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  • Jace
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    • Jan 2004
    • 35562

    #1

    Rick Rolled to child porn = you're a pedophile, says FBI

    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-says-fbi.html

    Everyone has had it happen to them: a "friend" sends you a link in IM or over IRC that purports to be something like a cat in an awkward position with a hilarious caption. Soon, however, you discover that the link wasn't to a lolcat at all; instead, you've been Rick Rolled—or even worse, sent to 2girls1cup (find it on your own, but be warned: it may scar you for life). These pranks are commonplace now, but be careful of what you click on and from whom. If that link points to anything even pretending to be child porn, that's enough evidence for the FBI of intent to download it. The authorities could then raid your home and possibly throw you in jail.

    Such is the case with Temple University doctoral student Roderick Vosburgh, who apparently clicked on an FBI-planted hyperlink somewhere on the Internet. Instead, the link pointed to a file on an FBI server that contained no porn, but logged the IPs of everyone attempting to access it. Vosburgh's IP was one of those, and the FBI came knockin' on his door early one morning, arrested him, and searched his home.

    In fact, this didn't just happen to Vosburgh—the FBI has been using this click-and-be-owned tactic for a few years now, using logged IP addresses as ways to get warrants and charge people with intent to download child porn (a federal crime). The FBI has been linking to these bogus files on message boards that are known to attract child predators, but even the log files don't take into account the referrer—any IP address that shows up is automatically assumed to be guilty. This means that if your drunk friends think it's funny to IM you a link to something that turns out to be to the FBI's covert file, you could be in trouble.
    Last edited by Jace; 03-23-2008, 12:58 PM.
  • ProjectNaked
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    • Jul 2004
    • 4309

    #2
    fucking rediculous and yes you will be branded for life - I can see this being used as a hostile tool against peoples enemies

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    • Iron Fist
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      • Dec 2006
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      #3
      CLICK HERE - OMG!
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      • xmas13
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        • Dec 2004
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        #4
        Holy Shittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt tttttttttttttttttttt
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        • crockett
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          • May 2003
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          #5
          So is the FBI placing real CP on the net in order to catch people or are they planting fake files?
          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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          • pornguy
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            • Mar 2003
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            #6
            That is so fucked up its not even funny.
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            • Jace
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              • Jan 2004
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              #7
              Originally posted by crockett
              So is the FBI placing real CP on the net in order to catch people or are they planting fake files?
              the FBI is planting fake files with links that show that the end user was intending to find child porn

              so, they basically put up a dummy file that says "little girl in panties" and put a dummy file behind it, if you click that link, you go to jail

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              • Jace
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                • Jan 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by pornguy
                That is so fucked up its not even funny.
                man, it is beyond fucked up, that is just plain scary!

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                • NosMo
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #9
                  No No Click Here!!!!!

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                  • crockett
                    in a van by the river
                    • May 2003
                    • 76818

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jace
                    the FBI is planting fake files with links that show that the end user was intending to find child porn

                    so, they basically put up a dummy file that says "little girl in panties" and put a dummy file behind it, if you click that link, you go to jail

                    Not to protect CP, but I could think of a bunch of reasons as to why that shouldn't hold up in the court room. I'm sure there has to be more to the story than just click a link go to jail. Might give them enough reason for a warrant to search for more evidence through.
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                    • xmas13
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                      • Dec 2004
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                      #11
                      Cops trolling craigslist, FBI spamming forums, jesus christ!!!!!
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                      • Klen
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 32234

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jace
                        the FBI is planting fake files with links that show that the end user was intending to find child porn

                        so, they basically put up a dummy file that says "little girl in panties" and put a dummy file behind it, if you click that link, you go to jail
                        Same here,recently there was operation called "sledgehammer" where they busted a lot of pedos using same method.It was funny to hear defense on court of one person,which said how he looked on search engine for musician paul young and then he founded cp sites beacuse of keyword young.Yeah right.

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                        • papill0n
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                          • Oct 2007
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                          #13
                          just fucking wow

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                          • Jace
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                            • Jan 2004
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by crockett
                            Not to protect CP, but I could think of a bunch of reasons as to why that shouldn't hold up in the court room. I'm sure there has to be more to the story than just click a link go to jail. Might give them enough reason for a warrant to search for more evidence through.
                            http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-989...tag=nefd.pulse

                            I would venture to guess they are placing those links VERY carefully

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                            • robfantasy
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                              #15
                              thought crimes, 1984, orwell, FUCK
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                              • Jace
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                                • Jan 2004
                                • 35562

                                #16
                                wow, after reading that cnet article, there is WAY more to the vosburgh story than arstechnica.com is giving us

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                                • MattO
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                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 10861

                                  #17
                                  I have spoken at length with someone I know who is a Fed working in the department that goes after pedos.

                                  He's told me that they can always tell who the real pedos are, by showing an established pattern of seeking out the stuff.

                                  Content in someone's browser cache, for instance won't get them into trouble unless it matches with their surfing habits.

                                  They know about pop-up traps that lead surfers to bad sites, and that people have gotten horrible shit emailed unwanted to them.

                                  Maybe this guy who got into trouble shouldn't have clicked a link that said it led to a 4 year old having anal sex and then trying to destroy some of his storage...

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                                  • V_RocKs
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                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 32451

                                    #18
                                    When you read the second story it is apparent that the first story leaves a lot of shit out.

                                    Like the guy destroyed his hard drive and flash drive when the agents were outside his home. Anyone not guilty would never have even thought about doing this. They would have never assumed, "Ohh... These guys are here because of that link I clicked on in an Email that didn't say CP and gave me a file without CP in it."

                                    He knew why they were there. Because he did have CP on the computer.

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                                    • NetHorse
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                                      • Dec 2006
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                      When you read the second story it is apparent that the first story leaves a lot of shit out.

                                      Like the guy destroyed his hard drive and flash drive when the agents were outside his home. Anyone not guilty would never have even thought about doing this. They would have never assumed, "Ohh... These guys are here because of that link I clicked on in an Email that didn't say CP and gave me a file without CP in it."

                                      He knew why they were there. Because he did have CP on the computer.
                                      +1, the guy sounds guilty to me.
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                                      • pornmasta
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                                        • Jun 2006
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                                        #20
                                        Did you tried 2girls1icecreamcup ?

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                                        • Drake
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                                          • Mar 2003
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                                          #21
                                          This is either an example of overzealous government, or pathetic sensationalist "journalism".
                                          Last edited by Drake; 03-23-2008, 04:34 PM.

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                                          • Fap
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                                            • Feb 2004
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                                            #22
                                            fbi si silly

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                                            • wootpr0n
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                                              #23
                                              I think that the FBI is doing a good job this time (not like the last sting where half the people arrested were victims of credit card theft!).

                                              But look:
                                              -They are posting the links on forums where there is already CP
                                              -They are posting the "videos" as multiple parts, Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, etc and putting these on different URLs
                                              -Then they are going after people who are downloading all of these parts - look at the subpoena
                                              -So it's unlikely that somebody will download all of these separate clips accidentally.
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                                              • mike-al
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                                                #24
                                                the propagand going on in this country, lol

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                                                • moeloubani
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                                                  #25
                                                  I understand what they're doing but I think it should only be grounds for a search - not for charges. If someone clicks those links then they've opened themselves up to be searched, but the charges should come based on whats found in the search and NOT for attempting to download this or that, some people really suck with computers and will literally do anything they're told by someone they think they can trust.

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                                                  • CyberHustler
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                                                    • Feb 2006
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                                                    #26
                                                    Crazy world we live in...
                                                    “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                    • NetHorse
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Cyber-Hu$tler
                                                      Crazy world we live in...
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                                                      • who
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                                                        • Aug 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        So if google scans their links, they capture googlebot IPs, will they go and arrest brin and the other guy?

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                                                        • Kard63
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                                                          • Nov 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          Too many people would use that excuse if not. Makes sense to me. They should hash it out in court. After looking at a log of his activities that seem to indicate he is telling the truth they should let him go.

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                                                          • Violetta
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                                            the FBI is planting fake files with links that show that the end user was intending to find child porn

                                                            so, they basically put up a dummy file that says "little girl in panties" and put a dummy file behind it, if you click that link, you go to jail
                                                            fuck... poor dumbasses clicking those links.
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                                                            • tranza
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                                                              • Jun 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              That's just fucked up....
                                                              I'm just a newbie.

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                                                              • GatorB
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                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                • 18208

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                When you read the second story it is apparent that the first story leaves a lot of shit out.

                                                                Like the guy destroyed his hard drive and flash drive when the agents were outside his home. Anyone not guilty would never have even thought about doing this. They would have never assumed, "Ohh... These guys are here because of that link I clicked on in an Email that didn't say CP and gave me a file without CP in it."

                                                                He knew why they were there. Because he did have CP on the computer.
                                                                I don't have any CP on my computer and never have. I do have a SHITLOAD of regular porn on it. If the auhtorities ever came to bust me who knows if they try to bust me for having "obscene" materials on it. Just to make themselves look good. Think about all the shit on your computer and think if you'd want everyone to know in detail what is on it? And god forbid you have any "teen porn" on it even though the grils are over 18 and not betrayed as underage. The cops will make sure to let the news know they caught you with "kiddie" porn. It doesn't matter if the charges are droped later, the damage to your reputation is done.

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                                                                • just a punk
                                                                  So fuckin' bored
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 32385

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Jace
                                                                  man, it is beyond fucked up, that is just plain scary!
                                                                  As I mentioned already, FBI did a brilliant job for all the blackmailers. Wanna put your american boss, cheating wife/husband or other foe into the jail? That's fuckin' easy! Just sent him/her a magic link and watch the news But "unfortunately" right now this kind of blackmailing will work on the US citizens only.
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                                                                  • GatorB
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                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                    • 18208

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Kard63
                                                                    Too many people would use that excuse if not. Makes sense to me. They should hash it out in court.
                                                                    Sure after everyone in your town knows you got arrested for supposedly having CP you think the cops dropping the charges will make everything ok?

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                                                                    • just a punk
                                                                      So fuckin' bored
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 32385

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                      When you read the second story it is apparent that the first story leaves a lot of shit out.

                                                                      Like the guy destroyed his hard drive and flash drive when the agents were outside his home. Anyone not guilty would never have even thought about doing this. They would have never assumed, "Ohh... These guys are here because of that link I clicked on in an Email that didn't say CP and gave me a file without CP in it."

                                                                      He knew why they were there. Because he did have CP on the computer.
                                                                      Very strange way to assume some one guilty. For example, if I'd have some private pictures of my wife on HDD which had to be "investigated" by some one, I'd destroy it without any doubts. Believe me, there are many other things besides cp that people just don't wanna show anyone.
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