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  • AK
    MadZuma
    • Nov 2003
    • 6436

    #1

    *** OPINIONS on Whitelabels *** experts needed!

    1. why do you need whitelabels?

    2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you?

    3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?
    honestly, these 3 terms sometimes confuse me.

    the purpose of this thread is to help affiliate programs who are thinking of offering whitelabel solutions,
    to get an idea what affiliates are actually looking for.
    (yes i know we can't make everyone happy... LOL)

    also to help existing whitelabel offerings make improvement when necessary.
    (we would definitely improve our tool when possible)
    Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
    ak at madzuma.com
    skype me - alfonsus.com
  • Datinggold-Dan
    AK owns me!
    • Feb 2008
    • 91

    #2
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    • AK
      MadZuma
      • Nov 2003
      • 6436

      #3
      lol Dan.

      i hope we can get general opinions on this thread, it seems like every week i am seeing "spam me with white labels' threads, yet when i posted a thread like this, no one really cares?

      lol
      Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
      ak at madzuma.com
      skype me - alfonsus.com

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      • Asthma
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2001
        • 682

        #4
        What i really want know is who copy whos sig ?
        AdultMovieClub.com
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        You can have your own white labeled DVD download site with matching gallery templates and banners in just a few hours.

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        • faxxaff
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 2134

          #5
          Whitelabels are a thing of the past. Google will easily sniff the duplicate content and kick your white label into black hell. It's pretty much the same problem like with vanity and subdomains ..... It worked well for a few years, but now it is out of fashion.
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          • AK
            MadZuma
            • Nov 2003
            • 6436

            #6
            Originally posted by faxxaff
            Whitelabels are a thing of the past. Google will easily sniff the duplicate content and kick your white label into black hell. It's pretty much the same problem like with vanity and subdomains ..... It worked well for a few years, but now it is out of fashion.
            good point, but something tells me that it is still going on, there are still demands out there from affiliates.
            Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
            ak at madzuma.com
            skype me - alfonsus.com

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            • AK
              MadZuma
              • Nov 2003
              • 6436

              #7
              Originally posted by Asthma
              What i really want know is who copy whos sig ?
              you can look at the what it says underneath the nicknames, who owns whom... LOL

              sorry Dan, we had a deal
              Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
              ak at madzuma.com
              skype me - alfonsus.com

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              • OMG Jim
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2005
                • 3153

                #8
                1. why do you need whitelabels?

                Programs that want to develop their brand name to the fullest extent want the perception that they can offer a broad range of products and webcams are an integral part of the mix. A true white label solution will give the program the opportunity to brand the product at all levels, i.e. their name and logo and design appears on all pages and consoles with no inference to the actually cam provider. This gives the impression that the cam program is in fact part of their brand.

                2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you?

                Being able to seamlessly integrate the programs graphics into the webcam system and not having the name or the webcam provider appear ANYWHERE.

                3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?

                White Label - Cam program provides the guts and allows the program using the cams to utilize ALL their own graphics.

                Co-brand - Cam provider and the program using the product will BOTH have their names displayed in the graphics of the homepage as well as on all consoles and any other pages. The color & theme of the program using the cam product is generally adhered to giving the product the look and feel of all the programs pages.

                Custom Skin - Can refer to the webcam company providing the graphics to be used with either the White Label or Co-branded Solution.

                This is how I understand all of this AK. If anyone has a different answer please let us know so we can all be on the same page.
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                • Dwreck
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 7362

                  #9
                  Im just going to finish up my lunch and post Ak.

                  this should be informative yet spammy at the same time. I luv it!
                  Derek *Dwreck* Smout
                  Program Manager
                  Icq 165976549 Skype derekthomassmout

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                  • AK
                    MadZuma
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 6436

                    #10
                    Originally posted by AlmightyJim
                    1. why do you need whitelabels?

                    Programs that want to develop their brand name to the fullest extent want the perception that they can offer a broad range of products and webcams are an integral part of the mix. A true white label solution will give the program the opportunity to brand the product at all levels, i.e. their name and logo and design appears on all pages and consoles with no inference to the actually cam provider. This gives the impression that the cam program is in fact part of their brand.

                    2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you?

                    Being able to seamlessly integrate the programs graphics into the webcam system and not having the name or the webcam provider appear ANYWHERE.

                    3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?

                    White Label - Cam program provides the guts and allows the program using the cams to utilize ALL their own graphics.

                    Co-brand - Cam provider and the program using the product will BOTH have their names displayed in the graphics of the homepage as well as on all consoles and any other pages. The color & theme of the program using the cam product is generally adhered to giving the product the look and feel of all the programs pages.

                    Custom Skin - Can refer to the webcam company providing the graphics to be used with either the White Label or Co-branded Solution.

                    This is how I understand all of this AK. If anyone has a different answer please let us know so we can all be on the same page.
                    _
                    right on thanks Jim!!!
                    this is definitely what i am expecting.. OPINIONS.. not a discussions or arguments or what not.. just OPINIONS

                    Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
                    ak at madzuma.com
                    skype me - alfonsus.com

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                    • faxxaff
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2134

                      #11
                      google is banning whitelabels all over the place for dublicate content ..... so there is no need for having one.
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                      • AK
                        MadZuma
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 6436

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dwreck
                        Im just going to finish up my lunch and post Ak.

                        this should be informative yet spammy at the same time. I luv it!
                        i think for affiliates, they should post what exactly are they looking for in a whitelabel.

                        but seriously, i see quite a few 'spam me with whitelabels' threads lately but never really be specific on what they are looking for, which im sure each program has different offers.

                        then for providers, they can say... hey we got this we got that.. but we don't have this, maybe we should add that.. something like that
                        Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
                        ak at madzuma.com
                        skype me - alfonsus.com

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                        • AK
                          MadZuma
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 6436

                          #13
                          Originally posted by faxxaff
                          google is banning whitelabels all over the place for dublicate content ..... so there is no need for having one.
                          okay so anyone who relies on SE traffic should not even think about whitelabeling then.

                          Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
                          ak at madzuma.com
                          skype me - alfonsus.com

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                          • donnie
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1630

                            #14
                            Google banning white-label sites is really not a problem for me. I would love to find a decent cam or dating whitelabel solution that I could offer my existing members as an upsell from my members area. Reason I want whitelabel is simply because my members trust me and my sites. If it looks just like my other sites, they will assume it is mine and it makes it easier to sell.

                            Ultimate whitelabel solution (in my eyes) would allow me to bill all customers my own way. Unfortunately many sponsors (and whitelabel providers) are still stuck with the traditional credit card payments and old “one price for everybody” $29.99 per month price structure. How many really offer something like direct debit payment? How many offer different price based on where surfers are coming from?
                            Last edited by donnie; 04-18-2008, 09:46 AM.

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                            • kristin
                              GOO!
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 9768

                              #15
                              Originally posted by faxxaff
                              Whitelabels are a thing of the past. Google will easily sniff the duplicate content and kick your white label into black hell. It's pretty much the same problem like with vanity and subdomains ..... It worked well for a few years, but now it is out of fashion.
                              Not if you niche it out ... I have WLs for every niche and studio. Many of them are listed in Google, just change them up and feature different content on the front and you are good to go with Google.
                              Vacares rules.

                              "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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                              • AK
                                MadZuma
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 6436

                                #16
                                Originally posted by kristin
                                Not if you niche it out ... I have WLs for every niche and studio. Many of them are listed in Google, just change them up and feature different content on the front and you are good to go with Google.
                                i was actually waiting for you to post Kristin, that's why i put ***experts needed***
                                You seem to be doing a good job with your WL.
                                thanks for posting
                                Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
                                ak at madzuma.com
                                skype me - alfonsus.com

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                                • AK
                                  MadZuma
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 6436

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by donnie
                                  Google banning white-label sites is really not a problem for me. I would love to find a decent cam or dating whitelabel solution that I could offer my existing members as an upsell from my members area. Reason I want whitelabel is simply because my members trust me and my sites. If it looks just like my other sites, they will assume it is mine and it makes it easier to sell.

                                  Ultimate whitelabel solution (in my eyes) would allow me to bill all customers my own way. Unfortunately many sponsors (and whitelabel providers) are still stuck with the traditional credit card payments and old ?one price for everybody? $29.99 per month price structure. How many really offer something like direct debit payment? How many offer different price based on where surfers are coming from?
                                  no sig?
                                  if you are really serious about being able to bill your own customers thru a whitelabel.
                                  hit me up.
                                  Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
                                  ak at madzuma.com
                                  skype me - alfonsus.com

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                                  • KnightMare
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 281

                                    #18
                                    WhiteLables are good for branding your own sites, rather than someone else's.

                                    Ask yourself...
                                    "Why would I brand someone else AND send them traffic and money, when I can brand my own sites?"

                                    It also helps keep the member on your site, as opposed to sending them to a different user experience.

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                                    • vending_machine
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 1070

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by donnie
                                      Google banning white-label sites is really not a problem for me. I would love to find a decent cam or dating whitelabel solution that I could offer my existing members as an upsell from my members area. Reason I want whitelabel is simply because my members trust me and my sites. If it looks just like my other sites, they will assume it is mine and it makes it easier to sell.

                                      Ultimate whitelabel solution (in my eyes) would allow me to bill all customers my own way. Unfortunately many sponsors (and whitelabel providers) are still stuck with the traditional credit card payments and old ?one price for everybody? $29.99 per month price structure. How many really offer something like direct debit payment? How many offer different price based on where surfers are coming from?
                                      Donnie, hit me up to discuss please 335769428

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                                      • Czech
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 2694

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by donnie
                                        Google banning white-label sites is really not a problem for me. I would love to find a decent cam or dating whitelabel solution that I could offer my existing members as an upsell from my members area. Reason I want whitelabel is simply because my members trust me and my sites. If it looks just like my other sites, they will assume it is mine and it makes it easier to sell.

                                        Ultimate whitelabel solution (in my eyes) would allow me to bill all customers my own way. Unfortunately many sponsors (and whitelabel providers) are still stuck with the traditional credit card payments and old “one price for everybody” $29.99 per month price structure. How many really offer something like direct debit payment? How many offer different price based on where surfers are coming from?
                                        Good point donnie, as a matter of fact they are out there but mainly in cam/chat where you have your 100% white label and use your own billing solution. The way it works is more or less you are leasing thier feeds for lets say $1 per HCM (hard core minute) and you charge the amount you want to the end user. You can even have your very own affiliate program connected to this type of white label.
                                        Last edited by Czech; 04-18-2008, 10:16 AM.

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                                        • vod
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2006
                                          • 3510

                                          #21
                                          1. why do you need whitelabels? to protect your brand, domain, logo, movies, images..etc..

                                          2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you? most customized...

                                          3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?
                                          the level of branding you do will depend on the term..




                                          backend your brand with us, get free encoding, free bandwidth, free support and processing... and I will have our design department create a site for you, also include what domain we should use or website we should design look and feel of.

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                                          at XonDemand we backend encoding, bandwidth, support and processing for 900+ studios and 60,000 DVD Movies with 10,000+ Free previews...

                                          XonDemand reserves SSL for your domain to keep the processing and emailing on your domain when the surfer joins your site on your domain, they get an email from your domain etc..your brand, your domain, your content...



                                          Now AK when can I get you a dating gold brand VOD theater ?


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                                          • Czech
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2005
                                            • 2694

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by RobMax
                                            Good point donnie, as a matter of fact they are out there but mainly in cam/chat where you have your 100% white label and use your own billing solution. The way it works is more or less you are leasing thier feeds for lets say $1 per HCM (hard core minute) and you charge the amount you want to the end user. You can even have your very own affiliate program connected to this type of white label.
                                            If you want an example take a look at this site www.chatcams4you.com by the way I am not associated with them.

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                                            • DaddyHalbucks
                                              A freakin' legend!
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 18975

                                              #23
                                              Good posts, Jim and Kristin!
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                                              • AK
                                                MadZuma
                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 6436

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by vod
                                                1. why do you need whitelabels? to protect your brand, domain, logo, movies, images..etc..

                                                2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you? most customized...

                                                3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?
                                                the level of branding you do will depend on the term..




                                                backend your brand with us, get free encoding, free bandwidth, free support and processing... and I will have our design department create a site for you, also include what domain we should use or website we should design look and feel of.

                                                Here are some personal vod theaters, Scroll down the page and see the 3 sections of vod theatres, XonDemand brands, webmasters/sponsors brands and studio brand theatres... http://www.xodgroup.com/sitemap/personal_vod.html

                                                at XonDemand we backend encoding, bandwidth, support and processing for 900+ studios and 60,000 DVD Movies with 10,000+ Free previews...

                                                XonDemand reserves SSL for your domain to keep the processing and emailing on your domain when the surfer joins your site on your domain, they get an email from your domain etc..your brand, your domain, your content...



                                                Now AK when can I get you a dating gold brand VOD theater ?
                                                soon i hope, we are talking with few candidates right now.

                                                obviously we offer whitelabel for our cams (and soon dating too), so we have to put that into consideration.

                                                good post sir!
                                                Alfonsus Kusuma (AK)
                                                ak at madzuma.com
                                                skype me - alfonsus.com

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