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  • NewOldPlayer
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jan 2013
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    #1

    I know this will sound racist, but...

    I notice in tv commercials, there is the "smart" character and the "dumb" character, for some simple comedy relief.

    In almost every commercial now, when black actors are cast, the black actor always portrays the "smart" character and or the character in charge with the higher knowledge. In that same commercial, the fall guy, the "dumb" role, is always played by a white actor.

    In a commercial where a black actor is cast, I rarely see the black actor doing something stupid, buying the wrong product, or isn't the owner, boss or representative of the business being advertised.

    I always see plenty of dumb ass white folks making mistakes and playing the role of the fall guy. It's amazing how dumb white people are around black people in real life, so I guess they have to keep that notion flowing in commercials as well.

    Not all commercials, but I would est at least 80 to 90% of the commercials that have black actors in them, black actors play the dominant intelligent role.

    Bottom line is this, is the black community so overly sensitive that if a commercial came out where the black actor did something stupid vs what the white actor did, the entire black community would rise together and complain and boycott the product and television station that broadcast it?

    Are companies afraid to cast black actors in the comedic fall guy role?

    Yes, I know it's "white world" and whites own all the businesses and are all evil, blah, blah, blah, but if all of us can't laugh at ourselves, then how messed up are we all? A commercial can't feature a black man choosing the wrong detergent when the white man chooses the correct one because that is racist? Must black roles always be the correct role, the leading role, the role of reason, and never playing the other side of the coin?

    I would think the black community would be upset with all the image coddling white America is giving them. You never see many Latin Americans in commercials, and the USA is over 1/6 Latino. That's 50 million plus Latino population vs 39 million black population, yet there are far more black actors in commercials than Latinos and when black actors are featured, they are most always in the role of reason.

    I think its sad that the intelligent black community won't tolerate a black actor in the fall guy roll in commercials where white actors are also featured. All this racial "tip toeing" is creating the opposite effect in the common goal of equality and creating fear within the way products are advertised.
  • Seth Manson
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    • Jul 2010
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    #2
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    • Captain Kawaii
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2007
      • 6748

      #3
      I agree for the most part. Pandering is never a good thing but a positive image has to come from somewhere I guess. Kanye and Suge Knight are not very good role models imho. Of course neither is Bieber boy.

      I see the same thing with Latino-focused advertising but I think that is changing. Until now it has been a separate society in a way, sitting right alongside mainstream American society. Now there is more integration as new generations are born. Hopefully for US it is a good thing.

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      • mopek1
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2004
        • 3198

        #4
        Yeah the minority is rarely the dumb character in advertising which I understand.

        What would be better is having no dumb characters.

        Remember the commercial, "Where's the beef?" ... you can make good commercials without making someone else look inferior in some way.

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        • wehateporn
          Promoting Debate on GFY
          • Apr 2007
          • 27176

          #5
          They don't want to do anything wacist

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          • Captain Kawaii
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            • Oct 2007
            • 6748

            #6
            Originally posted by mopek1
            Yeah the minority is rarely the dumb character in advertising which I understand.

            What would be better is having no dumb characters.

            Remember the commercial, "Where's the beef?" ... you can make good commercials without making someone else look inferior in some way.
            I would hope for clever and funny as well.

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            • Klen
              • Aug 2006
              • 32234

              #7
              I hate "dumb" commercials,for example there was recent ad where basically "young people" were calling out "old people" how they hate them and being envy because they re "young". Annoying as fuck.

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              • Jel
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2007
                • 6904

                #8
                who cares? they do the same with women portrayed as smart, and men portrayed as dumb cunts who can't tie their own shoelaces without female help. If it helps with their insecurities, have at it is what I say.

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                • mopek1
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                  • Jun 2004
                  • 3198

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jel
                  who cares? they do the same with women portrayed as smart, and men portrayed as dumb cunts who can't tie their own shoelaces without female help. If it helps with their insecurities, have at it is what I say.
                  You're right. I see that too. It's just annoying.

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                  • RandyRandy
                    Clips still sell!
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1708

                    #10
                    Hasn't it always been that way? Even in TV series. Going way back to Sanford & Son, All in the Family, later Benson - the Black characters were hip, sassy, intelligent - the Whites were racist, foolish, uncool. Jesus, if you were a white character on Sanford & Son you had the IQ of Corky. Remember the unhip, white cop?

                    Self-hating Whites, always the losers in the Politically Correct Parade.

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                    • mineistaken
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                      • Apr 2007
                      • 29656

                      #11
                      Welcome to white guilter liberal scum pol;it correct world. Disgrace.

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                      • Tom_PM
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                        • Feb 2005
                        • 16443

                        #12
                        Commercials are best enjoyed muted and ignored. Like all ads. Now lets get busy advertising!
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                        • Rochard
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                          • Dec 2001
                          • 75733

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wehateporn
                          They don't want to do anything wacist
                          Exactly.

                          The funny thing is that whites will become the minority in the near future, during our lifetimes. What happens then?
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                          • brassmonkey
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                            • Sep 2005
                            • 77385

                            #14
                            dont worry when the tv show comes back on all is right in the universe.
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                            • slapass
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                              • Nov 2002
                              • 14625

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rochard
                              Exactly.

                              The funny thing is that whites will become the minority in the near future, during our lifetimes. What happens then?
                              Whites are 77% of the USA. People have been saying this forever but as people get educated their brithrate drops.

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                              • Jel
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 6904

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                Commercials are best enjoyed muted and ignored. Like all ads. Now lets get busy advertising!

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                                • blackmonsters
                                  Making PHP work
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 20992

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by NewOldPlayer
                                  I notice in tv commercials, there is the "smart" character and the "dumb" character, for some simple comedy relief.

                                  In almost every commercial now, when black actors are cast, the black actor always portrays the "smart" character and or the character in charge with the higher knowledge. In that same commercial, the fall guy, the "dumb" role, is always played by a white actor.

                                  In a commercial where a black actor is cast, I rarely see the black actor doing something stupid, buying the wrong product, or isn't the owner, boss or representative of the business being advertised.

                                  I always see plenty of dumb ass white folks making mistakes and playing the role of the fall guy. It's amazing how dumb white people are around black people in real life, so I guess they have to keep that notion flowing in commercials as well.

                                  Not all commercials, but I would est at least 80 to 90% of the commercials that have black actors in them, black actors play the dominant intelligent role.

                                  Bottom line is this, is the black community so overly sensitive that if a commercial came out where the black actor did something stupid vs what the white actor did, the entire black community would rise together and complain and boycott the product and television station that broadcast it?

                                  Are companies afraid to cast black actors in the comedic fall guy role?

                                  Yes, I know it's "white world" and whites own all the businesses and are all evil, blah, blah, blah, but if all of us can't laugh at ourselves, then how messed up are we all? A commercial can't feature a black man choosing the wrong detergent when the white man chooses the correct one because that is racist? Must black roles always be the correct role, the leading role, the role of reason, and never playing the other side of the coin?

                                  I would think the black community would be upset with all the image coddling white America is giving them. You never see many Latin Americans in commercials, and the USA is over 1/6 Latino. That's 50 million plus Latino population vs 39 million black population, yet there are far more black actors in commercials than Latinos and when black actors are featured, they are most always in the role of reason.

                                  I think its sad that the intelligent black community won't tolerate a black actor in the fall guy roll in commercials where white actors are also featured. All this racial "tip toeing" is creating the opposite effect in the common goal of equality and creating fear within the way products are advertised.


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                                  • blackmonsters
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                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 20992

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                    Exactly.

                                    The funny thing is that whites will become the minority in the near future, during our lifetimes. What happens then?
                                    Less people will spend all day typing "wacist" in threads.

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                                    • Rob
                                      I'm a great bowler.
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 13310

                                      #19
                                      African Americans generally have deeper more professional (and I guess you can say educated) sounding voices and that's why they are responsible for a lot of voice over and narration work. James Earl Jones, Morgan Freeman, Samuel L. Jackson, etc. Name one white dude that has as commanding a voice as the three I just mentioned. I certainly can't.

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                                      • DBS.US
                                        Geo Cities
                                        • Aug 2003
                                        • 11841

                                        #20
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                                        • ilnjscb
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                                          • Jun 2009
                                          • 8957

                                          #21
                                          Advertisers try to stay ahead of the curve. White males have been losing "power" since 1860. Now jewish, black, latino, and women have a much larger share of the "power".

                                          They're not doing that from a conspiracy. If I had to speculate I'd say it is a new money effect. Those new groups are spending, not conserving. Therefore it makes sense to advertise to them. I never understood why you had to insult someone to sell a product. That probably means the product sucks.

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                                          • datingfactory.xxx
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                                            • Feb 2012
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                                            #22
                                            My guess is that you can see the commercials you ask for when racism is a distant memory in the future.... about 1800 years from now....
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                                            • SilentKnight
                                              Megan Fox's fluffer
                                              • Oct 2005
                                              • 24812

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Rob
                                              African Americans generally have deeper more professional (and I guess you can say educated) sounding voices and that's why they are responsible for a lot of voice over and narration work. James Earl Jones, Morgan Freeman, Samuel L. Jackson, etc. Name one white dude that has as commanding a voice as the three I just mentioned. I certainly can't.
                                              Patrick Stewart
                                              Sam Elliott
                                              Al Michaels
                                              Walter Cronkite
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                                              • brassmonkey
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                                                • Sep 2005
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Rob
                                                African Americans generally have deeper more professional (and I guess you can say educated) sounding voices and that's why they are responsible for a lot of voice over and narration work. James Earl Jones, Morgan Freeman, Samuel L. Jackson, etc. Name one white dude that has as commanding a voice as the three I just mentioned. I certainly can't.
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                                                • Rob
                                                  I'm a great bowler.
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 13310

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                  Patrick Stewart
                                                  Sam Elliott
                                                  Al Michaels
                                                  Walter Cronkite
                                                  Keifer Sutherland
                                                  Any one of those dudes can do a voice over and you'll never guess who they are in a million years. Keifer Sutherland does all the voice over for Nissan Commercials. Not many people would guess that. You put Morgan Freeman's voice on it and you instantly know who it is. Your examples just fortified my point.

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                                                  • Captain Kawaii
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Oct 2007
                                                    • 6748

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by datingfactory.xxx
                                                    My guess is that you can see the commercials you ask for when racism is a distant memory in the future.... about 1800 years from now....
                                                    You can do that now on Hulu. Its better than not having a choice thats for sure.

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                                                    • SilentKnight
                                                      Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                      • 24812

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Rob
                                                      Any one of those dudes can do a voice over and you'll never guess who they are in a million years.
                                                      Your opinion.

                                                      All of the ones I listed have very distinctive voices that I'm sure the average person recognizes immediately. If you don't know it's Sam Elliott's voice for the Dodge Ram truck commercials - I suggest you venture out of the cave more often.

                                                      I'm not denying Freeman and James Earl Jones have extremely distinctive voices (both are favorites of mine...I could listen to either of them read the phonebook) - but I don't agree that only blacks have 'that quality' when it comes to voiceover work.

                                                      Millions would easily pick out Kronkite's voice within the first few words...he spanned generations.

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                                                      • rogueteens
                                                        So fucking bland
                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                        • 8005

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MrBottomTooth
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                                                        • rogueteens
                                                          So fucking bland
                                                          • Jul 2006
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by RandyRandy
                                                          Hasn't it always been that way? Even in TV series. Going way back to Sanford & Son, All in the Family, later Benson - the Black characters were hip, sassy, intelligent - the Whites were racist, foolish, uncool. Jesus, if you were a white character on Sanford & Son you had the IQ of Corky. Remember the unhip, white cop?

                                                          Self-hating Whites, always the losers in the Politically Correct Parade.
                                                          Sanford & Son and All in the Family are based on British sitcoms with a totally white cast, it must have been changed that way on the American remakes to make some kind of point to the US viewers.
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