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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny
Because nazis and mercenaries (regular army is deserting to Russia as we all saw so many times ) is killing people without pardon.Nothing will stop this except bigger force. Force so big that it will stop any resistance. Just like when someone is attacking you on the street and you pull out gun. He will run away.
Not best principle but it was used so many times by US and no one said a word. In previous months we saw hundreds of killed civilians (it is always problem to post videos and documents about this here and I was watching 45 min long video few days ago with terrible footage and ordinary people blown around that none of western medias simply won't show) , many hundreds of dead attackers (Ukrainians if we can call them like that since people on the south are also Ukrainians) and there is a big threat that chemical factory will be hit and new catastrophe can easily happen.
It worked with Crimea, no violence, no death,no crimes, no suffering. Precisely same principle since Kiev government showed it will kill own people. Someone has to stop it, if human lives are most important (but from what we see, they are definitely not, for any side in this mess)
And who is making humanitarian disaster? Are pro russians bombing cities in Ukraine,or Kiev junta is only one that refused any talk and started bombing, airplane attacks and missiles attacks? Tons of footage online,easy to find. From what I see you are suggesting (or I am wrong?) that goal is to kill and clean all people from there and ethnically clean so from that moment there will be no further problems ?. You just need to explain people there to stay calm and wait nazis to do what they did 70 years ago. I know,it worked pretty good once in Croatia and second time in Kosovo, but this time those people are not completely alone and left to NATO supported butchers. (actually it seems Russia will leave them be killed and betray them after giving them help and hope)
He was legally elected president. Even let protesters to act like savages for months but it was described as problem. But it is not problem when new "government" is using army against onw people? that is fine, right?
Nazis are gone ? where? to drink milk before sleep? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...paratists.html
Same what happened where US and NATO is advising and that is mass ethnic cleansing and brutal violence. I've gave you two historical facts above, do a research. Burning people alive in Odessa is not telling you what will happen? As someone who lived in country devastated by civil war, I have a pretty good idea what will happen .
Much better then to have all those people suffering? Don't you think so?
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In Crimea there wasn't actual battles involved and thus no casualties, excluding murder or two, as pro-Russians did some "clearing" of the wrong minded.
Pro-Russian rebels started the whole civil war by taking arms and making easter Ukraine cities as battlefields. They chose to fight in the midst of civilians. The people's suffering will end when they give up their arms. You just hope Russian invervention, because it suits for your ideology. Whatever you are, you are definitely Pro-Russian, you have no objective view to this matter, no whatsoever.
Nazis lost WWII, and it made them gone from being any major player. Some small bunches of old or new nazis wont make difference. You are just acting like real Russian blaming people nazis. Nazi this, nazi that. The whole Soviet Union was not any better than Nazis. And today's Russia is heading for the same direction with good pace.
There were no nazis in Balkans, there were muslims and cristians and other ethnical shit. And western troops were sent to stop the ethnical killing. You are just so brainwashed that you blame western troops, those came after the "cleaning" had started. And objective figures estimate that in Ukraine the separatists have made much more war crimes than Ukrainian troops.
Russia is not yet stepping in (besides Crimea, as it did that already), because it has even somewhat sense. Conquering other countries or part of those have some serious political consequenses as we have already seen.
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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny
Once again, as someone who live in country that had a brutal civil war (much worse then this one in Ukraine), I will say this: There is no bigger stupidity then to make war with people around you.
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So why the rebels took arms, and in the cities in the first place? Why they make war?