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Originally Posted by crockett
No you aren't, Obama could have parted the waters, turned water into wine and created a perfect health care system and you would just find something with it to bitch about. It doesn't matter if Obamacare would have been a perfect roll out and people were shitting rainbows you would still bitch and moan because it was Obama doing it.
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What he did was shove a bill thru to law with no partisan support, he didn't listen to the two bills the GOP had, he was an asshat for thinking he didn't need them. The potus is a rep for the people, not just the Dems. He didn't read it, the biggest lie for 2013 according to politifact was "if you like your insurance, you can keep it"
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Originally Posted by Minte
We can only speculate..because he didn't role out a perfect system. I bet large that even today he's not sure what he actually did role out. He was absolutely certain that no one would lose their existing policy if they wanted to keep it.. And he was also certain that the costs would not rise.(ours went up14%) and on and on...
Every US citizen should be bitching. Not just the 70% that don't want obamacare.
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Obamacare was thrown together and is expanding at a terrible rate. It was poorly written and has nothing in it to cover the promises made to get it
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Originally Posted by crockett
Well a large part of people with increases have happened due to Republican run states that didn't accept the Medicare expansion, there is an estimated 5 million people that won't get affordable insurance due to that. What happened, was many people don't have a low enough income to get subsidized by Obamacare it's self, but in that case the Medicaid expansion would kick in to help bring the price down for people not over a higher income bracket.
Obviously the Right decided to not accept the expansion in order to try and make Obamacare fail. In the process they have cost tax payers in their states more money and even cost many the chance to get insurance.
People can bitch and moan all they want about Obamacare, but at least the left is trying to come up with a solution to bring insurance to everyone. Meanwhile the right just plays party politics and has attempted to do nothing to help sort out the problems. The right is only interested in making things more difficult and their idea of insurance is "don't get sick if you aren't rich".
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Fuck, do you ever take off those blinders?
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Originally Posted by Minte
Obamacare was voted in when the right was at a complete minority. They had nothing to do with it. This program is 100% democrat. And that's not a point worth arguing over.
I don't understand your position. It's the law, the democrats won. Why do they now need help sorting it out?
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Exactly, it's all to blame on the democrats, the gop offered up their own ideas and were laughed at.
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that