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  • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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    • Jul 2004
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    #51
    50 Fucking Lefties that make Righties Insane...





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    • dyna mo
      just a fucking jerk
      • Dec 2008
      • 68184

      #52
      5150 posts

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      • EddyTheDog
        Just Doing My Own Thing
        • Jan 2011
        • 25433

        #53
        Originally posted by EddyTheDog
        I wish someone would tell me what this 'HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA' is - If 'we' are planning to take over the world you think someone would have mentioned it to me...
        Well, I got straight on the phone to Homo HQ (The Rainbow House) and spoke directly with President Degeneres - She assures me there is no agenda...

        She mentioned something about the 'Phelps assassination', but I am pretty sure she was joking - Why would we want to kill a cyclist?....

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        • Pornopat
          AdultTubeSubmits.com
          • Dec 2003
          • 10598

          #54
          Originally posted by EddyTheDog
          Well, I got straight on the phone to Homo HQ (The Rainbow House) and spoke directly with President Degeneres - She assures me there is no agenda...

          She mentioned something about the 'Phelps assassination', but I am pretty sure she was joking - Why would we want to kill a cyclist?....
          hahahaha
          https://stripcash.com/sign-up/?userI...fff832eb95ab6a

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          • EddyTheDog
            Just Doing My Own Thing
            • Jan 2011
            • 25433

            #55
            Originally posted by dyna mo
            5150 posts

            Who is that?..

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            • dyna mo
              just a fucking jerk
              • Dec 2008
              • 68184

              #56
              Originally posted by EddyTheDog
              Who is that?..
              amanda bynes

              https://www.google.com/search?q=aman...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

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              • EddyTheDog
                Just Doing My Own Thing
                • Jan 2011
                • 25433

                #57
                Originally posted by dyna mo
                lol - None the wiser really - Definitely having a bad hair day in that pic though...

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                • Vendzilla
                  Biker Gnome
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23200

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

                  The right is just as bad. Don't get me wrong, they are BOTH fucked.
                  I'm Ambidextrous


                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                  No one is afraid of the homosexuals. Get a fucking clue.
                  The ones in the Dorothy costumes are a little unsettling.



                  Glad to have you back AMP
                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                  think about that

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                  • jdubs1982
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 78

                    #59
                    Originally posted by looky_lou
                    Because their shit is effecting everyone, including me. That's why!
                    For a group that HATES "victim mentality" you kids sure love to blame the left for all that is wrong with your life.... someone get upset that you're a racist (be it they boycott you, beat your ass, or whatever) its the lefts fault for forcing PC?... gays don't want to be discrimated against, its not people making a choice for themselves, and changing things how they wan it its a left wing/homosexual agenda..

                    Live your live, handle your business and shut the fuck up, all the bitching about "the left" from you people is annoying. (take "the homosexual agenda for example.. they want to marry, they are fighting for their rights and taking care of business... all I hear from the right are complaints about what they can't do and how everyone else is keeping them down, etc.... grow up)

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                    • Vendzilla
                      Biker Gnome
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23200

                      #60
                      Originally posted by jdubs1982
                      For a group that HATES "victim mentality" you kids sure love to blame the left for all that is wrong with your life.... someone get upset that you're a racist (be it they boycott you, beat your ass, or whatever) its the lefts fault for forcing PC?... gays don't want to be discrimated against, its not people making a choice for themselves, and changing things how they wan it its a left wing/homosexual agenda..

                      Live your live, handle your business and shut the fuck up, all the bitching about "the left" from you people is annoying. (take "the homosexual agenda for example.. they want to marry, they are fighting for their rights and taking care of business... all I hear from the right are complaints about what they can't do and how everyone else is keeping them down, etc.... grow up)
                      What kind of asshole makes a second post on gfy with a lame ass fake nick like jdubs1982?

                      This isn't a dating site asshole, we don't have to put our phone number or our age in our nick, what a fucking moron! LOL
                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                      think about that

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                      • oppoten
                        NAME THE JEW
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 4791

                        #61
                        Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                        She mentioned something about the 'Phelps assassination', but I am pretty sure she was joking - Why would we want to kill a cyclist?....
                        You mean Michael Phelps? He's a swimmer

                        Ian Thorpe is gay though, so maybe he ordered it.

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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68184

                          #62
                          Originally posted by jdubs1982
                          For a group that HATES "victim mentality" you kids sure love to blame the left for all that is wrong with your life.... someone get upset that you're a racist (be it they boycott you, beat your ass, or whatever) its the lefts fault for forcing PC?... gays don't want to be discrimated against, its not people making a choice for themselves, and changing things how they wan it its a left wing/homosexual agenda..

                          Live your live, handle your business and shut the fuck up, all the bitching about "the left" from you people is annoying. (take "the homosexual agenda for example.. they want to marry, they are fighting for their rights and taking care of business... all I hear from the right are complaints about what they can't do and how everyone else is keeping them down, etc.... grow up)
                          shut the fuck up and take your own advice.

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                          • EddyTheDog
                            Just Doing My Own Thing
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 25433

                            #63
                            Originally posted by oppoten
                            You mean Michael Phelps? He's a swimmer

                            Ian Thorpe is gay though, so maybe he ordered it.
                            Oh yeah - Not really my thing either way...

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                            • 2MuchMark
                              Mark of 2Much.net
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 50912

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                              Evolution is not science. It is a fucking fairy tale.
                              Holding up the shield of "Science" to that shit is disingenuous at best, although I call it straight up FRAUD.
                              Science is not a shield. Science is facts proven by multiple people in controlled tests, and the pure search for truth.

                              Religious types and science deniers in general, replace facts with what ever ideas they are most comfortable with, and then make endless mistakes throughout their lives because of it. They exist in a world of denial, and enjoy unquestioning "belief" in what they are told by anyone (clergy, big business) even when it hurts them, or their friends, or the planet.

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                              • jdubs1982
                                Registered User
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 78

                                #65
                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                shut the fuck up and take your own advice.
                                What's the the "online bad ass" version of "I'm rubber you're glue"? I'm not the one sitting around complaining about how the "left" (or right) are such a big impact on my life, you are

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                                • dyna mo
                                  just a fucking jerk
                                  • Dec 2008
                                  • 68184

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by MarkPrince

                                  Religious types and science deniers in general, replace facts with what ever ideas they are most comfortable with, and then make endless mistakes throughout their lives because of it. They exist in a world of denial, and enjoy unquestioning "belief" in what they are told by anyone (clergy, big business) even when it hurts them, or their friends, or the planet.
                                  exactly like what you do here at teh gfy eh.

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                                  • dyna mo
                                    just a fucking jerk
                                    • Dec 2008
                                    • 68184

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by jdubs1982
                                    What's the the "online bad ass" version of "I'm rubber you're glue"? I'm not the one sitting around complaining about how the "left" (or right) are such a big impact on my life, you are
                                    and you can't read good either.

                                    Feel free to learn how to read, then go back and read the thread and realize I never stated such bullshit.

                                    again, you're the one whining about whiners, telling them to shut the fuck up, so again, take your own advice about whining and shut the fuck up.

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                                    • deltav
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2010
                                      • 1243

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                      and you can't read good either.

                                      Feel free to learn how to read, then go back and read the thread and realize I never stated such bullshit.

                                      again, you're the one whining about whiners, telling them to shut the fuck up, so again, take your own advice about whining and shut the fuck up.
                                      Well, it is a political thread started by a known lunatic entitled "You Leftists Are Fucking Insane", so I'd say if there's an appropriate venue for either side to babble at each other this would be it.
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                                      • PR_Glen
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                                        • Oct 2006
                                        • 9058

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                        Multiculturalism = A nondescript race of impoverished worker mutts/mongrels with no family bloodlines, pride or cultural history, wandering around believing they came from monkeys. Nothing to be proud of, nothing to defend, nothing to stand up for, or against. Perfect slaves.

                                        And THAT, is the fucking truth.
                                        pride is a weakness, that has always been the truth.
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                                        • SuckOnThis
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 6844

                                          #70
                                          When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.
                                          Exodus 21:7-11


                                          And we're fucking insane

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                                          • dyna mo
                                            just a fucking jerk
                                            • Dec 2008
                                            • 68184

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by deltav
                                            Well, it is a political thread started by a known lunatic entitled "You Leftists Are Fucking Insane", so I'd say if there's an appropriate venue for either side to babble at each other this would be it.
                                            that's why I told the guy to take his own advice and shut the fuck up! babble on.

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                                            • Markul
                                              Likes Pie
                                              • Dec 2007
                                              • 12404

                                              #72
                                              Congrats on 50K?
                                              But.... I pulled out...

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                                              • Dead
                                                They left the door open
                                                • Apr 2003
                                                • 4746

                                                #73
                                                Fuck yeah!!!!
                                                Wait for it...







                                                Wait for it.....














                                                Wait for it........






























                                                Best thread I have read in years....and well your at it, let us have a jab at "political correctness" That issue is going to the shitter fast, unentitled fuckers with nothing to bring to the table but their hands out.....Fuck em
                                                "IT" has hit critical mass, and everyone is wearing blinders, Unreal.

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                                                • JA$ON
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                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                  • 1329

                                                  #74
                                                  The left thinks with their heart, not their head

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                                                  • twinvisible
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                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 376

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                    The left thinks with their heart, not their head
                                                    Hmmm. what does the right think with? Not allowing something as trivial as gay marriage is based in some sort of deep thought or are they just religitards clinging to Leviticus?

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                                                    • JA$ON
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                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                      • 1329

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by twinvisible
                                                      Hmmm. what does the right think with? Not allowing something as trivial as gay marriage is based in some sort of deep thought or are they just religitards clinging to Leviticus?
                                                      I dont agree with the right either, lol. But to answer your question, I guess Id have to say their God?

                                                      FEDERAL Government should do 3 things.....

                                                      1. Provide a National Defense

                                                      2. Uphold Individuals Property rights

                                                      3. Operate a fair and swift Judicial system where losers are required to pay the winners legal fees (to avoid frivolous lawsuits)

                                                      3.5 And I do believe the EPA is a good thing.

                                                      Other than that, The federal government shouldn't be involved (IMO). Leave everything else to the States, Private individuals, Charities, industry organizations etc.

                                                      I believe if you go back to a time when the Fed had a much more limited role in the day to day lives of its citizens, things were handled just fine. OSHA, FDA, Bureau of Indian affairs, regulations on top of regulations. Things are not "better" as a result of all this intrusion.

                                                      Native americanas are a GREAT example. No group is "helped" more by the government, and as a result....no group is in worse shape. They are giving huge swaths of land (reservations) but they do not own this land. Its held in Trust. They generally don't build, modify, improve the land because its not THIERS. They have to get approval for almost any building etc and can't sell it. How often do you see someone renting an apartment put in beautiful wood floors? Never, because they can't realize the value they are adding to the property.
                                                      And because they are given help (food stamps, disability etc etc etc) from the Gov at a much higher rate than anyone else, but not enough to live a nice comfortable life, they have become dependent on this nanny state we've created. Don't agree? Check this out....

                                                      The Lumbee tribe refuses to be "recognized" by the Government and take ANY handouts that are given to Tribes in the Federal System (the government was trying to force them to take millions to help them and they are fighting to not take it because they don't want to be beholden to the strings that come with it) The have NO CASINOS, They own their OWN land. And guess what, surprise, lol, when you give people opportunity to own and improve their land, start businesses and don't let them suckle of the nanny state tit....they thrive! This tribe has made tens of millions from banking, construction and on and on. Indians succeed at the same rate as any other group when you just leave them alone! Give them individual freedom, liberty and let them participate in the free market and they will do just fine.....just like everyone else does when given the same thing.

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                                                      • deltav
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                                                        #77
                                                        Shame, I was really looking forward to hearing Amp's alternative to evolution, now he's MIA...
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                                                        • blackmonsters
                                                          Making PHP work
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                                                          • 20996

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by JA$ON

                                                          Native americanas are a GREAT example. No group is "helped" more by the government, and as a result....no group is in worse shape. They are giving huge swaths of land (reservations) but they do not own this land. Its held in Trust. They generally don't build, modify, improve the land because its not THIERS. They have to get approval for almost any building etc and can't sell it. How often do you see someone renting an apartment put in beautiful wood floors? Never, because they can't realize the value they are adding to the property.
                                                          And because they are given help (food stamps, disability etc etc etc) from the Gov at a much higher rate than anyone else, but not enough to live a nice comfortable life, they have become dependent on this nanny state we've created. Don't agree? Check this out....

                                                          The Lumbee tribe refuses to be "recognized" by the Government and take ANY handouts that are given to Tribes in the Federal System (the government was trying to force them to take millions to help them and they are fighting to not take it because they don't want to be beholden to the strings that come with it) The have NO CASINOS, They own their OWN land. And guess what, surprise, lol, when you give people opportunity to own and improve their land, start businesses and don't let them suckle of the nanny state tit....they thrive! This tribe has made tens of millions from banking, construction and on and on. Indians succeed at the same rate as any other group when you just leave them alone! Give them individual freedom, liberty and let them participate in the free market and they will do just fine.....just like everyone else does when given the same thing.

                                                          Your example has so much in it that makes me cringe.
                                                          The reservations were open prisons. Natives who left the reservation were forced back by the government.

                                                          Reservations were created to starve the natives out of existence and the nickle and
                                                          dimes we have given them in the last 60 years is a joke compared to the damage done.

                                                          Terrible example.

                                                          It's more like they thrived after we stopped trying to starve them to death.
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                                                          • SuckOnThis
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 6844

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                            I dont agree with the right either, lol. But to answer your question, I guess Id have to say their God?

                                                            FEDERAL Government should do 3 things.....

                                                            1. Provide a National Defense

                                                            2. Uphold Individuals Property rights

                                                            3. Operate a fair and swift Judicial system where losers are required to pay the winners legal fees (to avoid frivolous lawsuits)

                                                            3.5 And I do believe the EPA is a good thing.

                                                            Other than that, The federal government shouldn't be involved (IMO). Leave everything else to the States, Private individuals, Charities, industry organizations etc.

                                                            I believe if you go back to a time when the Fed had a much more limited role in the day to day lives of its citizens, things were handled just fine. OSHA, FDA, Bureau of Indian affairs, regulations on top of regulations. Things are not "better" as a result of all this intrusion.

                                                            Native americanas are a GREAT example. No group is "helped" more by the government, and as a result....no group is in worse shape. They are giving huge swaths of land (reservations) but they do not own this land. Its held in Trust. They generally don't build, modify, improve the land because its not THIERS. They have to get approval for almost any building etc and can't sell it. How often do you see someone renting an apartment put in beautiful wood floors? Never, because they can't realize the value they are adding to the property.
                                                            And because they are given help (food stamps, disability etc etc etc) from the Gov at a much higher rate than anyone else, but not enough to live a nice comfortable life, they have become dependent on this nanny state we've created. Don't agree? Check this out....

                                                            The Lumbee tribe refuses to be "recognized" by the Government and take ANY handouts that are given to Tribes in the Federal System (the government was trying to force them to take millions to help them and they are fighting to not take it because they don't want to be beholden to the strings that come with it) The have NO CASINOS, They own their OWN land. And guess what, surprise, lol, when you give people opportunity to own and improve their land, start businesses and don't let them suckle of the nanny state tit....they thrive! This tribe has made tens of millions from banking, construction and on and on. Indians succeed at the same rate as any other group when you just leave them alone! Give them individual freedom, liberty and let them participate in the free market and they will do just fine.....just like everyone else does when given the same thing.

                                                            Steal someone's land and then whine about them getting 'helped' when they get a pebble of it back. You can't make this shit up.

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                                                            • twinvisible
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                                                              • Feb 2005
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                              Other than that, The federal government shouldn't be involved (IMO). Leave everything else to the States, Private individuals, Charities, industry organizations etc.
                                                              Well healthcare and wall street are two examples of leaving things to the private sector. How has that worked out? The largest recession and the highest health care costs in the world.

                                                              Texas' population has 25% uninsured population (a nice bunch are kids with no options)... another example of leaving it to the states and states failing miserably.

                                                              Charities cannot pick up the tab for all the failings of states and private companies... I know Libertarians like to think this but it doesnt happen

                                                              What country follows the Libertarian m.o.? Give me one example where this works. Somalia?

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                                                              • deltav
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                                                                • May 2010
                                                                • 1243

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                                Native americanas are a GREAT example. No group is "helped" more by the government, and as a result....no group is in worse shape. They are giving huge swaths of land (reservations) but they do not own this land. Its held in Trust. They generally don't build, modify, improve the land because its not THIERS. They have to get approval for almost any building etc and can't sell it. How often do you see someone renting an apartment put in beautiful wood floors? Never, because they can't realize the value they are adding to the property.
                                                                And because they are given help (food stamps, disability etc etc etc) from the Gov at a much higher rate than anyone else, but not enough to live a nice comfortable life, they have become dependent on this nanny state we've created. Don't agree? Check this out....

                                                                The Lumbee tribe refuses to be "recognized" by the Government and take ANY handouts that are given to Tribes in the Federal System (the government was trying to force them to take millions to help them and they are fighting to not take it because they don't want to be beholden to the strings that come with it) The have NO CASINOS, They own their OWN land. And guess what, surprise, lol, when you give people opportunity to own and improve their land, start businesses and don't let them suckle of the nanny state tit....they thrive! This tribe has made tens of millions from banking, construction and on and on. Indians succeed at the same rate as any other group when you just leave them alone! Give them individual freedom, liberty and let them participate in the free market and they will do just fine.....just like everyone else does when given the same thing.
                                                                As someone who has worked firsthand with Native American & reservation issues and seen a lot of the nuances in play both in person and documented in detail, I will say you have no idea what you're talking about. This is talking-out-the-ass at its finest, with a facile libertarian case-study thrown in for good measure. Whatever.
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                                                                • blackmonsters
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                                                  Steal someone's land and then whine about them getting 'helped' when they get a pebble of it back. You can't make this shit up.
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                                                                  • JA$ON
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                                                                    • Aug 2007
                                                                    • 1329

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by deltav
                                                                    As someone who has worked firsthand with Native American & reservation issues and seen a lot of the nuances in play both in person and documented in detail, I will say you have no idea what you're talking about. This is talking-out-the-ass at its finest, with a facile libertarian case-study thrown in for good measure. Whatever.
                                                                    So you think that Native americans should NOT own their land and NEED us to take care of them because they are incapable of doing it themselves? So keep things as is then...right?

                                                                    They are NO DIFFERENT than any other group of people, they are smart, capable people who can and DO accomplish great things. Im just suggesting we ALLOW them to succeed. Shouldn't they have the same freedoms I enjoy, no?
                                                                    Last edited by JA$ON; 05-05-2014, 03:12 PM.

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                                                                    • JA$ON
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                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                      • 1329

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by twinvisible
                                                                      Well healthcare and wall street are two examples of leaving things to the private sector. How has that worked out? The largest recession and the highest health care costs in the world.

                                                                      Texas' population has 25% uninsured population (a nice bunch are kids with no options)... another example of leaving it to the states and states failing miserably.

                                                                      Charities cannot pick up the tab for all the failings of states and private companies... I know Libertarians like to think this but it doesnt happen

                                                                      What country follows the Libertarian m.o.? Give me one example where this works. Somalia?
                                                                      Obviously a PURE libertarian system will never happen. We are far to large a nation to strip it back, but its that "general direction" that I (again, just my opinion) would like to see things go. Id just be happy with seeing us act like adults. Maybe not spend more than we have? LOL.

                                                                      And if you think the banking system is "unregulated" you're kidding yourself. And the truth is....you can add to the tens of thousands of pages of regulations that exist and people will usually find a way to avoid / circumvent / eliminate / backdoor them.

                                                                      Do you feel that strong regulations have been put in place since 2008 that keep institutions from engaging in the type of risky behavior that they were beforehand? (serious question)

                                                                      I have my opinion, but I enjoy debate and listening to other as well. Ive changed more than a few opinions because of a good debate

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                                                                      • blackmonsters
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                                        So you think that Native americans should own their land and NEED us to take care of them because they are incapable of doing it themselves?

                                                                        They are NO DIFFERENT than any other group of people, they should have the same freedoms, no?
                                                                        Plain and simple :

                                                                        Blacks did better after slavery because they were not "land locked" by a hostile government.
                                                                        Owning land and being shot at for trying to leave it to conduct trade was a serious problem.


                                                                        End.
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                                                                        • JA$ON
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                                                          Steal someone's land and then whine about them getting 'helped' when they get a pebble of it back. You can't make this shit up.
                                                                          did you read it?

                                                                          Im saying they SHOULD OWN THIER OWN LAND. Right now they do not.

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                                                                          • JA$ON
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                            Plain and simple :

                                                                            Blacks did better after slavery because they were not "land locked" by a hostile government.
                                                                            Owning land and being shot at for trying to leave it to conduct trade was a serious problem.


                                                                            End.
                                                                            Being shot at for anything is a serious problem I think

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                                                                            • brentbacardi
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by twinvisible
                                                                              Well healthcare and wall street are two examples of leaving things to the private sector.
                                                                              Um actually no. If it was left to the private sector, most banks would be out of business and new ones would be taking over that did not engage in risky behaviors. Survival of the fittest works if you let it. Those scum bankers should be out of jobs, not taking down big bonuses on the tax dollar.
                                                                              Go Fuck Yourself!

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                                                                              • JA$ON
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by brentbacardi
                                                                                Um actually no. If it was left to the private sector, most banks would be out of business and new ones would be taking over that did not engage in risky behaviors. Survival of the fittest works if you let it. Those scum bankers should be out of jobs, not taking down big bonuses on the tax dollar.
                                                                                Agreed, letting them fail and not bailing them out (while it would have hurt in the short run) would have been a better solution.

                                                                                You can't play capitalism "half way". If you want to claim to be in favor of free markets (as BOTH major parties are) you HAVE to let the bad go under. The PROBLEM is that politicians are so afraid of upsetting anyone and loosing votes, they try to have their cake and eat it to. Everyone (for the most part) is in favor of a capitalist system in this country, but if when the banks were failing, the President had said "part of this Capitalism that we all love so much is letting the bad businesses fail and they will be replaced by fresh, hopefully stronger businesses", the voices claiming he was letting thousands of jobs disappear would have been so loud, he wouldn't have survived it.

                                                                                To bad....people want the fun parts of a free market, but they never want to suck it up in the lean times. And ALL systems have ups and downs. We just been borrowing $ (China) or printing currency through the down times so it looks like we don't have any , HAHAH. Its going to hit a brick wall at some point.

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                                                                                • blackmonsters
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by brentbacardi
                                                                                  Um actually no. If it was left to the private sector, most banks would be out of business and new ones would be taking over that did not engage in risky behaviors. Survival of the fittest works if you let it. Those scum bankers should be out of jobs, not taking down big bonuses on the tax dollar.
                                                                                  Nice theory, but here is real history for you to digest :


                                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_scandal

                                                                                  The savings and loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s (commonly dubbed the S&L crisis) was the failure of 1,043 out of the 3,234 savings and loan associations in the United States from 1986 to 1995:

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                                                                                  lax regulatory oversight allowed some CEOs of S&Ls to become "reactive" control frauds by inventing creative accounting strategies that turned their businesses into Ponzi schemes

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                                                                                    Some of the most important characteristics of a savings and loan association are:

                                                                                    It is generally a locally owned and privately managed home financing institution.
                                                                                    It receives individuals' savings and uses these funds to make long-term amortized loans to home purchasers.
                                                                                    It makes loans for the construction, purchase, repair, or refinancing of houses.
                                                                                    It is state or federally chartered.[1]

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                                                                                    • JA$ON
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                      Nice theory, but here is real history for you to digest :


                                                                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_scandal
                                                                                      Your making his point for him

                                                                                      "failure of 1,043 out of the 3,234"

                                                                                      1,043 went under and were NOT bailed out...only the solvent institutions remained.

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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                                                        Your making his point for him

                                                                                        "failure of 1,043 out of the 3,234"

                                                                                        1,043 went under and were NOT bailed out...only the solvent institutions remained.
                                                                                        So you think it makes sense for everybody in 1/3 of the nations PRIVATE banks to lose every dime they have?
                                                                                        Yet no other type banks failed.


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                                                                                        • brentbacardi
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                          So you think it makes sense for everybody in 1/3 of the nations PRIVATE banks to lose every dime they have?
                                                                                          Yet no other type banks failed.


                                                                                          As much as I think almost all government sucks. I do think FDIC is one of the few things to keep around although probably with some major changes.
                                                                                          Go Fuck Yourself!

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                                                                                          • JA$ON
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                            So you think it makes sense for everybody in 1/3 of the nations PRIVATE banks to lose every dime they have?
                                                                                            Yet no other type banks failed.


                                                                                            Why would you assume I would think people loosing money was good? I just said that the post you made was proving his point. The bad go out of business, the strong survive.

                                                                                            NOW...that happens on a small scale every day, restaurant has bad food, it goes under...one makes a heat steak, it survives. Sometimes it happens on a much larger scale (like the S&L crisis or a huge wealth boom) but there are billions of dollars being made every day. There are big wins and big losses.

                                                                                            If you look at the 10 years surrounding the S&L cruising, HUGE wealth was created in this country and yes, that scandal lost 100 billion for people, and thats not fun for them, but as a whole, the nation prospered.

                                                                                            If I told you US citizens became richer to the tune of 10 trillion dollars that decade, you'd say it was fruitful, no? Of COURSE there are losses, but the losses are FAR outweighed by the gains.

                                                                                            Time to head to dinner, I'll teach you more tomorrow, JK I like a good debate

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                                                                                            • blackmonsters
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                                                              Why would you assume I would think people loosing money was good? I just said that the post you made was proving his point. The bad go out of business, the strong survive.

                                                                                              NOW...that happens on a small scale every day, restaurant has bad food, it goes under...one makes a heat steak, it survives. Sometimes it happens on a much larger scale (like the S&L crisis or a huge wealth boom) but there are billions of dollars being made every day. There are big wins and big losses.

                                                                                              If you look at the 10 years surrounding the S&L cruising, HUGE wealth was created in this country and yes, that scandal lost 100 billion for people, and thats not fun for them, but as a whole, the nation prospered.

                                                                                              If I told you US citizens became richer to the tune of 10 trillion dollars that decade, you'd say it was fruitful, no? Of COURSE there are losses, but the losses are FAR outweighed by the gains.

                                                                                              Time to head to dinner, I'll teach you more tomorrow, JK I like a good debate
                                                                                              To allow those types of massive failures without trying to prevent it is reckless government and blind idiocy.

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                                                                                              • twinvisible
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                                                                And if you think the banking system is "unregulated" you're kidding yourself. And the truth is....you can add to the tens of thousands of pages of regulations that exist and people will usually find a way to avoid / circumvent / eliminate / backdoor them.
                                                                                                Therefore peel back all regulations because no regulations work?

                                                                                                Originally posted by JA$ON
                                                                                                Do you feel that strong regulations have been put in place since 2008 that keep institutions from engaging in the type of risky behavior that they were beforehand? (serious question)
                                                                                                No because these regulations put in place were lobbied hard by the banking sector itself and don't have teeth. Does that mean we should adopt a free market approach? Probably not because big money in big industries will just isolate themselves into a protectionist bubble and you will get the same result you have no but with no regulations... that doesn't seem effective.


                                                                                                Originally posted by brentbacardi
                                                                                                Um actually no. If it was left to the private sector, most banks would be out of business and new ones would be taking over that did not engage in risky behaviors. Survival of the fittest works if you let it. Those scum bankers should be out of jobs, not taking down big bonuses on the tax dollar.
                                                                                                So the American population should endure a complete depression as the "free market" sorts things out? If you want to dissuade confidence in any system then this approach would be optimal. Why would anyone trust the new companies coming in without regulations in place?

                                                                                                You could instill trust by setting up firm regulations and these banks adjust or die. We have a 300 million person clientele. If companies don't want to adjust to a market that is far different than the current one then they're done. Someone else will gladly step up to the new regulations and thrive. Not being able to leverage at 20 to 1 isn't the end of the world
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                                                                                                • Vendzilla
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  See what Amp started, I really missed him!
                                                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                  think about that

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                                                                                                  • Grapesoda
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                                                    pride is a weakness, that has always been the truth.
                                                                                                    well except for gay pride, brown pride, black pride etc... right?

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                                                                                                    • Emma
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                                                                                                      #100

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