100 Unintended Consequences of Obamacare

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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #1

    100 Unintended Consequences of Obamacare

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...andrew-johnson

    Damn, lots of people are losing their insurance, losing their jobs or having their hours cut because of Obamacare.

    Oh well, Maybe we can get lucky and have the same deal as the DHS in Britain
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ents-year.html
    Last edited by Vendzilla; 11-06-2013, 10:12 AM.
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that
  • whOaKemosabe
    So Fucking Stoned...
    • Aug 2013
    • 1968

    #2
    what happened to the thread you were crying in

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    • 2012
      So Fucking What
      • Jul 2006
      • 17189

      #3
      Unintended

      Unintended





      PIRIUD !
      Last edited by 2012; 11-06-2013, 10:22 AM. Reason: im a retard
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      • BFT3K
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2005
        • 10764

        #4
        Insurance cancelled? Don't blame Obama or the ACA, blame America's insurance companies

        With all the charges flying against President Obama in the on-going effort to stop ObamaCare it?s time for a reality check.

        Having failed to kill the Affordable Care Act in Congress by shutting down the government the opposition is currently taking delight in charging the president with lying to the public when he said anyone who likes their current healthcare plan will be able to keep it under the new law.

        Story continues here (on the Fox News website)...

        http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...nce-companies/

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        • Rochard
          Jägermeister Test Pilot
          • Dec 2001
          • 75733

          #5
          Holy shit already.



          Seriously?

          1. IBM
          Earlier this month, the computer giant, once famed for its paternalism, announced it would remove 110,000 of its Medicare-eligible retirees from the company?s health insurance and give them subsidies to purchase coverage through the Obamacare exchanges. Retirees fear that they will not get the level of coverage they are used to, and that the options will be bewildering.


          So a company is going to be using the exchanges and they will be able to pick what options they want and this is... a bad thing? Sounds to me like it's a good thing - they have more options.

          2. Delta Air Lines
          In a letter to employees, Delta Air Lines revealed that the company?s health-care costs will rise about $100 million next year alone, in large part because of Obamacare. The airline said that in addition to several other changes, it would have to drop its specially crafted insurance plans for pilots because the ?Cadillac tax? on luxurious health plans has made them too expensive.


          The problem with healthcare is that the costs continue to increase every year, and in most cases increases more than raises and cost of living increases. Americans are making less money every year due to healthcare increases.

          Healthcare was going to up no matter what.

          3. UPS
          Fifteen thousand employees? spouses will no longer be able to use UPS?s health-care plan because they have access to coverage elsewhere. The ?costs associated with the Affordable Care Act have made it increasingly difficult to continue providing the same level of health care benefits to our employees at an affordable cost,? the delivery giant said in a company memo. The move is expected to save the company $60 million next year.


          Fuck you. The costs were going to go up anyhow. They do every year, and in huge amounts too. In this case UPS seems to be using "Obamacare" as an excuse.

          If Obamacare didn't exist and they did this next year anyhow, you wouldn't have even noticed.

          4. Caterpillar Inc.
          In the law?s first year, the machinery manufacturer estimated before its passage, Obamacare would add more than $100 million in health-care costs. ?We can ill afford cost increases that place us at a disadvantage versus our global competitors,? a Caterpillar executive wrote lawmakers, saying that the law would not meet the goal of providing good, inexpensive health care for all Americans.


          Where did they get that figure from? Seems like an "estimation". I'm guessing someone who wanted to slam Obamacare made up a figure before the law even went into place - why else are they using the term "estimated".

          It would put them at a "disadvantage versus our global competitors" - who, China?

          5. SeaWorld
          SeaWorld used to let part-time employees work up to 32 hours per week, but the company is dropping the limit to 28 hours to keep them under the 30-hour threshold at which it would be required to provide health insurance under Obamacare. More than 80 percent of the company?s thousands of employees are part-time and/or seasonal.


          Meanwhile Wal Mart has decided to increase the percentage of it's work force to full time employees. Yawn.

          6. Stryker Corp.
          Stryker Corp., a Michigan medical-device manufacturer, laid off about 1,000 employees earlier this year due to the Affordable Care Act?s 2.3 percent excise tax on medical devices. The company estimated that the tax would cost it approximately $100 million next year. ?Stryker remains significantly concerned with the upcoming medical device excise tax and its negative impact on jobs and innovation and will continue to work with Congress to try to repeal the tax,? said the company?s CEO.

          LOL. This is the best one.

          This company increased it's profits 2% up to $2.2 billion. And they can't afford a 2% tax? And they have lay off a thousand employees? Sure sure.

          Vendzilla, all you are doing is posting up misleading sites with half truths. But we've come to expect that from you.
          Herschel Savage
          Brooklyn, NY

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          • Rochard
            Jägermeister Test Pilot
            • Dec 2001
            • 75733

            #6
            Originally posted by BFT3K
            Insurance cancelled? Don't blame Obama or the ACA, blame America's insurance companies

            With all the charges flying against President Obama in the on-going effort to stop ObamaCare it?s time for a reality check.

            Having failed to kill the Affordable Care Act in Congress by shutting down the government the opposition is currently taking delight in charging the president with lying to the public when he said anyone who likes their current healthcare plan will be able to keep it under the new law.

            Story continues here (on the Fox News website)...

            http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...nce-companies/
            Fox News said that? Seriously?
            Herschel Savage
            Brooklyn, NY

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            • Magnetron
              Lord High Groundhog
              • Jun 2013
              • 1841

              #7
              Is he chumming the waters again?
              .
              Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
              and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
              While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
              with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
              you stood for
              ever before the window saying
              nothing

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              • Vendzilla
                Biker Gnome
                • Mar 2004
                • 23200

                #8
                Originally posted by BFT3K
                Insurance cancelled? Don't blame Obama or the ACA, blame America's insurance companies

                With all the charges flying against President Obama in the on-going effort to stop ObamaCare it?s time for a reality check.

                Having failed to kill the Affordable Care Act in Congress by shutting down the government the opposition is currently taking delight in charging the president with lying to the public when he said anyone who likes their current healthcare plan will be able to keep it under the new law.

                Story continues here (on the Fox News website)...

                http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...nce-companies/
                I didn't post any blame, the OP says "unintended" , Do you know what this word means?
                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                think about that

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                • SuckOnThis
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 6844

                  #9
                  Is this thread troll bait too?

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                  • Minte
                    Babemeister
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 7081

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rochard
                    Fox News said that? Seriously?
                    Juan Williams said it..do you know who he is?

                    He is the devils advocate with O'reilly. He wears the bleeding heart liberal cap and gives O'reilly someone to smack down and scream at.
                    You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

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                    • Barry-xlovecam
                      It's 42
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 18083

                      #11

                      2. Delta Air Lines
                      In a letter to employees, Delta Air Lines revealed that the company?s health-care costs will rise about $100 million next year alone, in large part because of Obamacare. The airline said that in addition to several other changes, it would have to drop its specially crafted insurance plans for pilots because the ?Cadillac tax? on luxurious health plans has made them too expensive.
                      Delta Airlines
                      http://www.marketwatch.com/investing...dal/financials

                      $100M Who fuckin' cares? Look at the numbers and the taxes that they paid on their earnings.

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                      • Sly
                        Let's do some business!
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 31377

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                        Delta Airlines
                        http://www.marketwatch.com/investing...dal/financials

                        $100M Who fuckin' cares? Look at the numbers and the taxes that they paid on their earnings.
                        Stockholders care. You might not care that they care, but they will force companies to make cuts to keep them at the same profit levels. If not, stockholders sell and go elsewhere.
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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68184

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Minte
                          Juan Williams said it..do you know who he is?

                          He is the devils advocate with O'reilly. He wears the bleeding heart liberal cap and gives O'reilly someone to smack down and scream at.
                          the insane part about juan williams is what he actually thinks is in no way related to what he speaks. i used to love watching him spar with the conservatives on fox news sunday round table, or at least try to spar with a couple of them, he was no where near the level of bri hume or charles troutehammer(sic) but his getting the boot from the bbc for his anti-muslim comments made me lol. i had always thought he was full of it and that was why he could never really fully argue his position.

                          hah. too funny, i miss that round table.

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