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Old 01-12-2014, 05:55 PM  
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Originally Posted by Cherry7 View Post
What makes you think things will change in the future? Since the beginning of recorded history those who have more have sent their kids to the best schools and supplied their families with the best things. You think this will change? How so? Who in the future is going to force those with more money to send their kids to the poorest schools?

The French Revolution

The American revolution

The Russian Revolution
I won't speak on the French and Russian, but the American Revolution didn't suddenly make everything equal in the US, it just allowed us to determine our own leadership free from the British.

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The creator of Facebook has made the money he has because society has deemed the product that valuable.

Society was never asked. The Cocaine cartels could say the same. The market is blind and you can make a fortune selling, burgers that destroy childrens' health, drugs or popular computer programs. It is a dictatorship of the rich.
Society was in fact asked. The site was created and millions decided to use it. Not just that, but it was a perfect example of competition because at the time Facebook was created Myspace was the king of that space and people decided that Facebook was better and that they wanted to use it.

Had nobody used the site it would have faded away and its creator would have made nothing.

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You are correct that if society wanted to give every child an equal chance they could. But they don't. This isn't as much "the man" holding them down, it is them deciding what they want to do and not what to do. All over the nation cities and local districts vote down school budgets.

People all over the world have been struggling for social justice, equal opportunities, education and health care. Is their access to impartial independant news? Or are all main sources of information controlled by corporations?
The US working class was smashed and as seen here full of the ideas of the Ruling junta.
I won't argue that the US working class has been smashed. Read my first post in this thread. I say right in it one of the reasons that we have so many poor people is that wages have been stagnant for 30 years while the cost of other things has gone way up.



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You seem to have some vision that the future will be some utopian society where everyone has an equal change and the meek will inherit the earth. Why do you think this will happen when our history shows that it simply is not the case?

All through the 50s and 60s the USA was a potent model for World development. Do you think that is true now?

capitalism is its own worse enemy, now it is not in competetion with the Soviets its running wild, provoking the worse economic crash in a hundred years, plus an ecological nightmare.

Either mankind controls markets or the markets will run the planet into the abyss.
Pure capitalism cannot succeed, nor can pure communism, pure socialism ect. When left unregulated people will do terrible things to others for the sake of profit. I don't think it is capitalism as a whole that is the worry, it is more our banking system that allows some people to take huge risks in order to produce money out of thin air that is one of our biggest problems. When lose it can cause all kinds of problems as we saw when the economy recently collapsed.
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