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  • MikeFold
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2001
    • 465
    #1

    Need Stats Freak Help....Have any theories on this

    Sometimes when I lay stats and notes out in front of me. I can figure out what might be happening.
    I ask myself "What am I missing?" I thought I would toss this out there and maybe some stats people could help or maybe it has happened to you and I am totally overlooking something.
    I have 3 or 4 sites that have been constant/consistent for years in terms of traffic and click through ratios. Nothing big, just very consistent.
    The Last 2 weeks going to the Cam sponsor for these sites have seen a precipitious drop in raws/uniques with numbers I have not experienced in the last 2 years.
    I am not looking at conversions, or even concerned about that...I am just trying to figure out what may cause that huge drop in uniques in such a short time (Right around 04/03/14).....
    I made a quick page with the 2 parts of the equation that matter. The Traffic from the Source and the actual stats from the Last 4 month for 13 days each month.

    4 Months of the 1st 13 Days

    Thanks for any input,
    Again, no problems I am aware of with the cam site according to the Aff Manager, so what am I missing?
    nothing to promote
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    • Nice_Nick
      So Fucking Banned
      • Mar 2014
      • 865
      #2
      Is the traffic from search engines like Google? Have you had an algorithm penalty.

      I think everyone that runs an adult site is finding it tough right now if they rely on search engines for traffic unless you are one of the big 'brands'.

      Personally I have seen huge drops too across multiple sites. I have dropped more than 75% of my traffic. The reason? Fickle Google.

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        • MikeFold
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2001
          • 465
          #3
          Thanks for looking....
          No penalties....no apparent variable changes from the source side of the equation...
          My referring websites traffic for this sponsor is trending up the last 8 months, and the affiliate stats for this site have reflected the constants (this has been for years, but I am only showing the last 4 months for an example)

          so...no..its not the traffic source (those numbers are trending up) and ...yes...they are mostly SE (no link trades except in my own network)
          nothing to promote

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            • signupdamnit
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2007
              • 6697
              #4
              You absolutely have to do your own outbound hit tracking so you know what you are really sending the sponsor at all times. You cannot rely on the sponsors stats. For starters if there is shaving often the big guys will also shave the uniques and/or raws to help hide it. Funny business with the raws or uniques can be one of the first signs.

              So if you aren't doing it now check what you are really sending to the sponsor and compare.
              Last edited by signupdamnit; 04-13-2014, 10:46 AM.

              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                • MikeFold
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 465
                  #5
                  Originally posted by signupdamnit
                  You absolutely have to do your own outbound hit tracking so you know what you are really sending the sponsor at all times. You cannot rely on the sponsors stats. For starters if there is shaving often the big guys will also shave the uniques and/or raws to help hide it. Funny business with the raws or uniques can be one of the first signs.

                  So if you aren't doing it now check what you are really sending to the sponsor and compare.
                  Thanks for looking.....
                  I agree that I should be doing that....I have with certain sponsors, but NOT with this sponsor (been with them since 1999 and I totally trust them)....I am not questioning the signups/ratio.....just trying to figure why the hits may have dropped so dramatically when the referring sites (me) have not lost traffic. Its like all of the sudden, no one is clicking their creatives/ads?
                  nothing to promote

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                    • signupdamnit
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6697
                      #6
                      Originally posted by MikeFold
                      Thanks for looking.....
                      I agree that I should be doing that....I have with certain sponsors, but NOT with this sponsor (been with them since 1999 and I totally trust them)....I am not questioning the signups/ratio.....just trying to figure why the hits may have dropped so dramatically when the referring sites (me) have not lost traffic. Its like all of the sudden, no one is clicking their creatives/ads?
                      In that case check the load time of the creatives, your site, and their site. But I also still say that you must do your own outbound hit tracking otherwise you are largely flying blind.

                      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                        • MikeFold
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 465
                          #7
                          Originally posted by signupdamnit
                          In that case check the load time of the creatives, your site, and their site. But I also still say that you must do your own outbound hit tracking otherwise you are largely flying blind.
                          that is a first for me reading GFY (actual help) Thank You!.....are the creatives loading properly and enticing the surfer?
                          actually that is an interesting theory and a possibility

                          I will check the sites....I know the traffic is up, but are the ads loading properly?

                          .....what I should do is provide a link here, and ask everyone to just click on it and see if they work

                          (.....thinking....)
                          Last edited by MikeFold; 04-13-2014, 11:13 AM.
                          nothing to promote

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                            • Nice_Nick
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 865
                              #8
                              Maybe more people now use adblock?

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                                • MikeFold
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 465
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Nice_Nick
                                  Maybe more people now use adblock?
                                  possible, but over 60% drop in 10 days over a 16 month+ average?
                                  nothing to promote

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                                    • ravo
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 5461
                                      #10
                                      The drop in raw traffic could be pretty easily explained, and you've already got a few ideas to work on (eg. lowered SE traffic, lower CTR on the ads).

                                      But, I also see a massive change in the unique to raw ratio; from around 3:1 or 4:1 to 5.5:1 in April. Has the program changed the way they count uniques? How do they define a "unique"? Just a thought....
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                                        • MikeFold
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2001
                                          • 465
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by ravo
                                          The drop in raw traffic could be pretty easily explained, and you've already got a few ideas to work on (eg. lowered SE traffic, lower CTR on the ads).

                                          But, I also see a massive change in the unique to raw ratio; from around 3:1 or 4:1 to 5.5:1 in April. Has the program changed the way they count uniques? How do they define a "unique"? Just a thought....
                                          thanks rav.....those were my initial thoughts (different counting techniques with a new interface/landing page)
                                          my aff manager said no change has been made...as they suggested, I changed 6 or 7 links/creatives with new syntax codes....made no difference....

                                          This is why I am asking here, because I must be missing something that's right in front of me....and there are smarter people here than I am...

                                          also, just to accentuate the oddity here
                                          (I just tabulated this)
                                          The 5 sites that contribute to the traffic side of the equation looked like this

                                          April 1st-3477 Total Uniques for these 5 sites(from AW Stats) 274 Raw/60 Uniques to sponsor
                                          April 12th-4418 Total Uniques for these 5 sites(from AW Stats) 130 Raw/7 Uniques to sponsor

                                          You can see the decline the last 6 days

                                          Note: Come On Fred Couples at the Masters...win one for the old guys
                                          Last edited by MikeFold; 04-13-2014, 12:37 PM.
                                          nothing to promote

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                                            • myleene
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2013
                                              • 906
                                              #12
                                              Google honeymoon period:
                                              http://www.gethow.org/how-to-recover...neymoon-period

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                                                • MikeFold
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                  • 465
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by myleene
                                                  Google honeymoon period:
                                                  http://www.gethow.org/how-to-recover...neymoon-period
                                                  thanks for the input...
                                                  the "newest site" in the small network that these stats reflect was initiated in 2009, and the oldest site was launched in 1997
                                                  the stats for these 5 sites are constant

                                                  Not only is the honeymoon been long over, but I have been through at least 5 divorces and a couple of trial separations
                                                  nothing to promote

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                                                    • Nice_Nick
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Mar 2014
                                                      • 865
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by myleene
                                                      Google honeymoon period:
                                                      http://www.gethow.org/how-to-recover...neymoon-period
                                                      Poor article. Reads like it was written by an Indian that shouldn't be writing complex articles.

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                                                        • MikeFold
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                          • 465
                                                          #15
                                                          Thanks for the info RA....may have answered some of it, but as I said, I have no concerns about conversions, just trying to figure where all the "hits" (uniques) went
                                                          nothing to promote

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