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  • eurabia
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2006
    • 289

    #1

    WTF is Wrong With AEBN?

    Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?
  • ManHuntSteve
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2008
    • 147

    #2
    Please explain.
    Affiliate Manager - Manhunt/On The Hunt/Maverick Men
    We have Amateur Gay Porn and Gay Virgin Porn
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    • Klen
      • Aug 2006
      • 32234

      #3
      He want to say they pay toomuch for ppc beacuse of bidding to non profitable keywords.

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      • fusionx
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2003
        • 4618

        #4
        Originally posted by eurabia
        Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?

        There's no money in search engine marketing.

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        • FreeHugeMovies
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2001
          • 14141

          #5
          Originally posted by eurabia
          Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?
          I'm sure AEBN is making a profit from it. Want my AEBN ref code?

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          • Jace
            FBOP Class Of 2013
            • Jan 2004
            • 35562

            #6
            hahahahahahaha

            I know the guy, and I know what they make, and if they fired him it would be a HUGE mistake

            suck you don't get it ;)

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            • nation-x
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2004
              • 5370

              #7
              He's mad that he can't compete

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              • Fat Panda
                Porn is Dead. Move along.
                • Aug 2006
                • 13296

                #8
                oh jeez, ppc

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                • Sebastian Sands
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 5223

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jace
                  hahahahahahaha

                  I know the guy, and I know what they make, and if they fired him it would be a HUGE mistake

                  suck you don't get it ;)
                  He should be fired for telling you how much they make, and you shouldn't get him in trouble by posting that here.

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                  • GatorB
                    The Demon & 12clicks
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 18208

                    #10
                    Originally posted by eurabia
                    Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?
                    How do you know he is paying $2? You have no way of knowing that.

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                    • who
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 19593

                      #11
                      "Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords"

                      I know you want to sound like you 'know something' - but trust me, it's not working.

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                      • Barefootsies
                        Choice is an Illusion
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 42635

                        #12
                        This thread delivers...


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                        • Jace
                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 35562

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sebastian Sands
                          He should be fired for telling you how much they make, and you shouldn't get him in trouble by posting that here.
                          well, it isn't like I know an exact figure, LOL...but I do know they aren't hurtin

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                          • tiger
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 6986

                            #14
                            I'm sure AEBN knows what they are doing. Why do you care anyway?

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                            • Jace
                              FBOP Class Of 2013
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 35562

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GatorB
                              How do you know he is paying $2? You have no way of knowing that.
                              didn't you know, every_single porn keyword on google is $2, they have been running that special for years now

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                              • eurabia
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 289

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Jace
                                hahahahahahaha

                                I know the guy, and I know what they make, and if they fired him it would be a HUGE mistake

                                suck you don't get it ;)
                                Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

                                Look, this is their ad:

                                Top Gay Porn Series
                                Watch adult movies online now
                                Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
                                www.MovieMonster.com

                                Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

                                Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

                                He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.
                                Last edited by eurabia; 05-19-2008, 10:43 AM.

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                                • Andy Servers4Less
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 922

                                  #17
                                  umm sig spot??
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                                  • Jace
                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 35562

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by eurabia
                                    Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

                                    Look, this is their ad:

                                    Top Gay Porn Series
                                    Watch adult movies online now
                                    Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
                                    www.MovieMonster.com

                                    Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

                                    Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

                                    He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.
                                    I don't lie or make shit up, EVER, and I don't appreciate the accusation


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                                    • okok
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 502

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by eurabia
                                      Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

                                      Look, this is their ad:

                                      Top Gay Porn Series
                                      Watch adult movies online now
                                      Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
                                      www.MovieMonster.com

                                      Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

                                      Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

                                      He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.
                                      Wouldn't GAY ads on STRAIGHT keywords have LOOOOOW clickthru but HIIIIIGH conversion? Sounds like a decent strategy?

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                                      • Jace
                                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 35562

                                        #20
                                        btw, if you have issues with any of what AEBN is going, you can call your google rep and complain

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                                        • GatorB
                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 18208

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by eurabia
                                          Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

                                          Look, this is their ad:

                                          Top Gay Porn Series
                                          Watch adult movies online now
                                          Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
                                          www.MovieMonster.com

                                          Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

                                          Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

                                          He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.
                                          Ok first it's $2 now it's 90¢. So which is it and how do you know?

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                                          • Adam_OC3
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2008
                                            • 320

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by okok
                                            Wouldn't GAY ads on STRAIGHT keywords have LOOOOOW clickthru but HIIIIIGH conversion? Sounds like a decent strategy?
                                            Seems like a good point to me, if you don't click they don't pay.

                                            If you happen to want a gay site then they don't have any competition.
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                                            • TheDoc
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 13827

                                              #23
                                              I buy this exact traffic and have for awhile now. 80% of the people buying these related words are losing hard on at least 50% of the purchased words. It's clear to see they are buying volume and overall that massive exposure turns a profit. Volume is god after all.

                                              But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should.

                                              Even more so when a good number of the phrases people have purchased for, years.. simply don't turn a profit, no matter what vod/wl solution you use.

                                              Hell, some vod solutions don't even provide enough stats to let you match that data up enough to know if it is turning a profit or not. So how the hell anyone buys words for them is beyond me.
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                                              • IntenseJerry
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2007
                                                • 785

                                                #24
                                                I do well with AEBN... Liz Wright rocks!
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                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                  • 28609

                                                  #25
                                                  i dont do adwords much but they could just be buying ads at a loss in order to make people like yourself give up on looking to bid on those terms, or they could be "tasting" each keyword to get an idea of value. any number of things , including just straight making money
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                                                  • Ron Bennett
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                    • 1653

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                    ...But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should...
                                                    Perhaps that's intentional - force others to pay more than they would otherwise; raise the barrier of entry to competitors.

                                                    And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all.

                                                    Ron
                                                    Domagon - Website Management and Domain Name Sales

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                                                    • kristin
                                                      GOO!
                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 9768

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Ron Bennett
                                                      Perhaps that's intentional - force others to pay more than they would otherwise; raise the barrier of entry to competitors.

                                                      And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all.

                                                      Ron
                                                      I have known of companies (not saying AEBN is doing it at all) that have paid those prices and lost only to force competition out.

                                                      The other thing is a lot of listings are AEBN's WMs, not AEBN themselves. So the WMs must be making some good cash with AEBN to keep forking over those prices.

                                                      And yes, VOD keywords are that expensive.
                                                      Vacares rules.

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                                                      • TheDoc
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 13827

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Ron Bennett
                                                        Perhaps that's intentional - force others to pay more than they would otherwise; raise the barrier of entry to competitors.

                                                        And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all.

                                                        Ron

                                                        See, you can't 'force' it to happen, it happens because people don't know 'how' to use Adwords. Nobody forces me out with the higher prices, it just makes it so I buy less trash words that don't produce very well anyway.

                                                        You can tell, very easily by looking, if the correct matching is made on the keywords, related ad, url, and landing page - and very quickly see and know what the quality score would be.
                                                        Last edited by TheDoc; 05-19-2008, 02:14 PM.
                                                        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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                                                        • eurabia
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 289

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                          I buy this exact traffic and have for awhile now. 80% of the people buying these related words are losing hard on at least 50% of the purchased words. It's clear to see they are buying volume and overall that massive exposure turns a profit. Volume is god after all.

                                                          But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should.

                                                          Even more so when a good number of the phrases people have purchased for, years.. simply don't turn a profit, no matter what vod/wl solution you use.

                                                          Hell, some vod solutions don't even provide enough stats to let you match that data up enough to know if it is turning a profit or not. So how the hell anyone buys words for them is beyond me.
                                                          Ding, ding, ding. We have a 2-d post from someone who knows what they're talking about! (the first was from me

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                                                          • eurabia
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                            • 289

                                                            #30
                                                            ...bump...

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                                                            • eurabia
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                              • 289

                                                              #31
                                                              looks like they got the wind of this and they changed up their ad now from gay to straight. ok, thats progress. now if you'd only stop bidding insane amounts per click - youd stop burning money.

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                                                              • Tjeezers
                                                                Webmaster
                                                                • Mar 2007
                                                                • 16604

                                                                #32
                                                                I don't understand the fuzzz, let them burn cash, they don't get traffic from me anyway, so i don't mind their budget, non of my business. If one of my top sponsors who i make good cash with does this, i would perhaps think like you do, but still, whats the background idea of starting this post?

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                                                                • fusionx
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                  • 4618

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by eurabia
                                                                  looks like they got the wind of this and they changed up their ad now from gay to straight. ok, thats progress. now if you'd only stop bidding insane amounts per click - youd stop burning money.
                                                                  You truly have no clue

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                                                                  • eurabia
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                    • 289

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by fusionx
                                                                    You truly have no clue
                                                                    care to elaborate, 5-word wonder?

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                                                                    • Jace
                                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                      • 35562

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by fusionx
                                                                      You truly have no clue
                                                                      and how the hell would you know anything?

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                                                                      • eurabia
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                                        • 289

                                                                        #36
                                                                        boring...

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                                                                        • eurabia
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                          • 289

                                                                          #37
                                                                          bump........

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                                                                          • eurabia
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                                            • 289

                                                                            #38
                                                                            bump......

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