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Bullshit non of you will sue anyone. Talk and no action .... meow" Richard (03:37 PM) : how are one touch cockie."Comment
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WTF, was this doing on the 2nd page?
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I surely seen the drop in sales.. from most of my traffic.Comment
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I will start law suites, if this does not get the attention of the right people
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wow this topic heats up
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That's great news Dave.
May I also suggest that you and all of the program owners you are close with join me in boycotting Gallery Traffic Service and all of it's sister companies as long as they are supporting illegal tube sites by helping them to monetize their traffic?sig too bigComment
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Where were you guys when I was suing password sites in 1999?
I am in, not all tube sites are infringers though.Sig too big
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kudos to daveComment
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some surfing inside WarezQuality and I find a working link to Paris Hilton's video...
I am sure that Camco is a peon but I am also sure that Evan isn't and he doesn't like people that help others share his shit for free.Comment
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I think convincing the companies like Penthouse/AFF and ImLive etc to freeze the major offending tube sites affiliate accounts and refuse to pay until they clean up their sites etc would be the best thing that could happen in this case.
The law can't do anything, companies can. If enough of the major players convinced these dating sites that working with us rather than against us was in their best interests, maybe something actually happens. If enough legit webmasters agreed to remove AFF ads for example from their sites, maybe they'd lose even more business than the tubes send.
It's an unfair playing field, and if they want the legit traffic, maybe they'll have to surrender to our demands. A petition of accounts who would agree to remove links by X date might speak louder than any other argument.Comment
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Wrong... Laws can do a lot here. It is against the law to knowingly support (through monetary gain) any site that infringes upon the copywrite of a company. You just need to make a complaint. The FBI, state District Attorneys, etc, cannot do so for you. Similar to expecting the cops to bust someone for mugging you. If you don't press charges there is nothing they can do.Comment
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Very nice thread........I hope something is done soon regarding those tube sites with stolen full length vids.........
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Very good point.
Some people think they can close down Tubes sites and all the surfers will rush back to TGP sites with 4 15 second clips and then rush off to sign up to sites that are not worth $3 let alone $30.
If stealing content was the key to running a successful Tube site then stopping them stealing it would work, it's not so won't make any difference.
If the surfers are so pissed off with buying what we offer them for $30 they will put up with the shit a Tube site puts out then closing Tube sites is not the solution. It's not Tubes sites fault the surfers prefer them th paysites, it's the paysites fault.
It's amazing that so many see the key to selling as reducing the customers options. As for the theft issue, that's a red herring. Stopping theft will not kill Tubes sites, in fact it will do the opposite.
Start giving the surfer more at a better value and better reasons to sign up and you might have a chance making a change to the industry. Or at least your fortunes.
As for the title, no one gives a fuck that every $30 membership was costing the DVD or magazine industry. You were very happy to take business from them if it came to you.
Anyone who wants legal Tube clips for the Tube site need only hit me up.Comment
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that was a very short but very strong thought mate i signed in
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.... and... I don't think there's any way tube sites will last much longer between legal complications and trying to support that amount of bandwidth (which is probably being supported by investors who will hopefully get burned in the end ).Comment
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this will be definitely interestingComment
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Someone willing to put this into system, maybe a site where companies/individuals can add how much business they are willing to pull from companies that are supporting the illegal tube sites?
We have already pulled alot traffic from sponsors based on their supporting people who are fucking us, but still got some $4-5K/month with streamray, which we can throw into the poll...Comment
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Keep kidding yourself that. It will help you sleep at night until you discover you're wrong.
A. You can't force someone to buy.
B. You have to know what the buyer needs to sell to him.
C. You have to know what your product really is to sell it.
D. You can't market shit year in and year out.
D. is the key.
For 8 years I have been telling most of you that unless you get the product right the consumer will turn off of buying (content is king). And for 8 years most of you you experts have been going down the same alley. You've been more interested in selling to someone who send you 3 joins a day than the actual people joining. 1000s of sites with exactly the same content, to the industry it's exclusive, to the surfer it's no different than what's on 999 other sites.
The surfer needs 30 minutes, the industry needs him the spend $30. Guess who won in the end?
Now you have surfers who see no point in paying for what's inside a site and your only answer is to force him.Comment
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Paul, sure we need to get better with "the product", but if nothing is done about the illegal side of the business, then it will all just be for nothing, and simply a race to the bottom.Comment
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oh, 100 tube and warez sites :DComment
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I see three general types of people running the pirate content tube sites or supporting them:
1. Young newcomers to the industry. 19yo kids who may run other torrent and warez sites. 1:15,000 ratios are normal for them. These do not understand that there is much more money in not giving all the content out for free. This is their easy entry into the market and they don't know any better.
2. Desperate failing site owners who are trying to keep their profits. They think in the short term and do not consider that they are killing their business in the long run.
3. Adult site owners who have implemented their exit strategy and are looking to leave the adult industry. Especially the paysite model. They don't care anymore. They are going to sell everything out so the 1:20,000 ratios won't matter to them. If they have paysites you can probably expect them to be selling them very soon.
The ones who are fighting it are demonstrating that they are in the industry for the long term, not just get rich quick and leave the adult market.
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Dave, when I was working at XTube you emailed me at least 3 times talking about advertising with XTube.
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