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  • DWB
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    • Jul 2003
    • 31779

    #1

    More felons allowed to enlist into the Military

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080421/...ilitary_felons

    And when they are out of criminals who want to enlist, is the draft far behind?
  • mozadek
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2008
    • 1325

    #2
    As long as it puts off a draft for the time being I am all for felons fighting in the war. Maybe Bush should do what Stalin did during WW2, tell prisoners if they fight in the war they will bet set free but send their asses back to prison when the war is over. Stalin was an asshole, hahahaha.

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    • Peaches
      Old broad
      • Oct 2002
      • 13933

      #3
      Geeze, spend 5 minutes and actually read the article. I certainly have no problems with the enlistees they are talking about getting waivers to serve.

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      • After Shock Media
        It's coming look busy
        • Mar 2001
        • 35299

        #4
        Im up for them starting a draft. Though I would imagine that they would allow illegals to enlist for citizenship status when done. Wait that sounds like a bad sci fi movie.

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        • DWB
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          • Jul 2003
          • 31779

          #5
          Originally posted by Peaches
          Geeze, spend 5 minutes and actually read the article. I certainly have no problems with the enlistees they are talking about getting waivers to serve.
          I didn't say I had a problem with it, I'm saying that they are really hurting for troops.

          All men and women should be allowed to serve if they choose. Criminals can kill just as easy as non-criminals do, no need to discriminate.

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          • Peaches
            Old broad
            • Oct 2002
            • 13933

            #6
            Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
            I didn't say I had a problem with it, I'm saying that they are really hurting for troops.

            All men and women should be allowed to serve if they choose. Criminals can kill just as easy as non-criminals do, no need to discriminate.
            Again, if you actually READ the article, it sure as hell doesn't look like they are "hurting for troops". When they start offering the "jail or military" option that they did decades ago, THEN start worrying. Letting someone in because they had sex with their girlfriend when they were a teen is hardly opening up the floodgates for hard core felons to start filling the ranks.

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            • directfiesta
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Oct 2002
              • 30191

              #7
              Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
              http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080421/...ilitary_felons

              And when they are out of criminals who want to enlist, is the draft far behind?
              .. illegal immigrants will be next ...

              enlist .. get a green card ....
              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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              • boneprone
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jan 2001
                • 34415

                #8
                Send the Illegal Mexicans over. Let them fight for Citzenship.

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                • mozadek
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                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1325

                  #9
                  Originally posted by boneprone
                  Send the Illegal Mexicans over. Let them fight for Citzenship.


                  You got that right, you want citizenship, you have to earn it.

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                  • TurboAngel
                    H.B.I.C.
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 30122

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mozadek
                    As long as it puts off a draft for the time being I am all for felons fighting in the war. Maybe Bush should do what Stalin did during WW2, tell prisoners if they fight in the war they will bet set free but send their asses back to prison when the war is over. Stalin was an asshole, hahahaha.
                    Sorry but that made me laugh sooooo fucking hard!


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                    • BradM
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                      • Dec 2003
                      • 3397

                      #11
                      Fight for citizenship is a great idea. Do you have any clue how many people will come to fight who will WANT to fight?

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                      • aico
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                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14748

                        #12
                        Maybe if the started the draft, more people would actually give a shit and stop putting their heads in the sand.

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                        • Scootermuze
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                          • Dec 2001
                          • 4513

                          #13
                          Originally posted by aico
                          Maybe if the started the draft, more people would actually give a shit and stop putting their heads in the sand.
                          There is a draft of sorts... under the guise of the stop-loss policy..

                          It wasn't just a movie..

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                          • GetSCORECash
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                            • Mar 2008
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                            #14
                            they should put them on the front lines, if we had one!

                            To bad these guys will be the only smart ones that will not get shot or blown to pieces.
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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089

                              #15
                              Too bad none of you people remember the 60's and 70's. There is nothing new here.

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                              • EZRhino
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                                • Jul 2003
                                • 6258

                                #16
                                It will be interesting to see how many of those felons repeat offened while in the service? Some people need a second chance in life and sometimes the Marines are successful at giving them that chance. But not always.

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                                • farkedup
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                                  • Nov 2007
                                  • 2490

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                  Im up for them starting a draft. Though I would imagine that they would allow illegals to enlist for citizenship status when done. Wait that sounds like a bad sci fi movie.
                                  let them go kill some bugs
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                                  • Vexes

                                    #18
                                    I am all for citizenship for service. Just like Starship Troopers!!

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                                    • boneprone
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                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 34415

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                      Fight for citizenship is a great idea. Do you have any clue how many people will come to fight who will WANT to fight?
                                      The critics say its a form of racism.. I see it as the opposite.

                                      If I saw a Mexican dude who I knew fought for this Country to live in I would honor him. Look up to him. It would be an honor. People wouldnt be looking down on the minorities as much. You couldnt. Because they fought to have a family here.

                                      Honorable.


                                      My Grandfather did it in WWII.

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                                      • boneprone
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                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 34415

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by aico
                                        Maybe if the started the draft, more people would actually give a shit and stop putting their heads in the sand.
                                        Exactly. As soon as the draft becomes more of a realistic issue, people will start taking this war more seriously.

                                        Until then American Idol is more important for middle and upper class America to follow.

                                        Until the Sons of America's Households are drafted out to war people really and honestly dont give shit. ITs tea time talk. Draft away our sons and its Riot time like the Vietnam Era. People will rage.


                                        Maybe its needed. Just to get America to WAKE THE FUCK UP.

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                                        • I'm Looking For A...
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                                          #21
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                                          • I'm Looking For A...
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                                            #22
                                            btw, Id rather a buncha felons were used as initial infantry before our boys went in ANY day of the week. No need for youngins out of high school to take a bullet in the head when we got tons of useless assholes taking up tax money to rot in prison. Chew that
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                                            • Kevsh
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                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 8619

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Peaches
                                              Again, if you actually READ the article, it sure as hell doesn't look like they are "hurting for troops". When they start offering the "jail or military" option that they did decades ago, THEN start worrying. Letting someone in because they had sex with their girlfriend when they were a teen is hardly opening up the floodgates for hard core felons to start filling the ranks.
                                              I think you misunderstood his point (and assuming I *did* understand it), that they are loosening restrictions on enlisting because the U.S. is getting desperate to recruit more troops - it's not *who* they are letting in, just the fact that they are making it easer.

                                              It's no secret there has been a shortfall of recruits for years and clearly they are trying new ways to get people to enlist. Loosening restrictions is just one of many tactics.

                                              (Of course, the bad publicity over the "Stop-Less" idea doesn't help their case much)

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                                              • Scootermuze
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                                                • Dec 2001
                                                • 4513

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                Too bad none of you people remember the 60's and 70's. There is nothing new here.
                                                I remember that era quite well.. Did my time in and around Ben Wah..

                                                What ya have new is the fact that we're runnin' thin on troups..

                                                We had the draft back then...

                                                The current conundrum is quite new..

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                                                • baddog
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 107089

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                  I remember that era quite well.. Did my time in and around Ben Wah..

                                                  What ya have new is the fact that we're runnin' thin on troups..

                                                  We had the draft back then...

                                                  The current conundrum is quite new..
                                                  However, we did also let convicts serve in lieu of prison; and pretty sure we traded green cards for service, if memory serves.

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                                                  • Scootermuze
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                    • 4513

                                                    #26
                                                    Tis true..

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                                                    • Peaches
                                                      Old broad
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 13933

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Kevsh
                                                      I think you misunderstood his point (and assuming I *did* understand it), that they are loosening restrictions on enlisting because the U.S. is getting desperate to recruit more troops - it's not *who* they are letting in, just the fact that they are making it easer.

                                                      It's no secret there has been a shortfall of recruits for years and clearly they are trying new ways to get people to enlist. Loosening restrictions is just one of many tactics.

                                                      (Of course, the bad publicity over the "Stop-Less" idea doesn't help their case much)
                                                      Dude, READ THE ARTICLE. These are petty things. Hell, there are kids not getting in because of bunions, asthma, if they've been on any treatment for ADD in the last 12 months, homeschooled, etc.

                                                      Waivers must be approved by an officer who is ranked as a brigadier general or above, and recruits must have written recommendations and endorsements from community leaders showing they would be a good bet for the military.
                                                      Does that really sound like they're just letting in the scum of the earth because they're desperate or some movie came out?

                                                      The restrictions for the military have been INCREDIBLY tight for years and they are loosening them up a teeny tiny bit. It's still 100X harder to get in than it was even just 30 years ago.

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                                                      • baddog
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 107089

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Peaches
                                                        It's still 100X harder to get in than it was even just 30 years ago.
                                                        A lot easier to get out as well.

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                                                        • D Ghost
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                                                          • May 2006
                                                          • 9819

                                                          #29
                                                          yeah they need peeps now. and soon they will be bribing kids to join by letting them drink when 18.

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                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 30307

                                                            #30
                                                            I think the Military should offer service for time as a standard much more so than what is happening right now.

                                                            And Immigrants of course I wouldnt mind that one bit.

                                                            Fact is the USA needs way more soldiers than present.
                                                            Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 04-21-2008, 05:39 PM.

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                                                            • nico-t
                                                              emperor of my world
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 29901

                                                              #31
                                                              they should make some kind of law when you run out of cannon fodder you dont select from the bottom to top but from the top to bottom. That way the president would be the first to be on the front line, a guarantee he would be ending the war within seconds

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                                                              • tony299
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                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 57021

                                                                #32
                                                                They will not start a draft because then people will become very aware and they dont want that. It's easy to say stay in Iraq fight forever but when its their son or daughter being shipped off because they were drafted.Then the tune will change radically they dont want that.

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                                                                • cherrylula
                                                                  lol
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 15969

                                                                  #33
                                                                  They will always have Americans willing to fight. They won't need a draft.

                                                                  The middle class is nice and fat. Literally.

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                                                                  • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                    • 38323

                                                                    #34
                                                                    How ironic - I thought that felons were prohibited from possessing fireams...





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                                                                    • theking
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                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 21053

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                      There is a draft of sorts... under the guise of the stop-loss policy..

                                                                      It wasn't just a movie..
                                                                      That is not a draft of any sort...it is a contractual obligation.
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                                                                      • theking
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                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                        • 21053

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080421/...ilitary_felons

                                                                        And when they are out of criminals who want to enlist, is the draft far behind?
                                                                        During the Second World War...even with the draft they still intoduced waviers...the same during the Korean conflict and the Vietnam conflict. When the military needs warm bodies they relax requirements...there is nothing new about this.
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                                                                        • czarina
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                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                          • 10751

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I don't see what the big deal is. Those guys, convicted felons or not, have to find work somewhere, and probably being in the Army will keep them from straying again.

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                                                                          • Snake Doctor
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                                                                            • Mar 2001
                                                                            • 13449

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I think these are jobs that we should definitely outsource to India and China.
                                                                            sig too big

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                                                                            • DWB
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 31779

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                              Again, if you actually READ the article, it sure as hell doesn't look like they are "hurting for troops". When they start offering the "jail or military" option that they did decades ago, THEN start worrying. Letting someone in because they had sex with their girlfriend when they were a teen is hardly opening up the floodgates for hard core felons to start filling the ranks.
                                                                              It is because they are hurting for troops. It's not a secret that military enlistment is at an all time low.
                                                                              Last edited by DWB; 04-21-2008, 10:08 PM.

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                                                                              • DWB
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                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 31779

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                They will not start a draft because then people will become very aware and they dont want that. It's easy to say stay in Iraq fight forever but when its their son or daughter being shipped off because they were drafted.Then the tune will change radically they dont want that.
                                                                                While in theory I agree with you, the sad fact of the matter is they american people won't have a choice. They always do what they are told, even if they disagree. They may protest, but it's not going to change anything.

                                                                                If you or I had a child that was drafted, honestly what would we do about it? Personal income taxes are not fair either and outside of getting creative about our write-offs or business structure, not a damn thing we can do about it.

                                                                                I'm not saying there will be a draft, I'm only commenting that if there was, we'd do nothing about it but bitch and moan.

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                                                                                • The Judge
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                                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                                  • 1647

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  it has always been like that

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                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                    • 107089

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                    While in theory I agree with you, the sad fact of the matter is they american people won't have a choice. They always do what they are told, even if they disagree. They may protest, but it's not going to change anything.

                                                                                    If you or I had a child that was drafted, honestly what would we do about it? Personal income taxes are not fair either and outside of getting creative about our write-offs or business structure, not a damn thing we can do about it.

                                                                                    I'm not saying there will be a draft, I'm only commenting that if there was, we'd do nothing about it but bitch and moan.
                                                                                    Once again, you are clueless.

                                                                                    I can assure you that if there was a draft you would see change. Just look back 35 years.

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                                                                                    • Scootermuze
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                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                      • 4513

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by theking
                                                                                      That is not a draft of any sort...it is a contractual obligation.
                                                                                      It's an involuntary extension of a contractual obligation.. Big difference..

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