Originally Posted by bhutocracy

That's the problem, I'm not talking retard here specifically as he's basically just a troll, but overall it really polarises things and helps prevent real debate. Plenty of people that are pro vaccine like myself know that not all vaccines are equal, more testing is always good and things like an anaphalaxis test for the one in a million that has a proper "going to die from vaccination" reaction would be good. Also genetic testing to determine what type of vaccine they should get (ie no live virus for the people that will react to that) would all be good. But you can't have a rational conversation with someone who believes kill switches are put into vaccines and Bill Gates is giving out vaccines that will control the population in 30 years. When I had my baby in the covered pram (was middle of winter didn't want people sneezing on a brand new baby without a fully functioning immune system) I was almost as worried about hormone mimicking chemicals leeching from the plastic as it has a very plastic smell she was cocooned in. There are risks stemming from the medical, oil and food industry. And it's good to have a sound knowledge of potential issues so we don't eat lead paint chips, bathe in DDT or breathe lead in gas fumes, but when you can't have a reasonable conversation there is just no point.