking lot duty for awhile...Comment
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fuck the police!
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So having a tough job allows you free reign to break the law? This world would be a pretty crazy place with that line of thinking.
And people call cops assholes because of things like this. Weed out the cops on power trips like this one and you won't have that negative connotation towards them. Unfortunately, nothing is ever done in situations like this and at worst he'll get a short suspension with pay.Comment
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Notice how they cut out the prior part.. i.e. where they were told to stop filming and go elsewhere.. Instead they air the part that makes them look like the victim.Comment
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No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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fuck off idiot. the guy worked for a local news agency and if you watch the video you'll see the attack was unprovoked. you think cops should get away with w/e because their jobs are stressful? at some point you'll be the victim of a cop on a ego trip abusing their power because they can and you'll realize that the ones hired with YOUR tax dollars to protect you are doing nothing more then bullying you into submission.333-765-551Comment
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Yea.. I have had a few run in with the police while doing photography.. Lucky nothing bad..Comment
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Oh don't worry about the French Canadians. All they know is to eat Poutine with a Pepsi while trying to separate from the rest of Canada.
I am not shocked he says "Freedom and rights my fucking ass". After all the French are not used to giving the rest of the people in Quebec any Freedoms with their "language right" and the fact that you have to have everything in French only or to have French as the dominate language on signs (meaning bigger then English characters or as they say it "To see to it that French is the normal and everyday language of work, communication, commerce and business in the civil administration and in enterprises; (article 161)".
To the French you need to say mange merde avec Office québécois de la langue française câlisse
In regards to the police man, he thought he is superior to the law and can do as he wishes. That was way over his call of duty and should be at least suspended for what he did.
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You're not cool unless yuh pee yuh pants.Comment
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Listen to the broadcaster just before they air the self serving footage.. The broadcaster says that the camera man was told to stop filming and move to the media area.. But it appears he kept filming while the cop goes to talk to the other guy.. They cut all of that out.. After the cop comes back towards him and tells him where the area is, he keeps filming... As far as I'm concerned, he was given 2 chances to comply and although I think it could have been handled differently, I feel the guy deserved a beat down. If you don't listen to what a cop tells you to do 2x then you better be willing to get an ass kicking and not cry about it afterwards. It's clear the camera man was hoping to provoke something.Comment
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A cop has no right to tell someone to stop filming something on public property. He doesn't own that street. It seems like the reporter was trying to find out where to go and the cop finally told him. The only reason the cop hit him is because he made a rude comment and asked for his badge number. That is what the incident was about. If he hadn't done either, he wouldn't have been roughed up.
Maybe that's how you like it here, but I'm not a fan of a country that has the police beat up people for asking for their badge number.Comment
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Wrong?
to all "cop can beat anyone, he's fine, he's catching bad guys" - cops have real advantage in any conflict over any other person - in training, arms and (most important) in public credit.
If there is an argue, cop as a witness will have much higher authority than any other person.
That is right and should be that way, but this implies one VERY important thing - every society must not tolerate any cop, who is not able to deal with his temper, any cop abusing his power, any cop going over the legal limits - as this cop definitelly did.
Because in every society, any cop must respect simple rights of free speach (except cases, when publicity can harm investigation) - generally, there was nothing wrong taping the situation, in 99% of cases, any cop will raise no objective against taping, because he has NO reason IF he goes by the rules.
This cop behaved like an agressive asshole, and agressive assholes should fight in ring and not in streets.Last edited by abdulzabak; 06-01-2008, 03:55 AM.Comment
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