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Why do you think cash programs hide their statistics? [STATS]

05-23-2008, 08:15 AM

So, we have been selling desktop stripper for over 9 years now. We just released a new HD version in January that pushes a new girl, every morning, for free, to the user desktop till he buys one. This is a neat adult product that delivers and does not compete with the rest.

If your sales are going down because you keep promoting photos and videos that are available for free everywhere, maybe it's time for you to change and try something new.

To the point now I don't get why other cash program don't publish their stats. Our company has been growing the last 9 years with the same honesty and transparency. We've been publishing our top 100 affiliates for a while, we're now publishing DETAILED STATISTICS of our top 100 affiliates. I'm interested in knowing what you guys thing and why on earth do you think the other big names around keep that information secret

The stats are available here: http://www3.totemcash.com/free/statistics.php
Click on the "+" to unfold detailed statistics for each affiliate.

Maybe it's time for you to promote a product that is NOt available for free everywhere

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05-23-2008, 08:27 AM

Maybe it's time for you to promote a product that is NOt available for free everywhere

Since you help sites that steal content monetize their traffic, you contribute to the problem. Aiding in content theft and being smug about it to boot.

Just one example:

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05-23-2008, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by commonsense

Since you help sites that steal content monetize their traffic, you contribute to the problem. Aiding in content theft and being smug about it to boot.

Just one example:

http://pornorip.net

yeah, I'm sure us banning this guy would save the whole porn industry.

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05-23-2008, 09:32 AM

So you really are just gonna allow anyone to promote you anywhere ?
just because by you banning them you wont stop them from doing it ?

give me a break

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05-23-2008, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Chris

So you really are just gonna allow anyone to promote you anywhere ?
just because by you banning them you wont stop them from doing it ?

give me a break

If it doesn't make dollars. then it doesn't make sense
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05-23-2008, 09:40 AM

your sales pitch is weak and without merit.

try again.
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05-23-2008, 09:42 AM

your top affiliate only makes $14k and you have been around for 9 years? Those stats are awful... thx for sharing. Average $7.54 per sale/rebill (1883 / $14,207)
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05-23-2008, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by nation-x

your top affiliate only makes $14k and you have been around for 9 years? Those stats are awful... thx for sharing. Average $7.54 per sale/rebill (1883 / $14,207)

I'm sure you have plenty affiliates doing better than 1/58 like he does. Please share your stats ;)

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05-23-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Sexy Rex

I'm sure you have plenty affiliates doing better than 1/58 like he does. Please share your stats ;)

I'm an affiliate... I don't own a program... but I don't promote totemcash either because I have this thing about not promoting possible spyware.
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05-23-2008, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by nation-x

I'm an affiliate... I don't own a program... but I don't promote totemcash either because I have this thing about not promoting possible spyware.

Well, maybe you should do your homework before you talk. VirtuaGirl has and will always be free of any spyware, adware or any type of scam. Over 1.6 millions users right now, they all talk on the forum on the website, feel free to find one complaining about that

We don't fuck our customers (no cross sales, no ads, not even exits) and they end up coming back more and spending more.

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05-23-2008, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Sexy Rex

yeah, I'm sure us banning this guy would save the whole porn industry.

Its the AFF defense. Shit like this makes me sad.

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05-23-2008, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by nation-x

I'm an affiliate... I don't own a program... but I don't promote totemcash either because I have this thing about not promoting possible spyware.

if virtual girl would contain spyware someone would have noticed over the last 9 years. i can only say that it works great as an upsell in member areas, especially when you have content from the same girls - from my personal experience

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05-23-2008, 10:11 AM

Totemcash is a great program and been sending them traffic since late 90s...What they do is different from everyone else and its a great way to mix things up. Rex the owner is just an upfront and is showing why what he does works...All you haters would become lovers if you gave them a shot......

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05-23-2008, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Sexy Rex

Well, maybe you should do your homework before you talk. VirtuaGirl has and will always be free of any spyware, adware or any type of scam. Over 1.6 millions users right now, they all talk on the forum on the website, feel free to find one complaining about that

We don't fuck our customers (no cross sales, no ads, not even exits) and they end up coming back more and spending more.

Rex has been in the business for 9 years, I have known him for over 6 years now.
I think he has been against Spyware since the beginning.

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05-23-2008, 10:15 AM

Seems to me that Rex is being pretty up-front about his stats, his program, and his product. As long as I've known him, that's how he's always been.

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05-23-2008, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by nation-x

I'm an affiliate... I don't own a program... but I don't promote totemcash either because I have this thing about not promoting possible spyware.

Ha, spyware? Rex is one of the most standup guys in the biz. I've been selling totem products from our sites since 2001. You've got the wrong guy there buddy.
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05-23-2008, 10:19 AM

Are these stats fucked up why is affiliate 7 have more sales then the others with a lower payout?

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05-23-2008, 10:20 AM

Very nice work by the top affiliate
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05-23-2008, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by howard

Totemcash is a great program and been sending them traffic since late 90s...What they do is different from everyone else and its a great way to mix things up. Rex the owner is just an upfront and is showing why what he does works...All you haters would become lovers if you gave them a shot......

I have to agree with Howard on this, not only is Rex a close personal friend, but i do know first hand just how serious he takes his business and treats the people he does business with. On a personal level he has always been straight forward and a great friend.

I think those who dont have anything nice to say, should go take a closer look at what he has and then post. 2cents.

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05-23-2008, 10:23 AM

I tried you program and it absolutely sucked.
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05-23-2008, 10:25 AM

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05-23-2008, 10:28 AM

Thanks for this insight. Very nice.

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05-23-2008, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by MikeHawk

I have to agree with Howard on this, not only is Rex a close personal friend, but i do know first hand just how serious he takes his business and treats the people he does business with. On a personal level he has always been straight forward and a great friend.

I think those who dont have anything nice to say, should go take a closer look at what he has and then post. 2cents.

Mike not to be a dick but lets look at this.

1. not only is Rex a close personal friend,
So then your not really objective here as he is a buddy.

2. I think those who dont have anything nice to say, should go take a closer look at what he has and then post.

Ok fair enough. He basically bashed all of us selling photo or videos as programs that are going down but he is the great white a hope. A hope that has no problem with letting affiliates do as they want including advertising on sites that steel content from sites like yours and mine which he lists as the reason we are going down. To be honest I don't know and don't care if he is the nicest guy in the world if he profits off theft and has such a blatant disregard about it as he made clear above by not caring about affiliates that are proven to steel in this very thread.

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05-23-2008, 10:29 AM

I wasn't saying it was spyware... I should have been more clear... I don't promote anything the surfer has to install.
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05-23-2008, 10:31 AM

Are these stats for Year to date?

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05-23-2008, 10:32 AM

Rex is one of the most honest person in the industry, he's straight forward and even has the guts to show is stats! I think some people misunderstood what he ment in his post... We're promoting his stuff and will do even more in the future, VirtuaGirl is unique and nothing beats it! I can even assure you there's no spyware as I'm also a user on my personal computer!

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05-23-2008, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by Karupted Charles

Mike not to be a dick but lets look at this.

1. not only is Rex a close personal friend,
So then your not really objective here as he is a buddy.

2. I think those who dont have anything nice to say, should go take a closer look at what he has and then post.

Ok fair enough. He basically bashed all of us selling photo or videos as programs that are going down but he is the great white a hope. A hope that has no problem with letting affiliates do as they want including advertising on sites that steel content from sites like yours and mine which he lists as the reason we are going down. To be honest I don't know and don't care if he is the nicest guy in the world if he profits off theft and has such a blatant disregard about it as he made clear above by not caring about affiliates that are proven to steel in this very thread.

BASHED??? Are we getting a bit over sensitive here???

"if your sales are going down because you keep promoting photos and videos that are available for free everywhere, maybe it's time for you to change and try something new"

Rex is being upfront, doesn't hide anything and as a UNIQUE product.

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05-23-2008, 11:04 AM

Amazing that the bro club came in here, without a single response about Totemcash being used to monetize stolen content. On second thought, it isn't amazing at all.
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05-23-2008, 11:07 AM

Amazing that the bro club came in here, without a single response about Totemcash being used to monetize stolen content. On second thought, it isn't amazing at all.

all the bro club says is that Rex is a respected person in this industry and a top notch friend of mine

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05-23-2008, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by CyberAgeGary

Are these stats for Year to date?

No if you click the link that Sexy Rex provided and click on the lil' plus sign like he said, you will see it drop out and that these are stats for 1 month, specifically April.

Really Virtual Girl is a great product sure to make anyone promoting them money that they would otherwise not see.

Nation-x the $$ and conversions that you see here are different than what is seen with paysites because it is a non competing upsell that is a totally different biz model to a paysite.

This is a sale as well as purchasing a more expensive membership so you are sort of comparing apples and oranges I think since I can't think of any product that is the same biz model.

Basically what you are looking at, for those of you who were too rude to go and actually look at the details of the Totem Cash program before posting, is affiliate earnings for 1 month based on a minimum sale of $12.95 and the webmaster making 50% of that.

The reason why some people have more sales and less money is because the money the webmaster is receiving is based on the amount of money their surfer is spending thus someone with 100 sales of $12.95 will earn less money than someone with 75 sales of $24.95.

Maybe you guys should learn to read and analyse before posting.

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05-23-2008, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by johannes

all the bro club says is that Rex is a respected person in this industry and a top notch friend of mine

Do you care that Virtuagirl is used by sites that steal content to make money, therefore continuing on with the cycle? Or are you with his philosophy that if he doesn't do it, someone else will.
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05-23-2008, 11:19 AM

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BASHED??? Are we getting a bit over sensitive here???

"if your sales are going down because you keep promoting photos and videos that are available for free everywhere, maybe it's time for you to change and try something new"

Rex is being upfront, doesn't hide anything and as a UNIQUE product.

GO REX GO!!!!!

seriously how do you find the time and energy to lick so much asshole?

yeah he is a standup guy but doesnt mind profetting from other peoples stolen content, cause you know, banning one affiliate wont change the world...yeah he is straight foward, I'll give him that...atleast unlike most he is honest about his shady business practices.
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05-23-2008, 11:27 AM

I think it is a cool product for sure, but I never had any luck promoting them, I think I sent a few thousand hits a couple years ago and never made a sale

but, i have to say, allowing content thieves to promote you is pretty lame

does anyone know if there is a database available of all the programs that allow traffic from pirates and thieves? if not, someone needs to create one and publicize it
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05-23-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Jace

I think it is a cool product for sure, but I never had any luck promoting them, I think I sent a few thousand hits a couple years ago and never made a sale

but, i have to say, allowing content thieves to promote you is pretty lame

does anyone know if there is a database available of all the programs that allow traffic from pirates and thieves? if not, someone needs to create one and publicize it

prob would be easier to have a database of ones that dont allow that type of traffic. Once the bigger programs go the stolen content route the others seem to follow suite.
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05-23-2008, 02:03 PM

Have to mention it: Virtuagirl is a unique and great program, i love it! The people behind are excellent.
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05-23-2008, 02:14 PM

gatta love haters... the guy comes to share his stats and bashing begins..
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05-23-2008, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by qwe

gatta love haters... the guy comes to share his stats and bashing begins..

i wouldn't call defending the industry you work bashing
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05-23-2008, 02:21 PM

I used to promote virtualgirl back in my early TGP days, did very well with them and used both the regular program and prepaid campaigns for them.
Was it called totemcash from the beginning? As far as I remember they used to have it all under 1 domain

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05-23-2008, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Karupted Charles

Mike not to be a dick but lets look at this.

Ok fair enough. He basically bashed all of us selling photo or videos as programs that are going down but he is the great white a hope. A hope that has no problem with letting affiliates do as they want including advertising on sites that steel content from sites like yours and mine which he lists as the reason we are going down. To be honest I don't know and don't care if he is the nicest guy in the world if he profits off theft and has such a blatant disregard about it as he made clear above by not caring about affiliates that are proven to steel in this very thread.
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05-23-2008, 02:29 PM

I am not part of the bro club. I make nothing off of Rex or their program (I tried, made no sales)

But his program isn't spyware. He is more upfront than most program owners. This thread is just silly.
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05-23-2008, 02:37 PM

Rex, is it possible for affiliates to host the binaries/install themselves or must it be done through your webpage(s).
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05-23-2008, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by BradM

I am not part of the bro club. I make nothing off of Rex or their program (I tried, made no sales)

But his program isn't spyware. He is more upfront than most program owners. This thread is just silly.

One person mentioned installs and it went even further off topic. If virtuagirl is a good product or not is a moot point well.

Programs like Totemcash that help sites that steal content make money. That's the issue. I agree that its was silly to make this thread.

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05-23-2008, 05:47 PM

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05-23-2008, 10:00 PM

In the land of the super unoriginal. Coming on here, telling people you have a unique selling product and posting affiliate stats is like screaming "copy me". The product is cool and not exactly rocket science.
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05-23-2008, 10:28 PM

Fuck I need to get me a desk-top stripper. That would really make my wife pull out the CC for me, ahhh forgot, have no wife or desktop stripper.....

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