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05-22-2008, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by A1R3K

yes.

the reason behind me isolating to two is that the american sheeple will vote for the top two. has there ever been someone who wasnt a front runner that actually surprised the shit out of everyone and won? off the top of my head i don't recall. i'm well aware of the other candidates in the running, i just don't realistically see any of them winning. i got this gut feeling that he's gonna be the next president.

Obama and McCain were not front runners 1 year ago. Even six months ago.

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05-22-2008, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by OTerror

this may be true but he is black and white.

True too - but people only see skin deep.

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05-22-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by robfantasy

you know a good way to look at it is like this...

look at your business.. say you had to go out of town for a month, would you let some new kid who who you have never heard of, who shows up to your front door and talks all hype and bullshit and tells you how much money he is going to make you while you are gone even though he has never had any business experience at all, but has "all these great ideas"...

or would you leave your business in the hands of someone who knows your business, has been involved in the industry, has years of wisdom and has seen your business from all angles.

i would rest easier at night with the later.

if i didnt give a fuck and wanted to give a new kid a shot because i have enough money and it wouldnt really matter if my business was run to the ground or not, i would go with the new kid.

but do we want to take that risk on the future of our country?

i think not.

go with mccain and hope a better candidate pops up for 2012.

What if you the experienced guy (older guy) was going to try and destroy your business once you left (or he got in power)... he even tells you this straight to your face.

Do you now take your chances with a guy that might not know everything, but has advisor's to help? Or the guy that you know for damn sure crush you when he gets in power?

Not sure myself - hard choice to make.

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05-22-2008, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

What if you the experienced guy (older guy) was going to try and destroy your business once you left (or he got in power)... he even tells you this straight to your face.

Do you now take your chances with a guy that might not know everything, but has advisor's to help? Or the guy that you know for damn sure crush you when he gets in power?

Not sure myself - hard choice to make.

easy choice for me. I totally agree with your analogy as well. The US is the worlds largest running biz and the Americans have been choosing bums to run it for all the wrong reasons for WAY to long. I hope the dumb rednecks and evangelicals dont control the decision once again this time around.

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05-22-2008, 03:57 PM

I'm so over the debate I don't know what to think.

Never has there been an election like this and it's come at a time when our country is in such bad shape. It's going to be a monumental task for whomever takes the Presidency. Each of the major candidates has their good and bad points. All you can do is vote for the candidate that you think would do the most good for our country both domestically and internationally.

I tend to lean toward Obama. I hate to hear about him being so different off-camera. I hope that is not his true character. But you don't get where he is by not having an edge. He's a young, inexperienced, black man with a real shot at this. I keep thinking how the world might react if he became our leader. And I think it would be a positive message.

He would also have to be aware of precedent should he win. That's an enormous amount of pressure to do well.

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05-22-2008, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

What if you the experienced guy (older guy) was going to try and destroy your business once you left (or he got in power)... he even tells you this straight to your face.

Do you now take your chances with a guy that might not know everything, but has advisor's to help? Or the guy that you know for damn sure crush you when he gets in power?

Not sure myself - hard choice to make.

What if the younger man wants to tax the shit out of you cause you actually make a good living. I dont want to pay for healthcare for people who can't afford it. I can afford it and I pay for it now. I also don't want more programs to help people who dont want to work.

Maybe for those who have no money, it's easy to support people who want to tax people who have money, but I want less taxes. Neither party is going to do shit about our profession and you can see california already trying to tax it as proof.
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05-22-2008, 07:25 PM

Yunno, I like Baddog. But in this case I have to say you are too steeped in the way the world was to understand the way it's about to go.

Sure, there's plenty of rednecks that will not vote for Obama, but there's an awful lot of people that are going to make it a personal mission to get him into office. I don't think you've even begun to see the amount of rallying that's going to be around this guy.

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05-22-2008, 07:27 PM

2008 is going to be the year of the First Black President or the First Female President!

This is HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGEEEE!
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05-22-2008, 07:28 PM

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You got no clue about me fool.
Business never been better for me actually, and I am about launch one hella of a traffic network
TO bad your program won't be making the list!

PS you should fix the link to busty sage...
I went through your program the other day.

WAAAAGH! I got my own traffic and sales FOOL..the affiliate part is only gravy..about 10% of my sales are from affiliates
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05-22-2008, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by Pornwolf

Yunno, I like Baddog. But in this case I have to say you are too steeped in the way the world was to understand the way it's about to go.

Sure, there's plenty of rednecks that will not vote for Obama, but there's an awful lot of people that are going to make it a personal mission to get him into office. I don't think you've even begun to see the amount of rallying that's going to be around this guy.

finally some sense in this thread.. These redneck have no idea the FLOOD of people that will vote for OBAMA..and i mean MASSIVE get togethers, just to VOTEall the polls are from older people with a home phone..most young people ( most people in general have cellphones..which are NOT polled) The REAL numbers for OBAMA haven't even been seen yet
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05-22-2008, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by Rand

I'm so over the debate I don't know what to think.

Never has there been an election like this and it's come at a time when our country is in such bad shape. It's going to be a monumental task for whomever takes the Presidency. Each of the major candidates has their good and bad points. All you can do is vote for the candidate that you think would do the most good for our country both domestically and internationally.

I tend to lean toward Obama. I hate to hear about him being so different off-camera. I hope that is not his true character. But you don't get where he is by not having an edge. He's a young, inexperienced, black man with a real shot at this. I keep thinking how the world might react if he became our leader. And I think it would be a positive message.

He would also have to be aware of precedent should he win. That's an enormous amount of pressure to do well.

you speak the truth brutha
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05-22-2008, 08:38 PM

He just might win

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05-22-2008, 09:28 PM

bwahahahahahaha

mccain just got his own racist pastor dragged into this. the mud slingin is thick.

i have never voted and i am doing it this year just to vote for obama. i wonder how many other people will do just that too.
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05-22-2008, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by A1R3K

oh boy, thats not good. i don't like arrogant pricks.

at least the guy can spell and doesn't sound like a monkey taught to speak though.

How do you know he knows how to spell?
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05-22-2008, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

History? It hasn't happened yet.. How can you say Obama has a war History?

Or are you saying in History, new Presidents didn't pull out of wars? Which isn't the case. So I'm confused on what history I should check.

Name a war we were involved in that troops are not still there. Besides Nam.
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05-22-2008, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by A1R3K

bwahahahahahaha

mccain just got his own racist pastor dragged into this. the mud slingin is thick.

Yeah, damn. That is going to be hard to justify on the world stage. If we elect him we look worse than we ever could internationally because they can now say for sure that America is as bad as they feared we are.

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05-22-2008, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Nails

What if the younger man wants to tax the shit out of you cause you actually make a good living. I dont want to pay for healthcare for people who can't afford it. I can afford it and I pay for it now. I also don't want more programs to help people who dont want to work.

Maybe for those who have no money, it's easy to support people who want to tax people who have money, but I want less taxes. Neither party is going to do shit about our profession and you can see california already trying to tax it as proof.

All presidents have raised taxes.. they all lie about it.

All three want to screw with taxes, want something from the business man, have some type of health care reform idea, some idea about how to help the poor, different solutions to war/terrorism, and all three want amenity for illegals with still no public plans about the on going problem.

Only thing that stands out for me at this point is what McCain has said about the Internet.

And Cali passing this law against us is just another example of taxes increasing, under the power of a republicans. Not really a strong argument for the cause.

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05-22-2008, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

And Cali passing this law against us is just another example of taxes increasing, under the power of a republicans. Not really a strong argument for the cause.

What law is that?
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05-22-2008, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Name a war we were involved in that troops are not still there. Besides Nam.

Huh? We haven't really been in that many wars.. but here goes..

war of 1812
ww1
ww2
Nam

So we are still in?? Korea and Iraq...I think we are out of Panama, Bosnia, and Grenada... not that they were wars.

Your arguments are getting thin.

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05-22-2008, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by baddog

What law is that?

The porn tax law - not that I think it will pass, but Cali does go off the deep end sometimes too.

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05-22-2008, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

Huh? We haven't really been in that many wars.. but here goes..

war of 1812
ww1
ww2
Nam

So we are still in?? Korea and Iraq...I think we are out of Panama, Bosnia, and Grenada... not that they were wars.

Your arguments are getting thin.

Really? We don't have troops in Germany, Cuba, Italy, Japan . . . etc.
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05-22-2008, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Really? We don't have troops in Germany, Cuba, Italy, Japan . . . etc.

We don't occupy them.. we have troops in Canada too, but that has nothing to do with a president pulling out of a war or not.

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05-22-2008, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Really? We don't have troops in Germany, Cuba, Italy, Japan . . . etc.

We went to war with Cuba?

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05-22-2008, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

We don't occupy them.. we have troops in Canada too, but that has nothing to do with a president pulling out of a war or not.

His comment was totally taken out of context and you know it. All he was saying is that when the war is over we will have troops there like we do every fucking where else.

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We went to war with Cuba?

Dude, I know you are smarter than that. You mean to tell me you don't know why we occupy Cuba? You don't know what war we were in that Cuba may have been involved with?

I graduated high school in 71 and I don't have to look that up.
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05-23-2008, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by baddog

Really? We don't have troops in Germany, Cuba, Italy, Japan . . . etc.

Don't forget about

Korea

We pretty much have troops placed in any country that will have them for strategic reasons as well.
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05-23-2008, 09:40 AM

I love the false issues MSM plates for us. To bad neither has a plan to save the dollar besides "hope" and "charisma" Get ready for $15 dollar a gas next year.

Originally posted by A1R3K

bwahahahahahaha

mccain just got his own racist pastor dragged into this. the mud slingin is thick.

i have never voted and i am doing it this year just to vote for obama. i wonder how many other people will do just that too.
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05-23-2008, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls

I love the false issues MSM plates for us. To bad neither has a plan to save the dollar besides "hope" and "charisma" Get ready for $15 dollar a gas next year.

after july 15th i wont buy another fucking gallon of gas ever.

go electric everyone.

its the way to roll now.

fuck these assholes. i work hard for my money and i'm not gonna give it to the fucking government.
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05-23-2008, 09:48 AM

we have around 100,000 troops in Europe. Around 30,000 - 40,000 in Afghanistan. Who are we at war with again?

Originally posted by baddog

Really? We don't have troops in Germany, Cuba, Italy, Japan . . . etc.
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05-23-2008, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by baddog

His comment was totally taken out of context and you know it. All he was saying is that when the war is over we will have troops there like we do every fucking where else.

I made the comment, and it was in reference to pulling the troops out of 'war' after the president change. Which means, the president 'ended' a war - and has nothing to do if we still occupy the area. War is over - that's what the people want - that's what I stated.

You are twisting what I'm saying to come up with your own version of, something.

Originally posted by baddog

Dude, I know you are smarter than that. You mean to tell me you don't know why we occupy Cuba? You don't know what war we were in that Cuba may have been involved with?

I graduated high school in 71 and I don't have to look that up.

I know exactly what conflicts we have had with Cuba. I also know we didn't 'force-occupy' Cuba some 100+ years ago when the base was setup. Now in current day we may occupy the region, but that isn't because of a previous war.

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