Dope is for dopes.I have tried on a few friends..no way in hell ..they need to want to and even then it's a constant struggle to stay clean
A friend needs help. drugs. should I help?
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You sound like one of the few in this thread that have actually dealt with a drug abuser.
Coke is not something that can be kicked in a week. It doesn't matter your intentions, if they don't want to quit, they won't.
Unfortunately it usually takes something very drastic for them to see the light, and even then it is a 50/50 deal, at best.Comment
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Actually was an Ex g/f..she smoked heroin.I had spent over 20k trying to help from methadone to rehab..she refused to quit and I couldn't take any more.She wound up dead at 21.Another buddy was so wrapped up in blow he wound up killing himself by blowing his brains out.You sound like one of the few in this thread that have actually dealt with a drug abuser.
Coke is not something that can be kicked in a week. It doesn't matter your intentions, if they don't want to quit, they won't.
Unfortunately it usually takes something very drastic for them to see the light, and even then it is a 50/50 deal, at best.
I'm no saint but whenever I hear any potential g/f's mixed up in anything other than weed,I run not walk away.Comment
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if I put you in a straight jacket it'll only be cause the hookers I bought you were below your standads and you needed to be restrained so they could fuck you and collect their money.
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Now that is funny. the methadone probably fucked her up more than smoking the heroin.Actually was an Ex g/f..she smoked heroin.I had spent over 20k trying to help from methadone to rehab..she refused to quit and I couldn't take any more.She wound up dead at 21.Another buddy was so wrapped up in blow he wound up killing himself by blowing his brains out.
I'm no saint but whenever I hear any potential g/f's mixed up in anything other than weed,I run not walk away.Comment
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I agree with that.That has to be one of the worst ways to treat a junkie.Lock them up in a cell with counseling and let them sweat it out.Even then when they get out all they want and think about is another fix and will always think about it.A near death experience will scare some away from it.I never had the urge to bang anything or smoke that crap.Although I did try it and the high was incredible.thank god I didn't become addictedComment
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Smoking is for chicks. Try the spike. There is a reason it is so popular.I agree with that.That has to be one of the worst ways to treat a junkie.Lock them up in a cell with counseling and let them sweat it out.Even then when they get out all they want and think about is another fix and will always think about it.A near death experience will scare some away from it.I never had the urge to bang anything or smoke that crap.Although I did try it and the high was incredible.thank god I didn't become addictedComment
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Never..all I enjoy is the occasional reefer.I'm getting to old for that crapComment
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I fought my battle with drugs and I won. That's not to say that I'm bigger or better than anyone else; A split decision landed me in Marine Corps boot camp at Paris Island for three months. That kicked my drug habit and I'm never ever going back again.
I can't tolerate people doing drugs in my personal life. I would have hauled him into rehab a while ago.Herschel Savage
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I really think that you should mind your own business and focus on realizing your OWN happiness........You sit up there in dark cold Canada depressed and the next chance you get to be in some sunshine, you waste energy focusing on another "friend's" business?
You need to snap out of it....And you won't really know what I mean UNTIL you actually snap out of it.Comment
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This is the ONLY other person that has made some real sense in this thread....The rest of y'all are brain dead....Seriously.The idea of doing an intervention at a webmaster convention is ridiculous. And no, the person does not have to be ready to quit for an intervention to work. The idea is for close family and friends who are affected by the addict to give them an ultimatum and back them into a corner by deciding to have nothing to do with that person anymore or help them, give them a place to live or give them money so the group can pressure them into going to rehab immediately *before* they think they are ready and before they kill themselves or hurt other people.Comment
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You should let them make their own decisions, whether it is for the better or worse. Let nature take it's course.
Even if you try to help, it will most likely back-fire, especially if you get them thrown in jail. You can't help some one who doesn't want help.Comment
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i don't know anything about this person, but i can think of many reasons why this shouldn't be done at a convention.
- people talk and word will get out about who it is. the addict will resent the fact that this is being done in a place where there are so many people he works with and that you are putting his reputation on the line.
- conventions are full of drugs. you'll be asking them to quit something in the middle of what is essentially a big party.
- you'd be putting him in a place where he'd have too many excuses not to quit. words like hypocrite would be slung around, as well as comments about jealousy and trying to destroy his reputation.
again, i don't know anything about the particular situation but those are just a few thoughts that immediately come to mind.Comment
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It seems the way this company operates doesn't sound like intervention at all and if this (set up) was pulled on me I would not be too happy to say the least and would most likely not cooperate at all.
Friends intervening can be good if done right and if the person is willing to listen and acknowledge that they do need help, but using a company to force some one to quit probably will not work and it could cause allot of resentment towards the people trying to help.
Maybe the Forum is not such a good place to do this....
I wish you guys luck and hope your friend pulls through this.Last edited by Nikki_Licks; 03-25-2008, 05:38 AM.Amateur ContentICQ: 292 356 077Comment
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At an adult webmaster convention?? don't you think that is a terrible place for an intervention??
Someplace away from the party is how you're supposed to do it, and they have to want it anyhow.
If they are going to an adult webmaster convention, drugs are on the schedule already. I would leave them to their own biz.
Interventions never work. Probably some of the best advice in this thread from seasoned users.
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..and giving up drugs to drown yourself in the arms of alcoholism isn't okay either. I can't stand seeing a drug addict get "clean" only to get completely trashed drunk every chance they get. THAT isn't cleaning your life up.
Give up alcohol for a year and you'll really see the light. Most people just accept it because its legal.
Alcohol abuse is worse than any drug, and any of you in here pointing the finger at an addict and you drink booze might want to look in the mirror first. An addict is an addict, so be us all.Comment
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Sleaze you of ALL people should know the value of Tough Love.
Anyone with a drug problem needs to have those who care for them (or in this case a group of strangers) - to humiliate and draw to their attention that Nancy Reagan was right - Just Say No !!
My father if he caught me smoking would stack up on the kitchen table carton's of cigarettes and force me to smoke them to stop me. So if it takes bending a shitload of spoons and using dirty rock salt melting near the 5 last spoons to make them sick and not ever want to do drugs again, then I'm all for it.Comment
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I hope you have at least 15-20 friends Sleazy....
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Apparently you can start curing anyone by saying this..
"I see a bunch of people that love you like crazy, and they feel like they are losing you. They're going to say what they want to say, and you're going to say what you're going to say, and that's it. Will you listen to them?"
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=817388Comment
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Me too. Scott I wish you would have told me earlier about this and I would've come to Phx. Hit me up on ICQ and let me know when your planning it and I'll do my best to come out.
I think some recent business practices only show how far this person will go to fund their addiction.
Your a good man Scott for doing something we should have done a long time ago.Comment









just kidding man. Sorta.




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