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  • ADL Colin
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2001
    • 11929

    #1

    Ron Paul's message

    After it was clear that Ron Paul had no chance of getting the Republican nomination the point of view of many of Paul's supporters seemed to become that his message had gotten out. That, and not winning, was the point.

    One of Paul's most ardent and infamous proposals is to abolish the Fed.
    Yet every day it seems the Federal Reserve is gaining in power. The backing of JP Morgan's buyout of Bear as an example. Paulson is proposing that the Federal Reserve gain the legal authority to look at the financial status of any institution that could affect market stability.

    "The Treasury will recommend that the Fed share authority over banks, securities firms and insurers in monitoring corporate disclosures, writing rules and stepping in to prevent economic crisis, according to the draft, which was distributed to officials last week and obtained by Bloomberg News.

    The plan also suggests a distinction be made between the Fed's ``normal'' lender-of-last resort discount window to help banks meet short-term funding needs and ``market stability'' lending to help stave off funding shortages and panics. In that function, loans could be extended to federally chartered insurers and financial institutions. "


    Why, if Paul's message was having an effect, is the Federal Reserve becoming more powerful then it has ever been?


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  • dready
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    • Oct 2002
    • 5247

    #2
    Paul had an effect on voters, but voters have little effect on a powerful private institution like the Federal Reserve Bank.
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    • IllTestYourGirls
      Ah My Balls
      • Feb 2007
      • 14311

      #3
      Exactly. Its like saying obama has done nothing because people think he is "anti-war" yet we are still in Iraq.

      Originally posted by dready
      Paul had an effect on voters, but voters have little effect on a powerful private institution like the Federal Reserve Bank.
      Last edited by IllTestYourGirls; 03-31-2008, 06:02 AM.

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      • CIVMatt
        Amateur Pimpin
        • Aug 2004
        • 13075

        #4
        Is he running as an independent this year? Any idea who is?
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        • notoldschool
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2007
          • 5687

          #5
          Originally posted by dready
          Paul had an effect on voters, but voters have little effect on a powerful private institution like the Federal Reserve Bank.
          Its sad that it is necessary to explain this to people.


          Originally posted by CIVMatt
          Is he running as an independent this year? Any idea who is?
          democratic candidate Mike Gravel is running.
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          • ADL Colin
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Feb 2001
            • 11929

            #6
            Originally posted by dready
            Paul had an effect on voters, but voters have little effect on a powerful private institution like the Federal Reserve Bank.
            So some small percentage of the population heard libertarian/Austrian economics ideas for the first time. What good is that when - as you point out - it will have little actual effect?

            So Paul's candidacy was not about winning, not about affecting real change, but was about educating people on Austrian economic principles and libertarian political philosophy?


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            • GrouchyAdmin
              Now choke yourself!
              • Apr 2006
              • 12085

              #7
              Originally posted by ADL Colin
              So Paul's candidacy was not about winning, not about affecting real change, but was about educating people on Austrian economic principles and libertarian political philosophy?
              It was about a blimp, and a common cause: nihilistic greed.

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              • Brujah
                Beer Money Baron
                • Jan 2001
                • 22157

                #8
                Making people think about how large the government has gotten and how meaningless the constitution is becoming is much of what Ron Paul's message was about.

                If you want to blame the Fed on anyone, blame those currently in power. Ron Paul's just 1 congressman from Texas who was trying to motivate the apathetic and uneducated.

                Are you still scared of Ron Paul?

                Did you see the Telegraph piece on the Fed looking at how some scandinavian countries handled their crisis sucessfully?
                http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...1/cnfed131.xml

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                • Drake
                  Hello world!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 12508

                  #9
                  Kinda makes his message all the more poignant, doesn't it

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                  • ADL Colin
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 11929

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brujah

                    Are you still scared of Ron Paul?
                    Scared of what? Why would I be afraid of Ron Paul? I started a thread on Britney Spears and she doesn't scare me either.


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                    • Spyce
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                      • Dec 2002
                      • 335

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dready
                      Paul had an effect on voters, but voters have little effect on a powerful private institution like the Federal Reserve Bank.

                      But so many people believe that the Fed is a Government entity - they don't realize that the Fed is a Private Corporation, which changes the rules entirely. Now the government is going to give them - a private corporation - more power over the banking systems...

                      As long as we're using Diebold voting machines, voters have little effect on anything.
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                      • ADL Colin
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 11929

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brujah
                        Ron Paul's just 1 congressman from Texas who was trying to motivate the apathetic and uneducated.
                        So Ron Paul's supporters come largely from those who were apathetic and uneducated? Or are you only referring to those Ron Paul supporters yet to come?


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                        • IllTestYourGirls
                          Ah My Balls
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 14311

                          #13
                          Gravel is running for the Libertarian nomination, has not won it yet. And that would be a third party not an indie run.

                          What is Nader running under? Is he doing an indie run?

                          Originally posted by notoldschool
                          Its sad that it is necessary to explain this to people.




                          democratic candidate Mike Gravel is running.

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                          • ADL Colin
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 11929

                            #14
                            Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls

                            What is Nader running under? Is he doing an indie run?
                            Yup. Indie this time.


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