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Old 02-03-2014, 09:07 AM  
dyna mo
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Originally Posted by Jel View Post
yeah agreed mate, but I'm saying you can't just blanket statement. I do it all the fucking time though so I'm a fine one to talk lol

It's about that rock bottom imo, and the 'gift of desperation'. From my personal experience, and what I've heard, you always cling onto being able to control it, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Only when you are in that state of true desperation, on the edge of the precipice so to speak, comes that 'choice' to seek help - again with that word 'choice' not being quite the true sense of it being complete free will.

Again, given that each of us is unique, and no 2 people are exactly alike, my annoyance, for lack of a better way of putting it, comes out.

It's all good though
I enjoy a good debate that maintains a modicum of respect, so no worries.

And yes, rock-bottom, I agree. Which is probably the biggest factor in why psh died. Hard to see yourself at rock-bottom when you are considered one of the best actors of your generation and receive all the laurels that go with that.

But again, choice is the crucial factor here. FOr me and from what I've experienced,

choice precedes wilpower.

Willpower is derived from personal choice.

Whether it's willpower to inject yourself with hardcore drugs, or willpower to seek help. But the willpower to shoot up, for instance, comes after making the choice to do the drug.

Could you fire intravenous drugs into yourself? I couldn't. And I'm an insulin junkie! I have to inject myself many times each and every day. But insulin injections are sub-cutaneous, not intravenous, big difference.
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