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  • NETbilling
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    • Jan 2002
    • 8598

    #1

    Serious question for those of you that are religious

    When y'all pray for more rain or thank god for you scoring a touchdown, or pray that your relative will recover from illness, what exactly are you expecting will happen? Are you praying that god will intervene or is it more of a prayer of just hope or thanks and not actual expectations?

    I'm curious.

    Mitch


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    • freecartoonporn
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      #3
      Originally posted by NETbilling
      When y'all pray for more rain or thank god for you scoring a touchdown, or pray that your relative will recover from illness, what exactly are you expecting will happen? Are you praying that god will intervene or is it more of a prayer of just hope or thanks and not actual expectations?

      I'm curious.

      Mitch
      yes and yes.

      i hope that he will intervene and make some miracle . and yes miracles do happen.
      but its just not the prayer, you gotta work for it too.
      amen

      but i dont pray like make me billionaire or something.
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      • John-ACWM
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        #4
        I doubt you'll get a serious answer but this should be fun!

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        • freecartoonporn
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          #5
          Originally posted by John-ACWM
          I doubt you'll get a serious answer but this should be fun!
          mine is serious ..
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          • NETbilling
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            • Jan 2002
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            #6
            Originally posted by freecartoonporn
            yes and yes.

            i hope that he will intervene and make some miracle . and yes miracles do happen.
            but its just not the prayer, you gotta work for it too.
            amen

            but i dont pray like make me billionaire or something.
            What type of miracles do happen?
            Why can't I pray to become a billionaire?


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            • JockoHomo
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              #7


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              • OneHungLo
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                #8
                Let's pray that you don't make another stupid thread.

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                • georgeyw
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                  #9
                  How is it that you are dumber than a sack of busted arseholes?
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                  • Markul
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                    #10
                    But.... I pulled out...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Markul
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                      • dyna mo
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 68184

                        #12
                        this year I prayed that after 11 years of being a loyal netbilling client, I'd at least get a christmas card.

                        so much for prayer.

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                        • Shap
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                          • May 2001
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by NETbilling
                          When y'all pray for more rain or thank god for you scoring a touchdown, or pray that your relative will recover from illness, what exactly are you expecting will happen? Are you praying that god will intervene or is it more of a prayer of just hope or thanks and not actual expectations?

                          I'm curious.

                          Mitch
                          Hey Mitch!

                          I remember Beth telling me she had a psychology class that was devoted to the belief of religion and examining those who do and those who don't believe in it. And from a psychological standpoint those who believe in some sort of God benefit more than those who don't. The belief in the possibility of their being a greater force is more powerful psychologically than not believing in anything.

                          I always think of Holyfield. I don't think he was necessarily the best fighter when he was champ but he always seemed to believe that God was behind him and he seemed almost blinded by that belief.

                          Also, when I lived in the Bahamas I saw first hand how important it is to society to have religion. It was the first time I witnessed why it is necessary to have poor people believe in a higher power. Religion gives extremely poor people a reason to be good people. The people we saw were so poor they lived in tents and had absolutely nothing and yet spent their days working on million dollar homes doing shit work with no food and just a jug of water in the blazing Bahamas heat. I strongly believe religion is what kept those people from stealing as much as they could from their clients. Jail isn't enough of a deterrent when you have absolutely nothing.

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                          • Shap
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                            • May 2001
                            • 8313

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                            this year I prayed that after 11 years of being a loyal netbilling client, I'd at least get a christmas card.

                            so much for prayer.

                            That right there was your mistake. You asked for a Christmas card instead of a Happy Holidays Card. You asked for the wrong thing

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                            • dyna mo
                              just a fucking jerk
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Shap
                              That right there was your mistake. You asked for a Christmas card instead of a Happy Holidays Card. You asked for the wrong thing
                              I'll change it for next year then

                              hope & pray

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                              • Grapesoda
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 46234

                                #16
                                Originally posted by NETbilling
                                When y'all pray for more rain or thank god for you scoring a touchdown, or pray that your relative will recover from illness, what exactly are you expecting will happen? Are you praying that god will intervene or is it more of a prayer of just hope or thanks and not actual expectations?

                                I'm curious.

                                Mitch
                                nothing like antagonizing potential clients... why to go (are you a fucking retard?)

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                                • kane
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 20684

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Shap
                                  Hey Mitch!

                                  I remember Beth telling me she had a psychology class that was devoted to the belief of religion and examining those who do and those who don't believe in it. And from a psychological standpoint those who believe in some sort of God benefit more than those who don't. The belief in the possibility of their being a greater force is more powerful psychologically than not believing in anything.

                                  I always think of Holyfield. I don't think he was necessarily the best fighter when he was champ but he always seemed to believe that God was behind him and he seemed almost blinded by that belief.

                                  Also, when I lived in the Bahamas I saw first hand how important it is to society to have religion. It was the first time I witnessed why it is necessary to have poor people believe in a higher power. Religion gives extremely poor people a reason to be good people. The people we saw were so poor they lived in tents and had absolutely nothing and yet spent their days working on million dollar homes doing shit work with no food and just a jug of water in the blazing Bahamas heat. I strongly believe religion is what kept those people from stealing as much as they could from their clients. Jail isn't enough of a deterrent when you have absolutely nothing.
                                  I have a friend who is very religious. So religious in fact I was with him and his wife once and we went through a fast food drive through on our way to the movies. He was driving and he closed his eyes and bowed his head to give thanks for the food while driving down he road. He said not to worry, God will protect us.

                                  Here is the interesting thing. They are always struggling for money and it is their own fault. They are always moving. Every 3-4 years they are off to a new city because God is calling them there. So he can never get established in his job and start making a decent living.

                                  I have my own theories about these moves and think that it has more to do with his wife wanting to control him than God calling them somewhere, but hitting on your point he is always upbeat and sure something great is going to happen just around the corner.

                                  His belief comes from what he calls a miracle. He got a few concussions as a kid and it gave him narcolepsy and some other kind of disorder. He had been on medication for it for a long time. One weekend his wife was out of town visiting her family and he realized he was out of medication and couldn't get more. He was told without it would have seizures and other issues. His wife told him to pray and ask God to heal him. He made it through the weekend without any problems and has never taken the medication again.

                                  Personally, I think it is because it has been 20 years since his last head injury and over the years he has healed, but he thinks it is a miracle so now he is uber-devout.

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                                  • OneHungLo
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                                    • May 2001
                                    • 40902

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Markul
                                    What does respecting someone's right to worship whom ever they wish to blacks respecting white supremacists?

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                                    • Shap
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                      nothing like antagonizing potential clients... why to go (are you a fucking retard?)
                                      He's asking a question. If he has a client that pulls their business because of this post then he obviously they don't have a very good relationship with that client.

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                                      • newB
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                                        • Jul 2006
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                                        #20
                                        I am sure some people do pray like that, but I don't. When I pray I generally thank God for the blessings I already have and ask merely for the strength and direction to do His will and be a better person.

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                                        • Dirty Dane
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                                          #21
                                          I expect 72 virgins

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                                          • michael.kickass
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                                            #22
                                            For me believing in something without proof is nothing short of lunacy. Faith = Insanity.
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                                            • SwirlsGirl
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                                              • Feb 2006
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                                              #23
                                              we prayed that mitch would have taken our phone call of emails.

                                              needless to say prayers failed.

                                              pray you never do that to another ex client

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                                              • TheSquealer
                                                Mayor of Thneedville
                                                • Oct 2004
                                                • 26206

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Shap
                                                Hey Mitch!

                                                I remember Beth telling me she had a psychology class that was devoted to the belief of religion and examining those who do and those who don't believe in it. And from a psychological standpoint those who believe in some sort of God benefit more than those who don't. The belief in the possibility of their being a greater force is more powerful psychologically than not believing in anything.

                                                I always think of Holyfield. I don't think he was necessarily the best fighter when he was champ but he always seemed to believe that God was behind him and he seemed almost blinded by that belief.

                                                Also, when I lived in the Bahamas I saw first hand how important it is to society to have religion. It was the first time I witnessed why it is necessary to have poor people believe in a higher power. Religion gives extremely poor people a reason to be good people. The people we saw were so poor they lived in tents and had absolutely nothing and yet spent their days working on million dollar homes doing shit work with no food and just a jug of water in the blazing Bahamas heat. I strongly believe religion is what kept those people from stealing as much as they could from their clients. Jail isn't enough of a deterrent when you have absolutely nothing.
                                                You are right on track. People simply don't understand the purpose and motives of religion and that our brains are wired for religion. Monotheistic religions evolved along with the transition to sedentary lifestyles, our gathering into larger and larger groups and large cities and provide the moral law and basic codes of conduct, cleanliness, handling of bodies, of food and so on that allowed people to live together in larger and larger societies. IT IS THE factor which allowed us to live in ever increasingly large cooperative cities.

                                                And with respect to crime and religion, you are again exactly correct. People are far less likely to act out, when they are bound to religion/religious beliefs and the idea that they will be judged in the end or are being watched all the time or are violating a strong code that the entire group holds dear. Many many many cultures throughout time have put a god and a temple at the center of shared resources with no other law (irrigation to farms from a shared and limited water source for example) and people generally do not take advantage, hence the institution of religion as an effective management tool over law and punishment.

                                                Groups that are not bound by religious beliefs live an infinitely shorter life than those which are. This is very well studied and particularly evident in cults which typically have a shorter lifespan than other organized communities or groups or larger societies.
                                                Last edited by TheSquealer; 01-08-2014, 06:20 AM.
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                                                • Spunky
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                                                  • Jun 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Jesus is lord!

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                                                  • ruff
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                                                    #26
                                                    We, here in Miami, are sorry that God does not like the Dolphins.
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                                                    • OY
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                                                      #27
                                                      Religion was introduced to men as a form of police. Without it there would be anarchy.

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                                                      • DAMNMAN
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Shap
                                                        Hey Mitch!

                                                        I remember Beth telling me she had a psychology class that was devoted to the belief of religion and examining those who do and those who don't believe in it. And from a psychological standpoint those who believe in some sort of God benefit more than those who don't. The belief in the possibility of their being a greater force is more powerful psychologically than not believing in anything.

                                                        I always think of Holyfield. I don't think he was necessarily the best fighter when he was champ but he always seemed to believe that God was behind him and he seemed almost blinded by that belief.

                                                        Also, when I lived in the Bahamas I saw first hand how important it is to society to have religion. It was the first time I witnessed why it is necessary to have poor people believe in a higher power. Religion gives extremely poor people a reason to be good people. The people we saw were so poor they lived in tents and had absolutely nothing and yet spent their days working on million dollar homes doing shit work with no food and just a jug of water in the blazing Bahamas heat. I strongly believe religion is what kept those people from stealing as much as they could from their clients. Jail isn't enough of a deterrent when you have absolutely nothing.
                                                        Yes, the powers that be used this concept to their advantage during WWII and this current middle east conflict..
                                                        kamikaze pilots and suicide bombers have religion in common. (not the same one, but they are enslaved to delusional thought processes. religion.)
                                                        Bad people do bad things.
                                                        Good people do good things.
                                                        With religion you can get good people to do bad things.
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                                                        I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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                                                        • brassmonkey
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                                                          • TheSquealer
                                                            Mayor of Thneedville
                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                            • 26206

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by DAMNMAN
                                                            Yes, the powers that be used this concept to their advantage during WWII and this current middle east conflict..
                                                            kamikaze pilots and suicide bombers have religion in common. (not the same one, but they are enslaved to delusional thought processes. religion.)
                                                            Bad people do bad things.
                                                            Good people do good things.
                                                            With religion you can get good people to do bad things.
                                                            Thats not true. You don't need religion to do bad things. You need a common enemy of the group. You need to use the concept of "pure evil" to position "them" as "evil" and the "we" as "righteous". Religion is one way of doing that. Hitler did not invoke the name of God to unite a nation against the world and to commit genocide.

                                                            Additionally, Kamizaze pilots brought into being by the resurrection and use of Bulshido, not religion.

                                                            And by the way... the fighting itself is also basically a religious experience. People bind into groups. People unite behind common beliefs. People unite against an enemy. People start to believe in their "righteous" cause. People start to believe in the "evil" of the enemy. People sacrifice themselves for others. People transcend beyond the "me" and start seeing only the "we" and "us" and act in the interest of the group, for a higher cause and purpose.
                                                            Last edited by TheSquealer; 01-08-2014, 06:32 AM.
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                                                            Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                            • DAMNMAN
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                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 1440

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Shap
                                                              He's asking a question. If he has a client that pulls their business because of this post then he obviously they don't have a very good relationship with that client.
                                                              It would be a typical thing for a christian to do. not doing business with a person who doesn't believe as they do. Or make a comment they don't like.

                                                              I see nothing wrong with this person asking these questions. These questions were not posted in a bad manner.
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                                                              One less god!!!
                                                              I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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                                                              • DAMNMAN
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 1440

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by thesquealer
                                                                you are right on track. People simply don't understand the purpose and motives of religion and that our brains are wired for religion. Monotheistic religions evolved along with the transition to sedentary lifestyles, our gathering into larger and larger groups and large cities and provide the moral law and basic codes of conduct, cleanliness, handling of bodies, of food and so on that allowed people to live together in larger and larger societies. It is the factor which allowed us to live in ever increasingly large cooperative cities.

                                                                And with respect to crime and religion, you are again exactly correct. People are far less likely to act out, when they are bound to religion/religious beliefs and the idea that they will be judged in the end or are being watched all the time or are violating a strong code that the entire group holds dear. Many many many cultures throughout time have put a god and a temple at the center of shared resources with no other law (irrigation to farms from a shared and limited water source for example) and people generally do not take advantage, hence the institution of religion as an effective management tool over law and punishment.

                                                                Groups that are not bound by religious beliefs live an infinitely shorter life than those which are. This is very well studied and particularly evident in cults which typically have a shorter lifespan than other organized communities or groups or larger societies.
                                                                control!!!!
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                                                                ZMASTER

                                                                One less god!!!
                                                                I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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                                                                • TheSquealer
                                                                  Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                  • 26206

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DAMNMAN
                                                                  control!!!!
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                                                                  Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                                  • Grapesoda
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 46234

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Shap
                                                                    He's asking a question. If he has a client that pulls their business because of this post then he obviously they don't have a very good relationship with that client.
                                                                    good point however Shap it's a very directed question' from a specific point of view and personally I would keep religious beliefs out of my business relationships.... shows poor judgment, and that is reason enough not to do business with a company

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                                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 46234

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DAMNMAN
                                                                      It would be a typical thing for a christian to do. not doing business with a person who doesn't believe as they do. Or make a comment they don't like.
                                                                      it's also a very common action from liberals and gay action groups.... think chick-fli-a and duck dynasty

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                                                                      • TheSquealer
                                                                        Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                                        • 26206

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by DAMNMAN
                                                                        It would be a typical thing for a christian to do. not doing business with a person who doesn't believe as they do. Or make a comment they don't like.

                                                                        I see nothing wrong with this person asking these questions. These questions were not posted in a bad manner.
                                                                        I think again you grossly misunderstand the motive and purpose of religion here.

                                                                        Why do you think Hasidic Jews control much of the world diamond market? To say "they're greedy" is ignorant. It's because its a business that relies heavily on trust. That trust is easily found when dealing with other people with shared beliefs and values and ancestry . Further, it is a natural human trait to trust and feel more comfortable with similar people than dissimilar. Even infants have been proven prefer their own language and their own race to others after just a few days of birth.
                                                                        Last edited by TheSquealer; 01-08-2014, 06:42 AM.
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                                                                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                          • 68184

                                                                          #37
                                                                          as I've mentioned several times here at teh gfy-

                                                                          anyone would have a difficult time proving religion has done more harm than good.

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                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                            • 68184

                                                                            #38
                                                                            and there are plenty of studies proving the efficacy of prayer.

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                                                                            • DAMNMAN
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                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 1440

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                              I think again you grossly misunderstand the motive and purpose of religion here.

                                                                              Why do you think Hasidic Jews control much of the world diamond market? To say "they're greedy" is ignorant. It's because its a business that relies heavily on trust. That trust is easily found when dealing with other people with shared beliefs and values and ancestry . Further, it is a natural human trait to trust and feel more comfortable with similar people than dissimilar. Even infants have been proven prefer their own language and their own race to others after just a few days of birth.
                                                                              Yes, these things are apparent. As a species we need to move away from some old ways and get over it already.
                                                                              Religion is one. Race and language are others that need to be overcome for the betterment of humanity.
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                                                                              ZMASTER

                                                                              One less god!!!
                                                                              I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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                                                                              • xNetworx
                                                                                So Fucking What
                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                • 14445

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Somebody needs to create "how to pray for a bigger dick" ads on the tubes

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                                                                                • DAMNMAN
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                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 1440

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                  I think again you grossly misunderstand the motive and purpose of religion here.

                                                                                  Why do you think Hasidic Jews control much of the world diamond market? To say "they're greedy" is ignorant. It's because its a business that relies heavily on trust. That trust is easily found when dealing with other people with shared beliefs and values and ancestry . Further, it is a natural human trait to trust and feel more comfortable with similar people than dissimilar. Even infants have been proven prefer their own language and their own race to others after just a few days of birth.
                                                                                  Also, I do understand the purpose of religion. As I said before...... "CONTROL!!!"
                                                                                  You explained it in your post.

                                                                                  So.... As Loki said in the Avenger's. "Humans don't want to be free. They long to be controlled." Paraphrasing here.
                                                                                  email: zmaster (at) earthlink.net
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                                                                                  ZMASTER

                                                                                  One less god!!!
                                                                                  I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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                                                                                  • DAMNMAN
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                    • 1440

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                    as I've mentioned several times here at teh gfy-

                                                                                    anyone would have a difficult time proving religion has done more harm than good.
                                                                                    REALLY? You clearly need to do some research.
                                                                                    email: zmaster (at) earthlink.net
                                                                                    ICQ: 196678616
                                                                                    ZMASTER

                                                                                    One less god!!!
                                                                                    I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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                                                                                    • TheSquealer
                                                                                      Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                                      • 26206

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by DAMNMAN
                                                                                      Also, I do understand the purpose of religion. As I said before...... "CONTROL!!!"
                                                                                      You explained it in your post.

                                                                                      So.... As Loki said in the Avenger's. "Humans don't want to be free. They long to be controlled." Paraphrasing here.
                                                                                      Who is controlling who? Who exactly is in "control"? Having a law that someone can't steal your car doesn't mean you or anyone is being "controlled". It means your rights are being protected. The only person that would interpret that as being "controlled" and be resentful towards it would be the guy who really wants to steal cars.

                                                                                      You are misinterpreting and distorting what I said to fit a predetermined belief that you have, which you wish to defend. I said nothing about "control".

                                                                                      People don't want to be "controlled". They want structure. They want rules. They want order. They want leaders. They want to survive and reproduce. And "what they want" is the best means to that simple end.
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                                                                                      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                                        • 68184

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by DAMNMAN
                                                                                        REALLY? You clearly need to do some research.

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                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                          • 68184

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          btw, I'm laughing at you, not with you.

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                                                                                          • DAMNMAN
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 1440

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                            increased probability of the survival of ones genes!!!
                                                                                            My genes don't like being lied to.
                                                                                            In the end the Morman's will prove you right. BTW. They are prepared for the next total war and as a group they are the strongest in the US.

                                                                                            So I'm not saying that you are incorrect in some the effects of religion in humans. Survival of the sheeple.

                                                                                            I am saying that a lie is a lie and controling and manipulating people for their own good via religion is a control method of the powerful.

                                                                                            BTW, the majority of the atheists I know are really intelligent and care about the earth, humanity and doing the right thing. They are the most ethical folks around.
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                                                                                            One less god!!!
                                                                                            I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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                                                                                            • TheSquealer
                                                                                              Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                              • Oct 2004
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by DAMNMAN
                                                                                              BTW, the majority of the atheists I know are really intelligent and care about the earth, humanity and doing the right thing. They are the most ethical folks around.
                                                                                              Did anyone say otherwise? This is about what works best overall, as has been determined by many many eons and by every organized civilization in the history of man. The fact that your barista at Starbucks adopts puppies doesn't mean any arguments presented are invalid.

                                                                                              Your misunderstanding of religion could be summed up well in your inability to answer the simple questions... "who exactly is in control". Many 1000s of religions out there. Billions of followers. The answer is obvious... no one is in control. We are all free to believe as we choose, yet the majority of people on this planet believe in a higher power. Our brains are wired for it. It's built in to who we are.
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                                                                                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                                              Rochard

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                                                                                              • DAMNMAN
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                • 1440

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                it's also a very common action from liberals and gay action groups.... think chick-fli-a and duck dynasty
                                                                                                Yes, it is.....
                                                                                                And the one group who really don't give a fuck what color you are, what sex you are, your sexual preference, etc... are atheists. (for the most part)

                                                                                                Hell we don't even discriminate againt religious zealots. We will do business with you no matter your belief, Islam, Christian, Jew, Hawiian Huna, etc...... We just think you are delusional idiots in that area, But we will never turn you away or not do business with you because you belive differently about the exsistance of a god.
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                                                                                                One less god!!!
                                                                                                I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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                                                                                                • DAMNMAN
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                  • 1440

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                  Who is controlling who? Who exactly is in "control"? Having a law that someone can't steal your car doesn't mean you or anyone is being "controlled". It means your rights are being protected. The only person that would interpret that as being "controlled" and be resentful towards it would be the guy who really wants to steal cars.

                                                                                                  You are misinterpreting and distorting what I said to fit a predetermined belief that you have, which you wish to defend. I said nothing about "control".

                                                                                                  People don't want to be "controlled". They want structure. They want rules. They want order. They want leaders. They want to survive and reproduce. And "what they want" is the best means to that simple end.
                                                                                                  I said control and your post was an example. In interperate your post to say you agree with being lied to and manipulated for the good of your genes living on. Contol of one form or another.

                                                                                                  My only belief here is that I live amongst crazy ass MFers that beleive in ancient fairy tales. If the crazy MFers stop beleiving in BS and start working for a common human cause My beleif goes away.
                                                                                                  If there weren't people who beleived in god/gods I wouln't have to disbeleive it. I long for the day when people are reasonablee.

                                                                                                  Laws are not control of the same magnitude as religion. If I violate them there is real punishment for my crimes. (I know, what if get get away with it? right?)

                                                                                                  A slave is a slave is a slave.
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                                                                                                  One less god!!!
                                                                                                  I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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                                                                                                  • DAMNMAN
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                    btw, I'm laughing at you, not with you.

                                                                                                    more lolz


                                                                                                    Of course, the personal attacks usually start right around this point in the conversation. (it's only a small attack but, that's worth mentioning)

                                                                                                    I you have such religious conviction.... Why are you in the adult business? On an adult board.
                                                                                                    Clearly you interpret your religious texts differently than others do.
                                                                                                    I have yet bto read a text for the 3 main religions that says selling pussy and cock is OK.
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                                                                                                    One less god!!!
                                                                                                    I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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