like carmella bing, ava lauren, shyla styles, jayden jaymes etc
only 200-300K a year???
WTF?
ugly girls make more than that in episode on TV
only 200-300K a year???
WTF?
ugly girls make more than that in episode on TV
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Depends on how many cocks a day she can take and in how many holes, divided by the pimp factor and subtracting the agents cut with the base factor that few think the IRS does not know the real number as well.
So for many they end up owing money after a few years in biz. Above formula does not count for spending either.Comment
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fckd up..girls like carmella bing are known to majority of guys out there and she only makes 240K a year??
real messed...a lot of these girls are pretty, cant they get a gig in a tv show or commercial...i cant see it being that hard for PS to get a small gig as extras in tv shows and moviesComment
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From my recent interviews many are not in the 200-300k earnings league,and a lot of girls have to do feature dancing in clubs and a host of other activities to make a decent living nowadays and Im talking about well known names.
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Ok in your mind how much do you think it pays to be an extra in a TV show or even in a movie (say large budget, full production).
Plus just being pretty does not cut it, unless it is for a reality TV gig. Even then well money can be shit if any.
Costs to take some dick have not dropped, agent fee's have not dropped. Well girls costs do drop near 1st of month but well... Assuming one can do say 2000 a week her cut, hell I am fairly certain even in LA that they could be ok with 8k a month or 96k a year before taxes. I also am being very wide as many can and do more than 2000 a week, specially if they pace themselves and do not start out with three holes filled, vomited, while someone on another race or whatever for extra shock value is pissing on her.
Oh wait, drugs, boyfriends, shoes, more drugs, parties, alcohol, repairing damage from last fight with boyfriend, flakeyness, and such can have a small role.Comment
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Only $200-$300K? That's a respectable living for anyone. Earnings really depend on how many and what type of shoots they do and what their work ethic is like. It's not like a steady 9-5 salaried job. Many don't even last a fraction of a year. By the way, many actors and actresses on mainstream tv who are not legit stars get paid peanuts. 95% of the members of the Screen Actors Guild don't even gross the $8000 or so annually it takes to qualify for medical benefits.Comment
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Yes After Shock Media many can do more than 2k a week which is around 100k not the 2-300k plus mentioned in the orginal post...thats a totally different figure.
Another aspect is what someone earns in one week is not always sustainable over a number of years,I have interviewed performers getting huge amounts one month and 0 the next.
And your also correct in mainstream ... small gigs and tv shows the pay is terrible and I think it would surprise a lot of people to see the difference in pay between a known star and a semi or unknown mainstream star.
ps..... are you going to the new york or san fran show
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Dude, in what bizarre-o world is the local stripper making 200K a year? No matter how hot the stripper is she might make $500-$1000 one night and barely be able to pay her house fees the next. It is a fucking TOUGH business and all it takes is one hot new girl to come in that night and everyone else's money is taking a hit. Not to mention what kind of work ethic do you think these girls have? I've had so many girls make a few hundred the first few hours they were at work and immediately want to go home early. They might have made a grand that night, but they were happy with what they had and wanted to bail. Then they might not show up for work for the next few days. The stripper, hooker, or porn star with a work ethic is a fucking fairy tale...Comment
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From my first year of interviewing and observing this industry , you have put into words exactlly what I saw.
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You can't be serious. Your average porn girl does not make anywhere near $250,000 a year.
Very very few of the girls honestly shoot 4 times a week at a $1,000 a scene.
Plus they take time off to party, travel, go home, etc...I know for fact that at most 2% of the girls at the top agencies work 200 times a year.
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Yes After Shock Media many can do more than 2k a week which is around 100k not the 2-300k plus mentioned in the orginal post...thats a totally different figure.
Another aspect is what someone earns in one week is not always sustainable over a number of years,I have interviewed performers getting huge amounts one month and 0 the next.
And your also correct in mainstream ... small gigs and tv shows the pay is terrible and I think it would surprise a lot of people to see the difference in pay between a known star and a semi or unknown mainstream star.
ps..... are you going to the new york or san fran show
I didnt mean to go against your 200-300k range, I was just stating the basic idea of a decent living if your not life styling it and supporting a few others in process. Of course feature dancing and such is just extra padding. Also have no real issue with them hooking in brothels either. I am just saying that one could come in with right pace and if they kept head on shoulders, they could walk away a few years latter fairly set.
As for the PS. NY is a no, San fran is a maybe, Vegas is most likely, florida is also most likely.Comment
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I said ok living.
People auto assume you need a nice apartment and car, why? You are there to bust your ass and make money. Hell often they share housing already.
Biggest thing is although I do not live in LA, I do know many that do and earn less than 96k a year. Even assuming it costs three times as much to live in that part of CA than it does in my part. How in the living hell is many living fairly well on 30-40k a year?
May I ask if you are even aware of the typical hourly wage or yearly income is in CA?Comment
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society's slut capacity is on the rise. there's plenty of competition. things aren't the way they were 20 years ago. there's plenty of young women out there willing to put on a show who were downing cock liek seasoned pros before they made their way out of junior high. i remember reading somewhere that eva angelina decided she wanted to be a pornstar when she was like 12 years old or some shit. being hot and having a willingness to take a cock on film simply isn't going to make you a millionaire anymore when there's plenty of girls who will do it for 50k a year...Comment
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Another "How long is a piece of string." question.
So here's a "How long is a piece of string." answer for a "How long is a piece of string." question.
It depends on the girl.
A girl can earn enough in 5 years to never really work again. Or she can earn the same amount and come out owing more money than she did when she started.
A decent price for a good girl doing HC is $1,000 a scene. It can be higher it can be lower. She can do 5 scenes a week, plus some solo and girl on girl, there has never been more work for girls in front of the camera. There has never been so few GOOD girls. Content is produced conveyor belt style and some directors are clueless what porn really is. The girls do not get the teaching and direction they used to.
She can add to that by stripping, lap dancing, promotions, endorsements and escorting. A good night in a strip club can net a girl as much as she would working for the day getting her ass reamed. Promotions and endorsements are possible for some top girls. By far and away the most money for the least work in in escorting. Some guys will pay $2,000 for an hour with a porn star. Some will spend $25,000 for a weekend with her. AND she can do it on a regular basis. Yes it happens, it depends on the girls.
Everything is down to the girl. Claudia Rossi will leave the business a very rich woman, another major porn star who rose well above Claudia, is turning tricks for $1,000 and the price is dropping. She has retired from porn.
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well seeing as melissa midwest makes 500k a year i would have thought the big names make close to that too.Comment
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You mean if you give young women lots of money they don't open ira's and plan for the future????Comment
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250k/year isn't bad at all, especially considering that just showing up for the shoot is half the work done already... it's probably not something I would do myself, but for the skill/work involved the pay isn't bad at all....Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
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200k-300k for an average girl is unrealistic. The average girl does not make that... most contract girls don't make that. Let's take Hillary Scott for example. It was big news when she landed the "biggest" contract in porn - big news at $1,000,000 which is big for a contact girl....the deal is however is spread over 4 years.
Just shooting straight scenes will not get a girl near those numbers, if it did she'd be walking around like goatce...maybe if were booked and made a big name in doing Anal and DP, but then again your paying a premium to LA or whoever is your agent to land the juicy shoots. I'm sorry to say the representation of a glam and glitz in porn is an image. The money is made in offices with clothes on.
Just like any profession it's the other promotional aspects where they can make more money. So how much do most porn stars make annually? If you factor in all the fun "habits", donations to Jerome, the kids, child support and the parasitic "friends" it is actually far less then you think.
The profitable ones who hit those numbers and beyond are PURE 100% professionals and treat it like a business and capitalize on their names and branding aspects. sadly the majority are mismanaged, controlled by a pimp boyfriend or just plain don't have the experience (life and business) to understand this.Last edited by RTP; 04-12-2008, 12:03 PM.Jimmy James
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speaking as a retired performer of 9 years .. I would work 5 days a week up to 3 scenes a day..miles and miles of pipe laid .. guys obviously make less but I would bring in around 200K a year .. but the girls would and do usually only work a couple times a week and do hold out as long as they can for the larger paying gigs.. girls can very easily make 5K a week but if they were to they would work them selves out of a job .. the trick is to balance your work load with actual available work .. 1-2 scenes a week and you can work all year .. anymore and you run out of companies that you haven't shot for ..some girls work 1-2 months hard and take off 2-3 months .. 100K is decent fucking pay for only working a couple days a week .. and more the norm than girls making 200K ..BUT all I have said is based only on my internet knowledge .. could be entirely and I am assuming it is different for DVD contract models ..No sig .. just meComment
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$200k - $300k to have sex is a lot of money. That's in the 98th percentile of income earners. In other words, they would be in the top 2% - the upper class of America.Comment
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the reason i said ONLY, is because i know secretarys in Canada and the US that make 45K a year, and if they are sexy like carmella bing, eva angelina etc...and fuck their VP, CEO boss, they'll get a 50K more bonus, for fucking once NOT on camera and for doing jack shit all day!
also i know escorts charging 300$ a hour and do a few hours a day.....these PORNSTARS can easily get clients that would pay 500$/hr for them because they are celebrities and could easily pull in 300K+ a year..maybe they just dont discuss it
PROFIT OF DOOM, i totally agree with the irony, that they cud make money, but the ppl willing to make money like this have poor work ethic!Last edited by Jai; 04-12-2008, 01:01 PM.Comment
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A smart performer uses porn income to promote herself for dancing + escorting. Once a performer has a boxcover she can charge big numbers for table dances on a strip club tour or mid 4 digits a night as an escort.Comment
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Haha I would count Compton as part of LA, that whole area I just see as a giant sprawl.
Try about 550 to 600 miles north of there, in Redding. Nothing magical about it, just way fucking cheaper than southern CA. 300-400k here gets you your 4-5 bedroom on possible acreage if you desire, and that was pre bubble.
Only a few things are about same price wise, like gas is about same.Comment
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You have to understand though I own and run my site not to mention I own all my domains as well. Most these girls have to work for companies and there webmasters have to take there cut. As for my numbers since I switched over to Nats and added hardcore my money has more then doubled with no end in sight. I am not even close to being finished I have new sites I am coming out with I also think Adri is joining back up with me as she just couldn?t quite make money anywhere else so things are only getting better. I have some other big projects in the works that will blow people away. I pay a price though it?s not always easy to work 80 hours a week and delicate my life to my site. MelissaComment
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200 - 300k was my first thought. a lot of good points made in this thread about these little whoresThe Sexiest place to Buy & Sell Adult Ads - JuicyAds is where YOUR profits matter!
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Oh don't worry it won't happen even I can't get these girls to work! I have tried to teach them how to run there own thing and they don't listen. I have explained the only way to get rich in this business is to learn all phases of it but lets face it that's not easy. MelissaComment
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