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  • stickyfingerz
    Doin fine
    • Oct 2005
    • 24984

    #51
    Originally posted by Fabien
    They asked for it again ??????????????????????????

    Just to let you know that i received a small payment and i was able to withdraw the funds but i have 30 days to comply, if i want to continue to use it. Don't know how i'll work this out tho and i'm not really really in favor of this "security" measure which won't change a f*cking thing
    Well Im not too pissed about it since the other 9 docs are there. Had someone send me money or sent money to someone that was scamming people a year or so ago. So had to do the full docs thing. Account was froze that time, but I understood since the guy scammed people. Oh I remember I did a paypal to epass trade with him. He sent epass to me and I sent him paypal. He was fairly active on gfy too, so didnt think much of it at the time. I did the paypal refund chargeback thing. Think it was lousy 100.00 total. I ended up getting 60.00 back of it, but the hassle cause of it was a pain.

    I have a scanner and a camera and fax etc, but many people might not have those, so makes it even more of a hassle for those that do not, but if it cleans up epass where you can feel safer doing p2p transactions etc Im for it. Just bit irritated about having to resend even though its not a big deal as I already have a copy of my id sitting on my hard drive.

    50 epass documents ;)

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    • Brujah
      Beer Money Baron
      • Jan 2001
      • 22157

      #52
      What makes you feel safer about using epass if this is only for people who do more than $5,000 worth of business with them?

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      • BlackCrayon
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jun 2003
        • 19634

        #53
        Originally posted by Brujah
        What makes you feel safer about using epass if this is only for people who do more than $5,000 worth of business with them?
        Its not. I've never had a payment that exceeded 5k but still got the message.
        you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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        • Sid70
          Downshifter
          • Dec 2002
          • 16413

          #54
          Actually moneybookers requested that too ( amd blocked my money in!) and many other like Fet and CGPAY also require that. Payoneer is still clear, but you never knwo what they are gonna ask soon.
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          • Fabien
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2003
            • 4789

            #55
            Originally posted by kievdesign
            Actually moneybookers requested that too ( amd blocked my money in!) and many other like Fet and CGPAY also require that. Payoneer is still clear, but you never knwo what they are gonna ask soon.

            Damn, how the hell are we suppose to confirm this when the biz address (epass) is not the same as the docs asked ?

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            • Brujah
              Beer Money Baron
              • Jan 2001
              • 22157

              #56
              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
              Its not. I've never had a payment that exceeded 5k but still got the message.
              Well, this statement posted earlier is what I meant.

              ePassporte is going to be requiring that Account Holders who have
              cumulatively loaded over $5,000,00 to their Account over time (via load
              cards, ACH loads, P2Ps, and B2Ps) to submit verification documents.

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              • ThumbLord

                #57
                cumulatively as in a total of
                like 1000 times 5 or whatever

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                • Barefootsies
                  Choice is an Illusion
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 42635

                  #58
                  Originally posted by aico
                  LOL, so many complaints about scammers on Epassporte, so they do something which in my opinion would help thwart scammers, and you complain about this too.

                  Some people just like to complain.
                  Should You Email Your Members?

                  Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                  Enough Said.

                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                  • wyldblyss
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 5779

                    #59
                    Originally posted by aico
                    LOL, so many complaints about scammers on Epassporte, so they do something which in my opinion would help thwart scammers, and you complain about this too.

                    Some people just like to complain.
                    It isn't that simple. For some of us concerned about scammers and security, sending all of this information to epassporte and not knowing how secure it is is a bit disconcerting. For example, they want your credit card statement...no big deal right? Well, that statement gives them information like your credit limit, how much you owe on your card, what kind of payments you make on your card, where you shop, how much you charge etc. Is it necessary for them to have this info? How will knowing this information improve security? My bank lets me cash very large checks, I have never shown them more than my SS number and drivers license and they didn't keep a copy of them.

                    Then there is the bank statement...gee...they get to see how much you have in your account...how much your income is (at least from deposits), see who you work for, who you spouse works for (by direct deposits from employers), see what bills you pay (hence how many credit cards you pay). Where do you spend your money and how much do you spend it on....

                    Now I don't know about you, but I don't see how this information...that you send via the internet to an unsecure location...to unknown individuals that store a copy of it online? or copies in filing cabinets...or wherever...that is accessed by how many individuals...is going to prevent a scammer from scamming.

                    The main concern here is security right......ok....how secure is the information we give them...and why is so much information requested? Where does verification end and phishing begin? Epassporte might be worried about security (there is a first for everything) but should the people that have to provide that information ALSO worry about the information they provide, how it is going to be kept private and secure? Could you imagine if someone broke into their offices and/or hacked them online how much information that is NOT encrypted they will have access to? People should be very afraid.

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                    • facialfreak
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 3018

                      #60
                      I am wondering if this may have anything to do with internet revenue now being taxable in the state of New York ... and I am willing to bet that many more states are going to follow suite very soon ...

                      It sounds to me like epass is preparing themselves to share their records with the IRS ...

                      But I live in Canada, so I should not have to comply to this ...

                      Like wyldblyss mentioned above, the amount of information you give to them is violating your own personal security in itself ...

                      Why has epassporte not sent Michael with their official statement on this at least?

                      I find it very concerning that a company with such shoddy customer service is asking to be the guardian of our life's history on paper?????

                      I am probably going to close my account ... and I just paid my plastic card renewal in march, so they can refund me that too!!

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                      • Fabien
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 4789

                        #61
                        Tabarnake same thing here !

                        - "Like wyldblyss mentioned above, the amount of information you give to them is violating your own personal security in itself"

                        Guess what kind of email i'll send to them right now !
                        They can shove it up their asses.
                        Man after 5 years with them without ONE SINGLE ISSUE.
                        I can't beleive i'll say this but FUCK EPASSPORTE

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                        • Evil1
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 3893

                          #62
                          Originally posted by facialfreak
                          shoddy customer service
                          Theres an understatement. I sent them an email asking them a bunch of questions, all I get back is a form letter that didn't have shit to do with what I was asking.

                          I've had an account since they opened (6 years-ish), not one problem, suddenly I'm a fucking scammer?

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                          • Brujah
                            Beer Money Baron
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 22157

                            #63
                            You could be right. Maybe it's a tax issue. To prevent you money laundering, tax evaders from cheating George Bush out of extra money.

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                            • faxxaff
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 2134

                              #64
                              A few weeks back German and other European and US government agencies bought up sensitive information about Liechtenstein Bank accounts. It's pretty obvious that the same thing could hapend to Epass ... actually the danger is much higher with Epass than with banks ...
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                              • tranza
                                ICQ: 197-556-237
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 57559

                                #65
                                They are asking everybody for this now??

                                I'm glad I sent these docs long ago.

                                I'm just a newbie.

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                                • Fabien
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 4789

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by tranza
                                  They are asking everybody for this now??

                                  I'm glad I sent these docs long ago.

                                  I don't know mate

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                                  • the alchemist
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2004
                                    • 3271

                                    #67
                                    I got that yesterday...
                                    264 349 400

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                                    • Chris
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 27880

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by tranza
                                      They are asking everybody for this now??

                                      I'm glad I sent these docs long ago.

                                      it doesnt matter if you sent in before
                                      i dont fucking know why either
                                      i sent in all the shit
                                      a month ago
                                      and now i gotta do it again

                                      fucking epassporte
                                      if paypal wasnt such a fucking fee whore id leave epass right now
                                      [email protected]

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                                      • RayBonga
                                        too cool for highschool
                                        • Nov 2005
                                        • 12164

                                        #69
                                        Changing everything to wire transfers.

                                        Lets see if they have anyone post some explanation here

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                                        • BradM
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 3397

                                          #70
                                          Changing all to check. Fuck it, whatever.

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                                          • Fabien
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 4789

                                            #71
                                            +1

                                            COUNT ME IN !
                                            More than 5 years with them without a fucking ISSUE !!!!

                                            It's damn dangerous to send them all those infos.
                                            In fact to anyone. Hell even my own bank doesn't ask me this much !

                                            If you think it's good idea to send all this to a company you don't know shit about.
                                            Hey go ahead ! I've been online since the mid 90's (remember Xpics, i was there guys)

                                            Now where will it stop ? Oh yeah and before a dumb ass comes in here and say that we were whinning about Epassporte security problems and that we are are now whinning again. GFY

                                            IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

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                                            • V_RocKs
                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 32451

                                              #72
                                              Lets look at this objectively.

                                              1) Epassporte stops processing all payments for gambling sites.
                                              2) Epassporte asks all members to prove to Epassporte who they are.
                                              3) Epassporte is especially concerned with where you live when asking for the documents.

                                              Now lets look at Neteller.

                                              They did something similar and the IRS went through their documents looking for card holders that had account balances of $10,000 or more and did not acknowledge this fact on their tax returns. Moving money of $10K or more into or outside the US must be declared. Your tax form has a check box to do so. Says something like, In 2007 did you have $10,000 or more in a foreign bank account. Which Epassporte is.

                                              Next they went after the larger gambling winners. So anyone with $100K or more in winnings received an IRS notice informing them that they needed to prove they lost an amount equal to or over the amount they won. If they could not do so, they would have to pay taxes and penalties on the winnings.

                                              Rumors have spread that the number came down to as low as $30,000 over the last two years as the IRS is working to collect all of the money US tax payers kept.

                                              So if you didn't gamble or didn't remove large amounts of cash you might not have a problem. If you did have $10K in the account and failed to report it, you can expect an audit. If you won large amounts, expect a bill.

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                                              • Iron Fist
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Dec 2006
                                                • 23400

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by aico
                                                Some people just like to complain.


                                                Okay...looks like we figured it out folks... everyone can go home now...
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                                                • Turboface
                                                  Back in Black
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 9976

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Fabien
                                                  I've been online since the mid 90's (remember Xpics, i was there guys


                                                  Ah, the good ol' days.

                                                  I remember pushing SexMuseum, and the few other sites XPics had back then. I also remember pushing CyberThrill Casino, which turned out to be one of the biggest scams in internet history, up until that point and perhaps today.
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                                                  • electricblue
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Feb 2008
                                                    • 25

                                                    #75
                                                    i have seen the requirement on my epass, only need fill in epass form and send back with utility bill and 1 photo id, dont know why some of you say they need 10 bits of info, they say it take them at least 10 days to reveiw but knowing from past experiences it will take them weeks.
                                                    it a problem for those with a different address than on their epass profiles but at least you have the opportunity to withdraw all your money within 30 days from date of notice then you can set up again with the correct info.

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                                                    • mb
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 1550

                                                      #76
                                                      Not sure what is going on with epassporte... I sent the requested info to them weeks ago... they are holding my money and I can't touch it. I thought I was a reputable person in this business... why does this take so long to check a couple of emailed docs?

                                                      sheesh,

                                                      marc

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                                                      • Matt 26z
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 18481

                                                        #77
                                                        What is stopping a scammer from using Photoshop to doctor these scans?

                                                        Nothing.

                                                        So this isn't about preventing scammers from joining.

                                                        And for the record, I opened a bank account with Washington Mutual recently using their website, and they never requested to see positive ID.

                                                        Fact is, you can get a home loan that requires less ID's than ePass is demanding.

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                                                        • Fabien
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 4789

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by electricblue
                                                          i have seen the requirement on my epass, only need fill in epass form and send back with utility bill and 1 photo id, dont know why some of you say they need 10 bits of info, they say it take them at least 10 days to reveiw but knowing from past experiences it will take them weeks.
                                                          it a problem for those with a different address than on their epass profiles but at least you have the opportunity to withdraw all your money within 30 days from date of notice then you can set up again with the correct info.

                                                          Yeah same for me tho. They ask for 2 documents
                                                          1) Valid government issued ID (with photo)
                                                          2) A bill, like phone,gaz etc...


                                                          The problem is, i don't have a pic of my fart face on the ID, second, the addresses on the ID and the bills are showing my home address, not my biz address and guess where all my Epassporte shit goes ?

                                                          So if i can't provide this i'm a fucking thieve ???????? 5 years + without have a sinlge issue. DROP THE FUCKERS it smells very very very bad guys.

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                                                          • StuartD
                                                            Sofa King Band
                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                            • 29903

                                                            #79
                                                            What a mess. I'm so glad I've never used them.

                                                            And I don't know what some of you are thinking, for having bills links directly to it.
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                                                            • Ethersync
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2008
                                                              • 5289

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                              Lets look at this objectively.

                                                              1) Epassporte stops processing all payments for gambling sites.
                                                              2) Epassporte asks all members to prove to Epassporte who they are.
                                                              3) Epassporte is especially concerned with where you live when asking for the documents.

                                                              Now lets look at Neteller.

                                                              They did something similar and the IRS went through their documents looking for card holders that had account balances of $10,000 or more and did not acknowledge this fact on their tax returns. Moving money of $10K or more into or outside the US must be declared. Your tax form has a check box to do so. Says something like, In 2007 did you have $10,000 or more in a foreign bank account. Which Epassporte is.

                                                              Next they went after the larger gambling winners. So anyone with $100K or more in winnings received an IRS notice informing them that they needed to prove they lost an amount equal to or over the amount they won. If they could not do so, they would have to pay taxes and penalties on the winnings.

                                                              Rumors have spread that the number came down to as low as $30,000 over the last two years as the IRS is working to collect all of the money US tax payers kept.

                                                              So if you didn't gamble or didn't remove large amounts of cash you might not have a problem. If you did have $10K in the account and failed to report it, you can expect an audit. If you won large amounts, expect a bill.
                                                              Yeah, I think you're right about this unfortunately...
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                                                              • YellowPages
                                                                Shooter Pinks
                                                                • Mar 2008
                                                                • 150

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                Its not. I've never had a payment that exceeded 5k but still got the message.
                                                                It is cumulative.

                                                                I have accounts over 5 years old which are squeaky clean that I'm going to lose for absolutely no reason.

                                                                No reason at all. Just gone. Not for fraud, not for scamming, but for Epass asking for documents that don't exist.

                                                                I think I will register PhotoShoppedEpassDocs.com and make mad cash for the next 6+ weeks, LOL

                                                                You think I'm joking?
                                                                Anyone hit me up and I will fix your docs today.


                                                                I've made and sold A LOT more critical Govt. docs than fuckin' ePass docs, LOL.

                                                                Seriously, what do you have to lose by making your own docs?

                                                                YP
                                                                Last edited by YellowPages; 05-02-2008, 04:04 AM.

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                                                                • RayBonga
                                                                  too cool for highschool
                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                  • 12164

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                  Lets look at this objectively.

                                                                  1) Epassporte stops processing all payments for gambling sites.
                                                                  2) Epassporte asks all members to prove to Epassporte who they are.
                                                                  3) Epassporte is especially concerned with where you live when asking for the documents.

                                                                  Now lets look at Neteller.

                                                                  They did something similar and the IRS went through their documents looking for card holders that had account balances of $10,000 or more and did not acknowledge this fact on their tax returns. Moving money of $10K or more into or outside the US must be declared. Your tax form has a check box to do so. Says something like, In 2007 did you have $10,000 or more in a foreign bank account. Which Epassporte is.

                                                                  Next they went after the larger gambling winners. So anyone with $100K or more in winnings received an IRS notice informing them that they needed to prove they lost an amount equal to or over the amount they won. If they could not do so, they would have to pay taxes and penalties on the winnings.

                                                                  Rumors have spread that the number came down to as low as $30,000 over the last two years as the IRS is working to collect all of the money US tax payers kept.

                                                                  So if you didn't gamble or didn't remove large amounts of cash you might not have a problem. If you did have $10K in the account and failed to report it, you can expect an audit. If you won large amounts, expect a bill.
                                                                  Yes, epass is going the same route

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                                                                  • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                    Now choke yourself!
                                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                                    • 12085

                                                                    #83
                                                                    God forbid you be required to provide verification that you are yourself, and just maybe, maybe be held liable if you're trying to get out of paying your taxes.

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                                                                    • YellowPages
                                                                      Shooter Pinks
                                                                      • Mar 2008
                                                                      • 150

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by facialfreak
                                                                      and I just paid my plastic card renewal in march, so they can refund me that too!!
                                                                      Good luck with that plan bru.

                                                                      They charged me for 2 cards on the same account 2 years ago and have promised to give me one for free ever since.

                                                                      Yea, so no. I haven't gotten my card nor my $35.00 back. It was like an ePass donut gift for the office on my behalf I guess.

                                                                      You won't get anything from them, even when they take your money by an internal mistake. They will keep it if they can. Their CS is a fucking joke. They never respond to anything valid, now imagine when they get all these requests for support on the same issue. LMFAO at those in CS dept. Losers

                                                                      Just imagine how much money ePass has confiscated over the last 5 years.

                                                                      Now, imagine how much money they will "win" on June first...

                                                                      I will be the first one in line to "fuck them back".

                                                                      YP

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                                                                      • Michael O
                                                                        More Cowbell
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 10607

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by mb
                                                                        Not sure what is going on with epassporte... I sent the requested info to them weeks ago... they are holding my money and I can't touch it. I thought I was a reputable person in this business... why does this take so long to check a couple of emailed docs?

                                                                        sheesh,

                                                                        marc
                                                                        Can you please email me your UserID then I will look into it.
                                                                        Truth Teller

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                                                                        • Michael O
                                                                          More Cowbell
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 10607

                                                                          #86
                                                                          The TOS you accepted states we can request the documents asked for.
                                                                          If you have specific questions about your account or questions to the documents you have been asked for send me a email [email protected]
                                                                          Truth Teller

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                                                                          • Fabien
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 4789

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Yeah you're right.

                                                                            But it's an abuse, it's dangerous and there is no need to send this. Lots and lots of accounts you are asking informations about are clean, old and never had issues with you guys.
                                                                            So what's the point ? Now you tell me ?
                                                                            I know you're stuck Michael, i know you're probably the only guy for us in here. It's not against you man !
                                                                            Would send this sum of informations online to someone you don't know a thing about ?
                                                                            Hell even my own BANK doesn't require this.
                                                                            There is something else...

                                                                            I ain't 19 ya know...
                                                                            XPICS RULES ! (lol)

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                                                                            • Fabien
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 4789

                                                                              #88
                                                                              bumped bumped

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                                                                              • vod
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2006
                                                                                • 3510

                                                                                #89
                                                                                goodluck with that ;- )

                                                                                Epassporte works for some affiliates ; and doesn;t for others...l;ol


                                                                                Adult Merchant Account

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                                                                                • RayBonga
                                                                                  too cool for highschool
                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 12164

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Fabien
                                                                                  Yeah you're right.

                                                                                  But it's an abuse, it's dangerous and there is no need to send this. Lots and lots of accounts you are asking informations about are clean, old and never had issues with you guys.
                                                                                  So what's the point ? Now you tell me ?
                                                                                  I know you're stuck Michael, i know you're probably the only guy for us in here. It's not against you man !
                                                                                  Would send this sum of informations online to someone you don't know a thing about ?
                                                                                  Hell even my own BANK doesn't require this.
                                                                                  There is something else...

                                                                                  I ain't 19 ya know...
                                                                                  100% right, epass is just being plain abusive with these requests

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                                                                                  • teg0
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                                                    • 4204

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    I don't know how many time I've posted the advice on GFY to get your account verified BEFORE you're asked to because when you have to jump through their verification gauntlet it sucks.

                                                                                    Since i've been verified there hasn't been any problems for years.

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