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  • Struggle4Bucks
    Sieg Hi!
    • May 2011
    • 3615
    #351
    Originally posted by Relentless
    In one reply you managed to struggle with a lot of basic things.

    1 review sites can and do steer traffic when properly managed, in fact that is the whole point of that business model.

    2 in 2014 if your affiliate business model does not allow you to easily track $/click and quickly change your traffic source or targets you are doing it wrong.

    3 If you have a good traffic source and a good target but can not track it or modify it quickly, you have a great reason to build your own paysite, or a terrible reason to build your own affiliate site.

    4 when banks start letting you deposit 'could haves' I'll start tracking them. Until then they count for exactly zero.
    Nuances are not for you...

    1. Steer traffic? Yeah... sure... but every single site listed... even burried deep... getting only 1 click per month... even that one click per month.... why should'nt that one click be received properly... because it's only one click?
    2. - First... People have the right to learn. People have the right doing it wrong. That doesn't mean their traffic shouldn't be received correctly...
    - Second... if you push 100 sites now you can monitor their $/clicks. The 1000 other sites you're not pushing right now... you can't monitor their $/clicks right now...
    You think you're doing the most optimized thing in excistence while you don't even know where, at this very moment, you get the best $/click. You only know where you get the best $/click at sites you are pushing now! Like i said... traffic and paysites aren't static.
    Half troll half amazing!

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      • Struggle4Bucks
        Sieg Hi!
        • May 2011
        • 3615
        #352
        Originally posted by NewNick
        You would think so.....but some people think that being the gfy hero that outs the nasty program with its pesky leaks is actually more important.

        If you dont like the program go elsewhere. Its not too difficult.
        gfy hero huh? Maybe you should not make assumtions... because if people would start making assumtions one might think you just sucked the shit out of your boyfriends ass....
        Half troll half amazing!

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          • Struggle4Bucks
            Sieg Hi!
            • May 2011
            • 3615
            #353
            I think i rather light up the BBQ right now and spend some time with my gf...
            this is energy flowing thew wrong way....

            To end with Lucas' words... have a nice day everyone...
            Half troll half amazing!

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              • Relentless
                www.EngineFood.com
                • Aug 2006
                • 5697
                #354
                Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                1. Steer traffic? Yeah... sure... but every single site listed... even burried deep... getting only 1 click per month... even that one click per month.... why should'nt that one click be received properly... because it's only one click?
                You know zero about how review sites work. Listening to you talk about them is like asking a 4 year old how to drive a car. Knowing you 'turn the wheel' doesn't get you a drivers license because there is more to it than that.

                First... People have the right to learn. People have the right doing it wrong. That doesn't mean their traffic shouldn't be received correctly... Second... if you push 100 sites now you can monitor their $/clicks. The 1000 other sites you're not pushing right now... you can't monitor their $/clicks right now...You think you're doing the most optimized thing in excistence while you don't even know where, at this very moment, you get the best $/click. You only know where you get the best $/click at sites you are pushing now! Like i said... traffic and paysites aren't static.
                You have put a lot of thought into how not to make money. I would suggest you put at least half as much into how to make money. It will serve you better in the long run. JT actually came and posted a complete answer in this thread.. and you are bickering with me. Did you not notice his post?
                Last edited by Relentless; 06-26-2014, 05:13 AM.


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                  • sabaidii2
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 36
                    #355
                    To: Ruseful (Post #354)

                    I'm the OP.

                    While it would be nice (i.e., honest) if your program was explained on the affiliate site, the reality is that prospective affiliates must carefully evaluate how any affiliate program works.

                    But that's not what happened.

                    My objection to your behavior is that you began your pop-up scam after I became your affiliate (and, of course, did not inform the affiliates).

                    Your are a thief.
                    Last edited by sabaidii2; 06-26-2014, 05:34 AM.

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                      • Struggle4Bucks
                        Sieg Hi!
                        • May 2011
                        • 3615
                        #356
                        Originally posted by Relentless
                        You know zero about how review sites work. Listening to you talk about them is like asking a 4 year old how to drive a car. Knowing you 'turn the wheel' doesn't get you a drivers license because there is more to it than that.
                        It isn't about if i know how review sites work... it's about receiving traffic propely...
                        The only thing you do is making distractions

                        Originally posted by Relentless
                        You have put a lot of thought into how not to make money. I would suggest you put at least half as much into how to make money. It will serve you better in the long run.
                        You are so caught up in your brain circle jerk that you don't even understand that it isn't about me putting a lot of thought into how not to make money... Learn to read and understand people first... then we'll talk again...

                        Originally posted by Relentless
                        JT actually came and posted a complete answer in this thread.. and you are bickering with me. Did you not notice his post?
                        Yeah.... and? so? Now i need to repeat everything i allready said?
                        Now everyone can take notice and decide to promote or not...
                        The main reason i entered this thread was because it was annoying to see
                        how you were trying to polute, de-rail and distract from the topic...
                        Read again...

                        Btw... my bbq is lightning up...
                        Last edited by Struggle4Bucks; 06-26-2014, 05:25 AM.
                        Half troll half amazing!

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                          • DVTimes
                            xxx
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 31650
                            #357
                            XXX

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                              • DVTimes
                                xxx
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 31650
                                #358
                                XXX

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                                  • DVTimes
                                    xxx
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 31650
                                    #359
                                    XXX

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                                      • xXXtesy10
                                        Fakecoin Investor
                                        • Jul 2012
                                        • 7127
                                        #360
                                        Originally posted by sabaidii2
                                        Unfortunately, asking is pointless. I've already asked Eric (who *I think* runs this board to do just that. Got no response.

                                        This thread is most likely going to be my first and last. Boards need adult supervision to keep the trolls away. There is no adult control on GFY.
                                        You gonna cry now?
                                        WARNING: Stay Away From Marlboroack aka aka Brandon Ackerman
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                                          • 12clicks
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 19813
                                            #361
                                            JT, this is why its a waste of time to throw pearls before these swine.
                                            No explanation ever satisfies the rabble. Its why I haven't made a meaningful post here in about 10 years. You're dealing with lifetime losers who imagine the successful are the reason for their failure. They're fun to ridicule but its simply a waste of time to teach them anything.
                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                              • DVTimes
                                                xxx
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 31650
                                                #362
                                                XXX

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                                                  • DamianJ
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                    • 15808
                                                    #363
                                                    What would we do without content stealing pikey, DVTimes, contributions to this thread?

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                                                      • mopek1
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                        • 3201
                                                        #364
                                                        Originally posted by Ruseful
                                                        In defence of the OP of this thread, of course he is right to bring this to everyones attention. He was right to do this on GFY, thats where affiliates hang out. I have no problem with that at all and I would do the same thing if I was an affiliate.
                                                        Everyone in support of you seems to have missed that bit of text you wrote.

                                                        Thank you for saying it and for validating the affiliates right to expression.

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                                                          • The Porn Nerd
                                                            Living The Dream
                                                            • Jun 2009
                                                            • 19780
                                                            #365
                                                            Originally posted by Ruseful
                                                            And this works both ways. Only last month, I found one of my affiliates blatantly stealing from me. He runs a well known service that he provides to other major cash programs, where he asks for a members area pass to your sites, edits his own tube videos from YOUR content, watermarks YOUR content with his own "similar" domain, and then uploads these clips to the tubes. He makes his money from the direct type-ins to his domain, that he then forwards to my site/s from where he uses my content, with his aff code. He was sending me around 100 joins a month. I didn't delete his account, and continue to pay the aff share he is entitled too. And after a letter from my lawyer (to which he said to me directly "I hope your lawyer charges a lot"), he switched the redirects back to my sites. But for the 30 days he redirected to my competitors, I lost 100 sales and subsequent rebills.
                                                            This part interests me the most. JT would you care to share who this company is that was re-directing? Perhaps off-GFY? I ask because I have been approached many times for 'Members Area access' for affiliates to cut their own promo tools and clips. I have consistently rejected these types of partnerships but recently relented and have granted access to two such companies. This just happened last week so they are still in the process of cutting the content etc but now it worries me that the situation you just described could be happening with my sites. Something I do not want of course.

                                                            Any more info on this would be most helpful.
                                                            Last edited by The Porn Nerd; 06-26-2014, 08:22 AM.
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                                                              • Tom_PM
                                                                Porn Meister
                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                • 16443
                                                                #366
                                                                This thread is one that I still just don't GET in so many ways.

                                                                First of all, any and all companies have, do, and will continue to try out all KINDS of new shit on their websites. THEIRS! He can put up a chain of 50 pop ups if it will keep his doors open, if you'll kindly follow what I'm saying.

                                                                Also, I really want to know why the OP didn't talk about asking for a special link to promote the bundled deal which COULD have been of value to both parties! I'm all for a crusade, I guess, haha, but seriously he can put a bundle pop up all he wants to. He can put up a new join page and send 50% of the join clicks to the new one too. you WANT him to whether you like to believe it or not because that's how he improves ratios and once again, keeps the doors open and the lights on.

                                                                Again, exposing something wrong is all well and good and whatever, but I don't see this as "scam" even remotely, not even close to remotely a scam in any way. I would have wanted to promote the bundle and I would bug the shit out of him until he let me do it even if it was for just a week with simple pre-approved pages. Why not? Advantages don't come knocking at your door every day.

                                                                Now I have shit to get done.. I don't get this thread.
                                                                43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                  • NewNick
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2009
                                                                    • 7230
                                                                    #367
                                                                    Originally posted by sabaidii2
                                                                    To: Ruseful (Post #354)

                                                                    I'm the OP.

                                                                    While it would be nice (i.e., honest) if your program was explained on the affiliate site, the reality is that prospective affiliates must carefully evaluate how any affiliate program works.

                                                                    But that's not what happened.

                                                                    My objection to your behavior is that you began your pop-up scam after I became your affiliate (and, of course, did not inform the affiliates).

                                                                    Your are a thief.
                                                                    A thief ?

                                                                    Think it might be bye bye time for you.

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                                                                      • sabaidii2
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Sep 2010
                                                                        • 36
                                                                        #368
                                                                        Originally posted by NewNick
                                                                        A thief ?

                                                                        Think it might be bye bye time for you.

                                                                        Yep, I'm gone.

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                                                                          • sabaidii2
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Sep 2010
                                                                            • 36
                                                                            #369
                                                                            Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                            This thread is one that I still just don't GET in so many ways.

                                                                            First of all, any and all companies have, do, and will continue to try out all KINDS of new shit on their websites. THEIRS! He can put up a chain of 50 pop ups if it will keep his doors open, if you'll kindly follow what I'm saying.

                                                                            Also, I really want to know why the OP didn't talk about asking for a special link to promote the bundled deal which COULD have been of value to both parties! I'm all for a crusade, I guess, haha, but seriously he can put a bundle pop up all he wants to. He can put up a new join page and send 50% of the join clicks to the new one too. you WANT him to whether you like to believe it or not because that's how he improves ratios and once again, keeps the doors open and the lights on.

                                                                            Again, exposing something wrong is all well and good and whatever, but I don't see this as "scam" even remotely, not even close to remotely a scam in any way. I would have wanted to promote the bundle and I would bug the shit out of him until he let me do it even if it was for just a week with simple pre-approved pages. Why not? Advantages don't come knocking at your door every day.

                                                                            Now I have shit to get done.. I don't get this thread.
                                                                            1) I did ask for an affiliate link to the bundled sites. The response was, "No."
                                                                            (Just like I said in the OP)

                                                                            2) You recommend that I beg JT to be allowed to promote the bundled sites, even after being told, "No"?
                                                                            I don't think so. And if you read his post (#354) carefully, you will see that he does not want to do that.

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                                                                              • DVTimes
                                                                                xxx
                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 31650
                                                                                #370
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                                                                                  • DVTimes
                                                                                    xxx
                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 31650
                                                                                    #371
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                                                                                      • DWB
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 31779
                                                                                        #372
                                                                                        This morning I stood in line in a hot box room that did not have aircon, with 100+ Thai people in front of me, and 100 more behind me, waiting to deal with idiots at the water company, and I read every page of this thread on my phone. There was nothing else to do and my phone connection was too crappy to watch Youtube videos. So I read, and read, and laughed, and read, and laughed some more, and read some more.

                                                                                        After 8 pages, this is what I gathered:

                                                                                        Should I ever find myself in serious trouble on a board, hire Relentless and pay him whatever he asks for to unleash the $/Click Kraken.

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                                                                                          • Relentless
                                                                                            www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                                                            • 5697
                                                                                            #373
                                                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                            This morning I stood in line in a hot box room that did not have aircon, with 100+ Thai people in front of me, and 100 more behind me, waiting to deal with idiots at the water company, and I read every page of this thread on my phone. There was nothing else to do and my phone connection was too crappy to watch Youtube videos. So I read, and read, and laughed, and read, and laughed some more, and read some more. After 8 pages, this is what I gathered: Should I ever find myself in serious trouble on a board, hire Relentless and pay him whatever he asks for to unleash the $/Click Kraken.
                                                                                            Thanks for the kind words DWB.
                                                                                            Get me on Skype or ICQ btw... Had an unrelated question for you.


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                                                                                              • Captain Kawaii
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Oct 2007
                                                                                                • 6748
                                                                                                #374
                                                                                                Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                                This morning I stood in line in a hot box room that did not have aircon, with 100+ Thai people in front of me, and 100 more behind me, waiting to deal with idiots at the water company, and I read every page of this thread on my phone. There was nothing else to do and my phone connection was too crappy to watch Youtube videos. So I read, and read, and laughed, and read, and laughed some more, and read some more.

                                                                                                After 8 pages, this is what I gathered:

                                                                                                Should I ever find myself in serious trouble on a board, hire Relentless and pay him whatever he asks for to unleash the $/Click Kraken.
                                                                                                - Just ask JT not to make a coming clean post that makes rerentress look like an asshat to non high traffic tube owners. Thanks for that post JT. Less smug than Fabian but still pretty manly of you.

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                                                                                                  • Relentless
                                                                                                    www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                                                    • 5697
                                                                                                    #375
                                                                                                    Kawaii,

                                                                                                    His post agrees with what I've said for 8 pages. Send your traffic where it earns you the most $/click.
                                                                                                    I do agree that his post is remarkable. Most successful program owners would never have bothered explaining $/click in that much detail.
                                                                                                    Last edited by Relentless; 06-26-2014, 07:21 PM.


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                                                                                                      • fuzebox
                                                                                                        making it rain
                                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                                        • 22353
                                                                                                        #376
                                                                                                        Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                                        unleash the $/Click Kraken.
                                                                                                        omg

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                                                                                                          • Captain Kawaii
                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                            • Oct 2007
                                                                                                            • 6748
                                                                                                            #377
                                                                                                            clikkity klak. dwb for the WIN!

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                                                                                                              • ladida
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                • 2179
                                                                                                                #378
                                                                                                                Originally posted by dwb
                                                                                                                unleash the $/click kraken.
                                                                                                                bahahahahaahahaha nice one.
                                                                                                                agentGFY *at* gmail.com

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                                                                                                                  • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                    • 6697
                                                                                                                    #379
                                                                                                                    Yeah JT maybe you should not have had an open affiliate program. But the point is that you do have one and you have all sorts of affiliates now (or you did). That means you have a responsibility to act accordingly. It could probably be argued in some jurisdictions that what you have done constitutes FRAUD. I completely agree that you are not affiliate friendly. That is why I stayed far away from you in addition to your past history with tube sites.

                                                                                                                    For the people who say "Oh! It's his site so he should be able to put up popups to in-house only site X!" That is fine. I agree and all but he needs to keep it off the affiliate tour. This is a very very basic thing other [honest] sponsors have figured out for the last decade and a half. It's not like this is some new idea. Failing this he needs to at least notify his affiliates that he will be stealing their traffic without additional compensation. Failure to do this basically makes him either a thief or incompetent. Or perhaps both.
                                                                                                                    Last edited by signupdamnit; 06-27-2014, 03:03 AM.

                                                                                                                    You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                                                      • Relentless
                                                                                                                        www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                        • 5697
                                                                                                                        #380
                                                                                                                        No, it could not be argued that way in any jurisdiction. Your entire post is idiotic. A traffic leak is exactly that.... A leak. It has the potential to reduce your $/click or to have zero impact at all on your revenue. Look at your $/click each period and decide where to send your traffic for the next period. It's that simple.

                                                                                                                        Do you even own a website?


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                                                                                                                          • Magnetron
                                                                                                                            Lord High Groundhog
                                                                                                                            • Jun 2013
                                                                                                                            • 1841
                                                                                                                            #381
                                                                                                                            Hi, my name is Relentless.

                                                                                                                            It matters not if your wife is out sucking off other guys on the side as long as she sucks your dick more than all your previous girlfriends.
                                                                                                                            .
                                                                                                                            Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
                                                                                                                            and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
                                                                                                                            While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
                                                                                                                            with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
                                                                                                                            you stood for
                                                                                                                            ever before the window saying
                                                                                                                            nothing

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                                                                                                                              • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                • 6697
                                                                                                                                #382
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Magnetron
                                                                                                                                Hi, my name is Relentless.

                                                                                                                                It matters not if your wife is out sucking off other guys on the side as long as she sucks your dick more than all your previous girlfriends.
                                                                                                                                Yeah I even made a thread pretty much just for that guy.

                                                                                                                                http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1143962

                                                                                                                                Funny how he posts hundreds of replies saying the same thing over and over again in other topics where people talk negatively about programs which are paying him to display his seal (hijacking the topic and making it hard to follow) but he won't discuss it in an actual topic meant for that purpose. I have the fucker on ignore (sick of his thread jacking) but I'll gladly listen to it there.

                                                                                                                                You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                                                                  • Relentless
                                                                                                                                    www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                    • 5697
                                                                                                                                    #383
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Magnetron
                                                                                                                                    Hi, my name is Relentless. It matters not if your wife is out sucking off other guys on the side as long as she sucks your dick more than all your previous girlfriends.
                                                                                                                                    As an affiliate, if you are 'married' to any one sponsor, you are making a huge mistake.

                                                                                                                                    As a married person, if you are hoping to maximize your payouts from your spouse, you are making a huge mistake.

                                                                                                                                    Your attempt at an analogy = failure
                                                                                                                                    Last edited by Relentless; 06-27-2014, 03:23 AM.


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                                                                                                                                      • slapass
                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 14625
                                                                                                                                        #384
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                                                                                        And if you understand that, then you can see leaks lower the bid from a sponsor and increase the reason an affiliate would move their traffic.
                                                                                                                                        If you look at your $/click you will automatically find every leak... Unless the leak isn't costing you any money, in which case it isn't a problem.
                                                                                                                                        If a program used to pay you 20 per click and then they add leaks so they pay 8 per click you'll see the 12 drop and can take action
                                                                                                                                        If a program used to pay you 20 per click and they add leaks but your per click remains 20 or goes up over 20, that leak isn't your problem
                                                                                                                                        Leaks only matter if they affect your $/click. Shaving only matters if it affects your $/click. And $/click is the easiest most reliable thing you can calculate.
                                                                                                                                        It's math
                                                                                                                                        You are missing the point. If you allow them to fuck you for a while and let it go, they will find more ways to do it.
                                                                                                                                        No one has endless time so waiting for a sponsor who has shown these tendencies to get worse is stupid. Do you want to build more based on this sponsor? Do you want to see a lot of hardwork and effort get shit canned in three months?
                                                                                                                                        Affiliate marketing is a sprint for some, but for most people, it is a marathon.

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                                                                                                                                          • Relentless
                                                                                                                                            www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                            • 5697
                                                                                                                                            #385
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                                                                            You are missing the point. If you allow them to fuck you for a while and let it go, they will find more ways to do it. No one has endless time so waiting for a sponsor who has shown these tendencies to get worse is stupid. Do you want to build more based on this sponsor? Do you want to see a lot of hardwork and effort get shit canned in three months? Affiliate marketing is a sprint for some, but for most people, it is a marathon.
                                                                                                                                            You are missing the point.

                                                                                                                                            Someone who pays you more than anyone else would pay you per click is not fucking with you. As long as you continue to watch your $/click and they continue to pay you more per click than anyone else pays... they are your best choice. The moment someone else actually pays you more (not promises... actually does) they become your new best choice. Always watch your own $/click... if it goes down for ANY reason make decisions.


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                                                                                                                                              • Relentless
                                                                                                                                                www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                • 5697
                                                                                                                                                #386
                                                                                                                                                This is what a professional hears when someone explains $/click:

                                                                                                                                                "I can earn the most money by sending the traffic where it earns me the most money and ignoring the distractions... my goal is to earn the most money for my clicks, so yeah that makes obvious sense."











                                                                                                                                                This is a visual approximation of what signupdamnit and other GFY 'geniuses' hear when someone explains $/click:




                                                                                                                                                If you can quiet the crowd of nonsense in your mind long enough to actually think about what is being said... it makes perfect sense.


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                                                                                                                                                  • Captain Kawaii
                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                                    • 6748
                                                                                                                                                    #387
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                                                                                                    Kawaii,

                                                                                                                                                    His post agrees with what I've said for 8 pages. Send your traffic where it earns you the most $/click.
                                                                                                                                                    I do agree that his post is remarkable. Most successful program owners would never have bothered explaining $/click in that much detail.
                                                                                                                                                    I think most affiliates here would wish he would not have an open program to fool so many or have a disclaimer advising them they had better have a high traffic tube or forget it.

                                                                                                                                                    I think and probably many think he uses youporn to convert and the bulk of affiliates for back links. As Robbie pointed out if you have non tube, porn buying traffic, like Robbie and many of us do, the generic porn being offered is a waste for people. Then you get into the bundling antics and well, it's a train wreck from there for affiliates who are tired of a never ending list of bad programs.

                                                                                                                                                    The post is remarkable because like Fabian he enjoys wiping his cock off on our sheets. He is polite about it but it amounts to the same thing.

                                                                                                                                                    Some of us are professional crooks and some of us are professional affiliates and program owners. Opinions about who we work with may vary.

                                                                                                                                                    You have ZERO business ethics Relentless. Your posts time and time again prove that. You also fail to show you understand one important fact. If you are working with his program and making 100$ per day, most likely you should be making $200 per day but you are not. They have a word for that discrepancy...somebody help me out, I think it begins with the letter T.
                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by Captain Kawaii; 06-27-2014, 03:43 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                      • Relentless
                                                                                                                                                        www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                        • 5697
                                                                                                                                                        #388
                                                                                                                                                        Kawaii,

                                                                                                                                                        If I am working with this program and earning $100 and someone else would pay me $200 then I should be earning $200. However, if the highest anyone else will pay for the same clicks is $99, then it would be foolish to accept less for the exact same traffic.

                                                                                                                                                        $/clicks works EVERY time.


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                                                                                                                                                          • Magnetron
                                                                                                                                                            Lord High Groundhog
                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2013
                                                                                                                                                            • 1841
                                                                                                                                                            #389
                                                                                                                                                            Hi, my name is Relentless.

                                                                                                                                                            It matters not if you are siphoning gas from my car as long as you are taking less than the other gas thieves. It is your generosity that allows me to drive the furthest distance possible.
                                                                                                                                                            .
                                                                                                                                                            Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
                                                                                                                                                            and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
                                                                                                                                                            While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
                                                                                                                                                            with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
                                                                                                                                                            you stood for
                                                                                                                                                            ever before the window saying
                                                                                                                                                            nothing

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                                                                                                                                                              • DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                • 15808
                                                                                                                                                                #390
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Magnetron
                                                                                                                                                                Hi, my name is Relentless.

                                                                                                                                                                It matters not if your wife is out sucking off other guys on the side as long as she sucks your dick more than all your previous girlfriends.
                                                                                                                                                                Hi, my name is Magnetron.

                                                                                                                                                                Derp derp derp, derp derp. Derp derpy derp derp. Derp.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                    • 15808
                                                                                                                                                                    #391
                                                                                                                                                                    4 hundred people who don't get that if they don't like it, they can fuck off to another programme. Really fucking easily.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • Relentless
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                        • 5697
                                                                                                                                                                        #392
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Magnetron
                                                                                                                                                                        Hi, my name is Relentless. It matters not if you are siphoning gas from my car as long as you are taking less than the other gas thieves. It is your generosity that allows me to drive the furthest distance possible.
                                                                                                                                                                        You are the worst at analolgies... wow.

                                                                                                                                                                        Here is what an accurate analogy would look like:

                                                                                                                                                                        SponsorA buys gas from you for $1.10 per gallon

                                                                                                                                                                        SponsorB buys gas from you for $4.00 per gallon BUT he also uses the bathroom at your gas station and washes his hands before he leaves. In that way he does in fact cause your water bill to rise a tiny amount more than SponsorA.


                                                                                                                                                                        Should your try to do more business with SponsorA or with SponsorB?

                                                                                                                                                                        If that water bill increase is more than $2.90 per visit then A is paying you the most, if the water bill is less than 2.90 per visit, then EVEN THOUGH B is using your bathroom and A is not, B is still the best choice for you.


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                                                                                                                                                                          • DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                            • 15808
                                                                                                                                                                            #393
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                                                                                                                            You are the worst at analolgies... wow.
                                                                                                                                                                            You should read his poetry. He posts them on some wanky poetry site.

                                                                                                                                                                            They sound like he is a spotty, angst ridden 13 year old with unrequited love issues.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Relentless
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                • 5697
                                                                                                                                                                                #394
                                                                                                                                                                                Maybe this will help....



                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks DWB.


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                                                                                                                                                                                  • arock10
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 6217
                                                                                                                                                                                    #395
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Magnetron
                                                                                                                                                                                    Hi, my name is Relentless.

                                                                                                                                                                                    It matters not if your wife is out sucking off other guys on the side as long as she sucks your dick more than all your previous girlfriends.
                                                                                                                                                                                    This one is good.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Sup

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Relentless
                                                                                                                                                                                        www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 5697
                                                                                                                                                                                        #396
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by arock10
                                                                                                                                                                                        This one is good.
                                                                                                                                                                                        If you 'know' what is good about as well as you seem to understand $/click, you are not much help with either metric.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Have luck.


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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Magnetron
                                                                                                                                                                                            Lord High Groundhog
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2013
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 1841
                                                                                                                                                                                            #397
                                                                                                                                                                                            Hi, my name is Relentless.

                                                                                                                                                                                            I'm just here to whore out my services, but don't feel any obligation to offer me more than pennies above my competitors. What few extra nickels and dimes anyone tosses in my direction is the ultimate game changer my life revolves around. In fact, I insist you do everything in your power to pay me the bare minimum tolerated by the law. Or you could pay me even less in cash under the table. Either way is fine, provided you are the one willing to pay the most when it comes to paying the least.
                                                                                                                                                                                            .
                                                                                                                                                                                            Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
                                                                                                                                                                                            and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
                                                                                                                                                                                            While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
                                                                                                                                                                                            with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
                                                                                                                                                                                            you stood for
                                                                                                                                                                                            ever before the window saying
                                                                                                                                                                                            nothing

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Magnetron
                                                                                                                                                                                                Lord High Groundhog
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2013
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 1841
                                                                                                                                                                                                #398
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                                                                You should read his poetry. He posts them on some wanky poetry site.

                                                                                                                                                                                                They sound like he is a spotty, angst ridden 13 year old with unrequited love issues.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Cyber Bully.
                                                                                                                                                                                                .
                                                                                                                                                                                                Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
                                                                                                                                                                                                and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
                                                                                                                                                                                                While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
                                                                                                                                                                                                with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
                                                                                                                                                                                                you stood for
                                                                                                                                                                                                ever before the window saying
                                                                                                                                                                                                nothing

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Fat Panda
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 13296
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #399
                                                                                                                                                                                                    maggots defending parasites

                                                                                                                                                                                                    gotta love gfy 2014

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • slapass
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 14625
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #400
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                                                                                                                                                        This thread is one that I still just don't GET in so many ways.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        First of all, any and all companies have, do, and will continue to try out all KINDS of new shit on their websites. THEIRS! He can put up a chain of 50 pop ups if it will keep his doors open, if you'll kindly follow what I'm saying.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Also, I really want to know why the OP didn't talk about asking for a special link to promote the bundled deal which COULD have been of value to both parties! I'm all for a crusade, I guess, haha, but seriously he can put a bundle pop up all he wants to. He can put up a new join page and send 50% of the join clicks to the new one too. you WANT him to whether you like to believe it or not because that's how he improves ratios and once again, keeps the doors open and the lights on.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Again, exposing something wrong is all well and good and whatever, but I don't see this as "scam" even remotely, not even close to remotely a scam in any way. I would have wanted to promote the bundle and I would bug the shit out of him until he let me do it even if it was for just a week with simple pre-approved pages. Why not? Advantages don't come knocking at your door every day.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Now I have shit to get done.. I don't get this thread.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Read the OP closer. He did ask and was denied. Also there is a response from the sponsor saying he is not trying to be affiliate friendly. The thread makes sense, you just missed it.

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