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  • 420
    cuck
    • Mar 2003
    • 11571

    #51
    Originally posted by gamelinkjeff
    Besides blowing people....what are your skills?
    She didn't say she was any good at blowing.
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    • JA$ON
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2007
      • 1329

      #52
      Originally posted by 420
      Good info there J.

      OK, that...is simply amazing!!!!

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      • dillonaire
        Confirmed User
        • May 2009
        • 1795

        #53
        Originally posted by 420
        She didn't say she was any good at blowing.

        Good point and nothing worse than a bad BJ.
        .

        "Deja moo - The feeling you've heard this Bull before."

        Skype: jeffreydillon
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        • suesheboy
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2002
          • 5211

          #54
          I didn't jump on your ass when I got hurt (only few hundred) with one of your past recommendations and sat on the sidelines for the other issues thankfully.

          You have gone through hell in the past 7 or 8 years and my constructive recommendation was from the heart.

          Sit down with a headhunter or big HR person and hear what they have to say about your "brand".

          You are fishing with old worn out bait in a dieing pond. Admit failure with the old ways, design a new bait (including getting new skill sets like some basic programming) for the old pond that will also function when you travel to one of the new main streams.

          Sorry, but I would never hire you with the way you present yourself now.
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          • Tam
            Rude Bitch
            • Jan 2001
            • 8533

            #55
            Originally posted by JA$ON
            (For anyone looking for work in this biz)

            This is how I see things when hiring someone new?..

            There are 2 types of employees in this business. I call them "direct" and ?support".

            Direct: Someone DIRECTLY involved in profit generation who's worth to a company can very easily be quantified. What do they cost, how much profit do they generate?.simple. They are usually Affiliate reps, media buyers and people who can generate traffic. Aside from affiliate reps, anyone who is good at the other stuff will usually do it for themselves and become an affiliate as they will generally make FAR more (if they are decent) than any company will pay them in salary.

            Support: Necessary for a company to operate, but who's value can't be directly quantified in dollars and cents. Programmers, Designers, sys admins, assistants etc

            Which one are you??? If it is Support (which sounds like you are not) then getting a job is much more straight fwd. If it is Direct, there is some good news and some bad news.

            Affiliate reps: 90% of affiliate reps in this business could be replaced tomorrow. Having a rolodex of affiliates means very little. We ALL know each other and no good affiliate if going to point their traffic to a program that makes less money than where they send it now because they are friends with the rep. It may get you a test, but affiliates go where the highest EPC is, period. And the chance that a decent size affiliate has not tested the new program you are at, if it is in the same vertical, is slim.
            The affiliate reps that are worth their salt and deserve, and get, big salaries and commissions, are the ones who are true marketers. Ones who don?t just try to get affiliates to switch over to their program, but are able to look at the traffic, view ALL the pieces of the puzzle and find way for the affiliate to generate more sales from the same amount of traffic. Or to recognize where the affiliate may be leaving money on the table. Maybe there are additional sales to be had above and beyond what he / she already does coming from areas they never thought to look. THAT is what makes a good rep.

            Media buyers / traffic generation: Like I said, MOST people able to generate a profit doing these things do it for themselves, but if you can show you have the ability to generate profits (hard numbers, P&L?s from previous jobs etc) There are not to many companies that wont at least give you a shot with a average salary + commission. ANYONE worth their salt wants as much of their money to come from commission as possible. Nobody will pay a media buyer 250k salary, but I know more than a couple that make that and then some from commissions.

            The Problem: I know a LOT of people that have been around for a long time that jump from program to program asking for high base salaries. 6 mon ? 1 yr later, the owner realizes that they are costing more to have around than they are generating. They leave on ?good terms?, then jump to the next program. Each time the program and salary get a bit smaller till they disappear from this biz.

            Only one thing matters to people hiring an employee??.PROFIT

            If you are a ?direct? employee, you need to be able to show your prospective employer that having you around will make them more than they make now. Know a little about their operation. What skills do you have and how can you fit in. If you have a variety of skills, take a look at areas that they may be lacking and explain how you can fill that hole and how that will ultimately mean more money to the bottom line.
            This is extremely informative and things I have done and tried to do and so on - because I have in my head that the majority, if not every single word, that you are saying here are tools I have used and continue to.

            The trouble is, and this is not to say some of the newer startup companies I have settled in with are bad, some are very good, mean well and have every good intention - and some couldn't be further from any of that. But, having said this..

            Some of us know what the hell we are talking abut - MY end game is to always be a team player and work as hard as I can and run as hard as I can toward branding and making it my life's mission to know as much about them as I possibly can, about their business, genre and so on - so I don't have to be one f those reps that have to go ask someone over every little thing.

            I couldn't agree more also with the getting the current people to leave their very high paying deals to come over and pay attention to me - they need incentives and some of these new upstarts I have worked with a) either do NOT want to hear it, or b) they don't have the funds or staff or whatever to do that very thing - or c) they somehow think that because they built it, they will come - even if they have absolutely NOT one incentive to work with for a Rep worth their salt - if this one is the case, NO rep can push that program/company to the future of profitability.

            The program owners and reps have GOT to get on the same page and listen and learn, none of us are perfect or we'd all be millionaires, it takes a TEAM f people and a team that can function as a team and not as a bunch of arrogant fools that spin their wheels in one place to the point that when they look up after the foot stomping, they are broke and have nothing to show for it.

            They ALSO have to learn and listen that when you get a Rep, the best rep in the industry cannot turn a total upstart of people that are not known by ANYONE and make it turn into black overnight or even in a month or 2 months, it takes TIME. All of the threats, all of the stomping feet and all of the money in the world isn't going to make a program produce profits in a matter of a couple of weeks - no matter how much screaming and yelling is done.

            In closing, I couldn't agree with you more on almost literally everything you say - and if you have a good and cohesive team of people, which is needed - ONE person can't do it, no matter what! But you put a team together that can work together and support one another, you can brand and sell literally ANYTHING, but without that, you may as well go sit with your pennies in front of the tv and get a big fat ass, because that's all you will accomplish. A good TEAM!!

            What I am seeing a GREAT deal of right now and have started and stopped a few jobs because of it are a) people thinking it is a get rich quick thing (HAHAHAHAHAHA) - b) people thinking they can hide and cheat and scam and they won't get caught - c) people who think that they can rule with an iron fist and threaten people to make them money - d) people who just don't take it serious and realize this is porn, sure, but it is a LOT of very very hard work and a LOT of discipline is needed and patience - so they all walk or they lose perfectly good reps - and then there are just sometimes when you have a perfectly good company and a perfectly good rep - but for whatever reason, they didn't mesh together so they part ways and remain good friends and in some cases, they get down the road and find a perfect way to work together.

            Either way it goes - I am just a little over being the Industry Washing Machine - so I am at a point now where you are going to have to show ME that you are legit - and that you aren't going to take another single one of my affiliates for a ride and that is getting tougher and tougher - in some cases..

            But what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger - as reps and human beings - I've been tested and tested again and I somehow manage to stay steady - I don't run and hide - it's not my style - I love this industry and the people in it, even the bad ones, they test me and keep me on my toes. lol

            I (Reps in General) are your front people, they know what's going on, they know what is needed, they know who will do what, when, where and how - if they even wake up in the morning, they know this and if they don't then they need to go learn it - but if they are your front, it is their JOB and they should have the respect of knowing what your people want and need, they are the ones in the trenches, so to speak!
            Get in Touch on Telegram if you need a hardworker - (since 1999) - All About Me!

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            • EddyTheDog
              Just Doing My Own Thing
              • Jan 2011
              • 25433

              #56
              Originally posted by Tam
              This is extremely informative and things I have done and tried to do and so on - because I have in my head that the majority, if not every single word, that you are saying here are tools I have used and continue to.

              The trouble is, and this is not to say some of the newer startup companies I have settled in with are bad, some are very good, mean well and have every good intention - and some couldn't be further from any of that. But, having said this..

              Some of us know what the hell we are talking abut - MY end game is to always be a team player and work as hard as I can and run as hard as I can toward branding and making it my life's mission to know as much about them as I possibly can, about their business, genre and so on - so I don't have to be one f those reps that have to go ask someone over every little thing.

              I couldn't agree more also with the getting the current people to leave their very high paying deals to come over and pay attention to me - they need incentives and some of these new upstarts I have worked with a) either do NOT want to hear it, or b) they don't have the funds or staff or whatever to do that very thing - or c) they somehow think that because they built it, they will come - even if they have absolutely NOT one incentive to work with for a Rep worth their salt - if this one is the case, NO rep can push that program/company to the future of profitability.

              The program owners and reps have GOT to get on the same page and listen and learn, none of us are perfect or we'd all be millionaires, it takes a TEAM f people and a team that can function as a team and not as a bunch of arrogant fools that spin their wheels in one place to the point that when they look up after the foot stomping, they are broke and have nothing to show for it.

              They ALSO have to learn and listen that when you get a Rep, the best rep in the industry cannot turn a total upstart of people that are not known by ANYONE and make it turn into black overnight or even in a month or 2 months, it takes TIME. All of the threats, all of the stomping feet and all of the money in the world isn't going to make a program produce profits in a matter of a couple of weeks - no matter how much screaming and yelling is done.

              In closing, I couldn't agree with you more on almost literally everything you say - and if you have a good and cohesive team of people, which is needed - ONE person can't do it, no matter what! But you put a team together that can work together and support one another, you can brand and sell literally ANYTHING, but without that, you may as well go sit with your pennies in front of the tv and get a big fat ass, because that's all you will accomplish. A good TEAM!!

              What I am seeing a GREAT deal of right now and have started and stopped a few jobs because of it are a) people thinking it is a get rich quick thing (HAHAHAHAHAHA) - b) people thinking they can hide and cheat and scam and they won't get caught - c) people who think that they can rule with an iron fist and threaten people to make them money - d) people who just don't take it serious and realize this is porn, sure, but it is a LOT of very very hard work and a LOT of discipline is needed and patience - so they all walk or they lose perfectly good reps - and then there are just sometimes when you have a perfectly good company and a perfectly good rep - but for whatever reason, they didn't mesh together so they part ways and remain good friends and in some cases, they get down the road and find a perfect way to work together.

              Either way it goes - I am just a little over being the Industry Washing Machine - so I am at a point now where you are going to have to show ME that you are legit - and that you aren't going to take another single one of my affiliates for a ride and that is getting tougher and tougher - in some cases..

              But what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger - as reps and human beings - I've been tested and tested again and I somehow manage to stay steady - I don't run and hide - it's not my style - I love this industry and the people in it, even the bad ones, they test me and keep me on my toes. lol

              I (Reps in General) are your front people, they know what's going on, they know what is needed, they know who will do what, when, where and how - if they even wake up in the morning, they know this and if they don't then they need to go learn it - but if they are your front, it is their JOB and they should have the respect of knowing what your people want and need, they are the ones in the trenches, so to speak!
              Fuck me - It's like a wall of words - I have marked this thread as something to do when I am sober...

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              • Tam
                Rude Bitch
                • Jan 2001
                • 8533

                #57
                Originally posted by suesheboy
                I didn't jump on your ass when I got hurt (only few hundred) with one of your past recommendations and sat on the sidelines for the other issues thankfully.

                You have gone through hell in the past 7 or 8 years and my constructive recommendation was from the heart.

                Sit down with a headhunter or big HR person and hear what they have to say about your "brand".

                You are fishing with old worn out bait in a dieing pond. Admit failure with the old ways, design a new bait (including getting new skill sets like some basic programming) for the old pond that will also function when you travel to one of the new main streams.

                Sorry, but I would never hire you with the way you present yourself now.
                Let's be honest, all the other times I have come here and asked in a very professional way, humble, strong, every which way I could think of and all of the previous times in a very professional manner, did you ever one time offer me a job then? Nope, you didn't - I love you, always have and I hate that someone I was around ever ripped anyone off, but I didn't do it -

                And I also have taken assessment tests on a few local jobs I have applied for and they have been very impressed with my communication and other skills - and I was just me - I can be me and a good brand of me and any other brand is fake and untrue - I am not that person - I am who I am, you like e or you hate me - some have done both at the same time but at the end of the day they know I am who I am and they get honest and forward with me.

                There was a time, when you felt the same way, you told me this yourself, just be who you are - that's how I know to be!
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                • Tam
                  Rude Bitch
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 8533

                  #58
                  Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                  Fuck me - It's like a wall of words - I have marked this thread as something to do when I am sober...
                  HE started the wall of words - bad person to start that with I guess - lmao

                  Sorry hon.
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                  • CamTraffic
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 6538

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Tam
                    You both couldn't afford me if you put BOTH your paychecks together.
                    WOW!!! you're that hot? wait... what?




















                    .






























                    I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up.
                    Email me HERE!

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                    • Tam
                      Rude Bitch
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 8533

                      #60
                      Originally posted by CamTraffic
                      WOW!!! you're that hot? wait... what?



                      Yayyy - you found a picture that wasn't hidden - I knew you was a smart guy!!
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                      • PornDiscounts-R
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1272

                        #61
                        Originally posted by JA$ON
                        (For anyone looking for work in this biz)

                        This is how I see things when hiring someone new?..

                        There are 2 types of employees in this business. I call them "direct" and ?support".

                        Direct: Someone DIRECTLY involved in profit generation who's worth to a company can very easily be quantified. What do they cost, how much profit do they generate?.simple. They are usually Affiliate reps, media buyers and people who can generate traffic. Aside from affiliate reps, anyone who is good at the other stuff will usually do it for themselves and become an affiliate as they will generally make FAR more (if they are decent) than any company will pay them in salary.

                        Support: Necessary for a company to operate, but who's value can't be directly quantified in dollars and cents. Programmers, Designers, sys admins, assistants etc

                        Which one are you??? If it is Support (which sounds like you are not) then getting a job is much more straight fwd. If it is Direct, there is some good news and some bad news.

                        Affiliate reps: 90% of affiliate reps in this business could be replaced tomorrow. Having a rolodex of affiliates means very little. We ALL know each other and no good affiliate if going to point their traffic to a program that makes less money than where they send it now because they are friends with the rep. It may get you a test, but affiliates go where the highest EPC is, period. And the chance that a decent size affiliate has not tested the new program you are at, if it is in the same vertical, is slim.
                        The affiliate reps that are worth their salt and deserve, and get, big salaries and commissions, are the ones who are true marketers. Ones who don?t just try to get affiliates to switch over to their program, but are able to look at the traffic, view ALL the pieces of the puzzle and find way for the affiliate to generate more sales from the same amount of traffic. Or to recognize where the affiliate may be leaving money on the table. Maybe there are additional sales to be had above and beyond what he / she already does coming from areas they never thought to look. THAT is what makes a good rep.

                        Media buyers / traffic generation: Like I said, MOST people able to generate a profit doing these things do it for themselves, but if you can show you have the ability to generate profits (hard numbers, P&L?s from previous jobs etc) There are not to many companies that wont at least give you a shot with a average salary + commission. ANYONE worth their salt wants as much of their money to come from commission as possible. Nobody will pay a media buyer 250k salary, but I know more than a couple that make that and then some from commissions.

                        The Problem: I know a LOT of people that have been around for a long time that jump from program to program asking for high base salaries. 6 mon ? 1 yr later, the owner realizes that they are costing more to have around than they are generating. They leave on ?good terms?, then jump to the next program. Each time the program and salary get a bit smaller till they disappear from this biz.

                        Only one thing matters to people hiring an employee??.PROFIT

                        If you are a ?direct? employee, you need to be able to show your prospective employer that having you around will make them more than they make now. Know a little about their operation. What skills do you have and how can you fit in. If you have a variety of skills, take a look at areas that they may be lacking and explain how you can fill that hole and how that will ultimately mean more money to the bottom line.
                        Awesome post, thank you.
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                        • CDSmith
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • May 2001
                          • 51460

                          #62
                          Originally posted by JA$ON
                          Only one thing matters to people hiring an employee??.PROFIT
                          Come now, let's not underestimate the power of the blowjob. Plenty have hired for side perks over pure profit.

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                          • JA$ON
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1329

                            #63
                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                            Come now, let's not underestimate the power of the blowjob. Plenty have hired for side perks over pure profit.

                            Im sorry, I must have fallen asleep and woken up in a world where profits CANT by blow jobs anymore ;)

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                            • CDSmith
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • May 2001
                              • 51460

                              #64
                              Originally posted by JA$ON
                              Im sorry, I must have fallen asleep and woken up in a world where profits CANT by blow jobs anymore ;)
                              What exactly do you imagine the hot secretary wages are for?

                              Helloo? Anyone hoome?
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                              ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!!

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                              • Tam
                                Rude Bitch
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 8533

                                #65
                                Originally posted by JA$ON
                                Im sorry, I must have fallen asleep and woken up in a world where profits CANT by blow jobs anymore ;)
                                OR you must be married - rotfl

                                SO SO Sorry, I couldn't walk away form that one, and I seriously tried. lol
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                                • 10 Inch Dick
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • May 2014
                                  • 102

                                  #66
                                  12 clicks cash is hiring

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                                  • EddyTheDog
                                    Just Doing My Own Thing
                                    • Jan 2011
                                    • 25433

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by 10 Inch Dick
                                    12 clicks cash is hiring
                                    If that's the alternative then I would recommend going back to Blow Jobs...

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                                    • PaperstreetWinston
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2014
                                      • 2604

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                                      The good news is that it's me - The bad news is that I am gay...
                                      eheh oh eddie....
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                                      • NatalieK
                                        Natalie K
                                        • Apr 2010
                                        • 20123

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Tam
                                        I am working for any time frame - part - full - whatever - I have bills to pay and probably one of the few not afraid to SAY it out loud. lol
                                        Originally posted by Tam
                                        I can't think of a single one, can you?
                                        You can skype us anytime, we're in Spain living on only our own income, bills to pay, plenty of content, a program wanting to make money while giving people what they want

                                        Good luck on your work hunt hun x
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                                        • NatalieK
                                          Natalie K
                                          • Apr 2010
                                          • 20123

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by CamTraffic
                                          WOW!!! you're that hot? wait... what?
                                          CamTraffic, I'll remember not to sign up to cam with your traffic, if this is the stupid trolling you do on a business thread. Considering Tam looks more sexy than most of the girls on most of the cam sites these days
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                                          • jimmycooper
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2010
                                            • 4016

                                            #71
                                            Given her multiple mental disorders, she should apply for social security disability insurance.

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                                            • Tam
                                              Rude Bitch
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 8533

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                              You can skype us anytime, we're in Spain living on only our own income, bills to pay, plenty of content, a program wanting to make money while giving people what they want

                                              Good luck on your work hunt hun x
                                              Very sweet of you, thank you very much.
                                              Get in Touch on Telegram if you need a hardworker - (since 1999) - All About Me!

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                                              • faxxaff
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 2134

                                                #73
                                                Very sorry to hear about your bad luck in this business. Hope you may find a patron that suits your profile. Good luck.
                                                Asian Babes

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                                                • tuffruff
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 352

                                                  #74
                                                  Saw this post and thought it must have been something replied to from the 90's Was like watching a rerun of the Andy Griffith show, yes old and you have seen it many times but the outcome always comes out the same.. Heya Suesheboy long time old friend
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                                                  • Tam
                                                    Rude Bitch
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 8533

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by faxxaff
                                                    Very sorry to hear about your bad luck in this business. Hope you may find a patron that suits your profile. Good luck.
                                                    Thanks hon - things work out as they should and they are this time as well.... but thanks for your support.
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                                                    • Tam
                                                      Rude Bitch
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 8533

                                                      #76
                                                      Kicky kicky!!

                                                      A few potentials, waiting for that perfect perfect fit. ;)
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                                                      • ottopottomouse
                                                        She is ugly, bad luck.
                                                        • Jan 2010
                                                        • 13177

                                                        #77
                                                        Probably could have made a months wages in blowjobs by now.
                                                        ↑ see post ↑
                                                        13101

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                                                        • TeenCat
                                                          Too lazy to set a koala
                                                          • Jan 2007
                                                          • 16139

                                                          #78
                                                          here you go girl

                                                          http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1151410


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                                                          • Google Expert
                                                            Webmaster
                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                            • 14294

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by suesheboy
                                                            remove the "Rude Bitch" logo and tagline.

                                                            Re-brand yourself as the professional helpful person
                                                            This is the best post in this thread.

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                                                            • Google Expert
                                                              Webmaster
                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                              • 14294

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by jimmycooper
                                                              Given her multiple mental disorders, she should apply for social security disability insurance.
                                                              This is the second best post.

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                                                              • Tam
                                                                Rude Bitch
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 8533

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by TeenCat
                                                                Thanks hon - I put my resume in with that one as well - although one of those are alittle suspect to me - so I also put out a bit of a warning.
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                                                                • Socks
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 8475

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Tam
                                                                  the only things I DO NOT do is design
                                                                  Looking for a designer that get things done ASAP? <--- sig.

                                                                  /thread.

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                                                                  • VikingMan
                                                                    Exploiting human weakness
                                                                    • Jan 2008
                                                                    • 6862

                                                                    #83
                                                                    to be successful you have to be willing to do what others are not willing to do

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                                                                    • L-Pink
                                                                      working on my tan
                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                      • 39151

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Muad'Dib
                                                                      This is the best post in this thread.
                                                                      I second that

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                                                                      • Tam
                                                                        Rude Bitch
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 8533

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by VikingMan
                                                                        to be successful you have to be willing to do what others are not willing to do
                                                                        Exactly - and to do this, sometimes you have to be willing to get out of the box to get a bit of attention that you were not otherwise getting! I've never been one to do things the conventional way - who wants to be part of the crowd, I want to get out ahead of it.
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                                                                        • Relentless
                                                                          www.EngineFood.com
                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                          • 5697

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                                          (For anyone looking for work in this biz)

                                                                          This is how I see things when hiring someone new?..

                                                                          There are 2 types of employees in this business. I call them "direct" and ?support".

                                                                          Direct: Someone DIRECTLY involved in profit generation who's worth to a company can very easily be quantified. What do they cost, how much profit do they generate?.simple. They are usually Affiliate reps, media buyers and people who can generate traffic. Aside from affiliate reps, anyone who is good at the other stuff will usually do it for themselves and become an affiliate as they will generally make FAR more (if they are decent) than any company will pay them in salary.

                                                                          Support: Necessary for a company to operate, but who's value can't be directly quantified in dollars and cents. Programmers, Designers, sys admins, assistants etc

                                                                          Which one are you??? If it is Support (which sounds like you are not) then getting a job is much more straight fwd. If it is Direct, there is some good news and some bad news.

                                                                          Affiliate reps: 90% of affiliate reps in this business could be replaced tomorrow. Having a rolodex of affiliates means very little. We ALL know each other and no good affiliate if going to point their traffic to a program that makes less money than where they send it now because they are friends with the rep. It may get you a test, but affiliates go where the highest EPC is, period. And the chance that a decent size affiliate has not tested the new program you are at, if it is in the same vertical, is slim.
                                                                          The affiliate reps that are worth their salt and deserve, and get, big salaries and commissions, are the ones who are true marketers. Ones who don?t just try to get affiliates to switch over to their program, but are able to look at the traffic, view ALL the pieces of the puzzle and find way for the affiliate to generate more sales from the same amount of traffic. Or to recognize where the affiliate may be leaving money on the table. Maybe there are additional sales to be had above and beyond what he / she already does coming from areas they never thought to look. THAT is what makes a good rep.

                                                                          Media buyers / traffic generation: Like I said, MOST people able to generate a profit doing these things do it for themselves, but if you can show you have the ability to generate profits (hard numbers, P&L?s from previous jobs etc) There are not to many companies that wont at least give you a shot with a average salary + commission. ANYONE worth their salt wants as much of their money to come from commission as possible. Nobody will pay a media buyer 250k salary, but I know more than a couple that make that and then some from commissions.

                                                                          The Problem: I know a LOT of people that have been around for a long time that jump from program to program asking for high base salaries. 6 mon ? 1 yr later, the owner realizes that they are costing more to have around than they are generating. They leave on ?good terms?, then jump to the next program. Each time the program and salary get a bit smaller till they disappear from this biz.

                                                                          Only one thing matters to people hiring an employee??.PROFIT

                                                                          If you are a ?direct? employee, you need to be able to show your prospective employer that having you around will make them more than they make now. Know a little about their operation. What skills do you have and how can you fit in. If you have a variety of skills, take a look at areas that they may be lacking and explain how you can fill that hole and how that will ultimately mean more money to the bottom line.
                                                                          Terrific post.

                                                                          If you are "support", the same rules generally apply, usually all that changes is you need to show employers how you can save them money vs how you can earn them money, with greater efficiency, saved time or other ways to conserve resources.


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                                                                          • PornDude
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                                                                            • Jul 2008
                                                                            • 3084

                                                                            #87
                                                                            If after 7 years in business you still need to ask to get hired you are doing something wrong dear, beach, or how ever you want to be called. Just my 2
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                                                                            • Tam
                                                                              Rude Bitch
                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                              • 8533

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by PikaPoka
                                                                              If after 7 years in business you still need to ask to get hired you are doing something wrong dear, beach, or how ever you want to be called. Just my 2
                                                                              How do you propose I get a job if I don't ask for one - regardless of how long I've been working or not working? I thought to get a job you have to apply/ask for one - but maybe I am doing something wrong all these years?
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                                                                              • BlackCrayon
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 19634

                                                                                #89
                                                                                nevermind..
                                                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                • CamTraffic
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                                                  • 6538

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                                                  The Problem: I know a LOT of people that have been around for a long time that jump from program to program asking for high base salaries. 6 mon – 1 yr later, the owner realizes that they are costing more to have around than they are generating. They leave on “good terms”, then jump to the next program. Each time the program and salary get a bit smaller till they disappear from this biz.
                                                                                  My thoughts exactly. Hard to trust Reps that've been going from one program to another... many times over.

                                                                                  No offense Tam, but asking for a job on GFY is probably not the smartest thing to do.

                                                                                  Originally posted by Tam
                                                                                  How do you propose I get a job if I don't ask for one - regardless of how long I've been working or not working? I thought to get a job you have to apply/ask for one - but maybe I am doing something wrong all these years?

                                                                                  When you're a good Rep and without a job, you usually get contacted. Shit, you even get contact even if you have a job.
                                                                                  Did you try getting in touch with Eddie from xindustryjobs ? I've met him a couple of times at shows, real nice guy, you should email him.
                                                                                  Last edited by CamTraffic; 10-10-2014, 07:40 AM.
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