A class action suit has been filed against Too Much Media/NATS and its owners.

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  • Jens Van Assterdam
    The Dupre Pimp
    • Feb 2008
    • 6677

    #51
    i smell drama
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    • TampaToker
      Confirmed User
      • May 2006
      • 5828

      #52
      Originally posted by cykoe6
      Why is it a class action?
      "(?NRM?) seeks damages and equitable relief on behalf of itself
      and on behalf all persons and entities that operate Affiliate Programs"



      By that sentence sounds like there is more then one plaintiff . I think you need at least 5 parties for a class action but i could be wrong...
      Icq 247-742-205

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      • Evil E
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2005
        • 3201

        #53
        Interesting.


        A girl once told me "Give me 8 inches and make it HURT".

        So, I fucked her twice and hit her with a brick.

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        • Jace
          FBOP Class Of 2013
          • Jan 2004
          • 35562

          #54
          anyone know if this is about the security leak or about TMM posting the license suspended thing?

          if it is about the security leak, well, um, no rivals doesn't even use NATS, and hasn't for a long ass time

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          • tucker
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2002
            • 584

            #55
            Originally posted by Jace
            don't forget jason tucker and gail harris

            http://www.brandilove.info/amateur-s...tacts-main.htm
            Hey Jace -
            I
            was
            not
            consulted
            nor
            do
            I
            think
            this
            makes
            ANY
            sense.

            My 2 cents: Someone in this case appears to be continuing the process of avoiding life and well...certain responsibilities.

            That is all...

            Back to the rumor mill.

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            • D
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2006
              • 7412

              #56
              -D.
              ICQ: 202-96-31

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              • Jace
                FBOP Class Of 2013
                • Jan 2004
                • 35562

                #57
                Originally posted by tucker
                Hey Jace -
                I
                was
                not
                consulted
                nor
                do
                I
                think
                this
                makes
                ANY
                sense.

                My 2 cents: Someone in this case appears to be continuing the process of avoiding life and well...certain responsibilities.

                That is all...

                Back to the rumor mill.
                wow, cool man, glad to hear it

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                • tranza
                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 57559

                  #58
                  They are sueing TMM AGAIN??????
                  I'm just a newbie.

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                  • Jace
                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 35562

                    #59
                    found this funny

                    "NRM’s profitable and popular on-line Internet business and sabotaged NR LCC from its inception."

                    which is why people are askin.. who's NR?

                    hahahaha

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                    • GAMEFINEST
                      Make STACK$
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 14470

                      #60
                      hmmmm , last action aye
                      Compound interest.

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                      • pocketkangaroo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 8452

                        #61
                        Holy shit, just read through it. Some explosive claims made in it. Would surely kill their business if true.

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                        • pocketkangaroo
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 8452

                          #62
                          Here is a line:

                          "it was publicly disclosed that NATS contained a design defect that appears to have been intentionally incorporated in the program, and which enabled Schank, an apparent agent and/or representative and/or employee of TMM, to invade the servers of NATS users and convert and misappropriate the information stored thereon."

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                          • Doctor Dre
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 51692

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Karupted Charles
                            I was always told the ones who always made money during the gold rushes were the guys selling shovels. During the internet boom it was the designers and programers who saw steady cash. No doubt the winners here will be the lawyers. The thing about court is you never know how it will turn out.
                            The designers and the programmers were the winner ? I don't know many millionaire designers, look at AlienQ, he was there during the internet boom and he's still brok.e
                            Originally posted by rayadp05
                            I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                            • DebsDeep
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 2649

                              #64
                              I better park here for a lil while
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                              • Jace
                                FBOP Class Of 2013
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 35562

                                #65
                                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                Here is a line:
                                I would think they would need a kickass fucking lawyer with that type of accusation

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                                • Andy Servers4Less
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                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 922

                                  #66
                                  late sig spot
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                                  • ProjectNaked
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2004
                                    • 4309

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                    Here is a line:
                                    It was quite obvious there was dirty shit going on....the problem is there appears to be an attempted cover up.

                                    When you deal with companies that actually have money you had better have the time, funds, and effort to defend yourself when you screw up and then screw up trying to cover it....

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                                    • mrkris
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2005
                                      • 2737

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                      Hey man, sorry I missed your email - I never check that these days; I never saw you on ICQ. You still need something?
                                      Just hitting you up to say hi. Been a while ...

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                                      • 3xTom
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 1610

                                        #69
                                        Hummmmmm Did the Drama Lama Just Fart........

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                                        • ThumbLord

                                          #70
                                          very interesting !

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                                          • MediumPimpin
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 1488

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                            this is newer I think, i think this has to do with tmm posting all over the boards about NR having their license suspended

                                            to me it seems like a way to extend the other proceedings, deflecting attention if you will, but I have been wrong in the past
                                            I agree with ya, they need to just pay their damn webmasters, what happend to all that cash, the people burned and the site is still up, what a joke.
                                            nats.mediumpimpin.com

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                                            • D
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2006
                                              • 7412

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by tucker
                                              Hey Jace -
                                              I
                                              was
                                              not
                                              consulted
                                              nor
                                              do
                                              I
                                              think
                                              this
                                              makes
                                              ANY
                                              sense.

                                              My 2 cents: Someone in this case appears to be continuing the process of avoiding life and well...certain responsibilities.

                                              That is all...

                                              Back to the rumor mill.
                                              Always a pleasure to see ya about, Jason. :-)
                                              -D.
                                              ICQ: 202-96-31

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                                              • Due
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2001
                                                • 3620

                                                #73
                                                Is NR = Naked Rhino? or something similar to that, I remember that name from somewhere but cant remember from what
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                                                /Due

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                                                • Jace
                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                  • 35562

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Due
                                                  Is NR = Naked Rhino? or something similar to that, I remember that name from somewhere but cant remember from what
                                                  as it has been said in the thread numorous times, NR is No Rivals, which used to be Naked Rhino

                                                  do a search on GFY for naked rhino or xclusivecash, it will jog your memory

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                                                  • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 7515

                                                    #75
                                                    Great!

                                                    Good luck suing these assholes, guys

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                                                    • ninavain
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 6268

                                                      #76
                                                      holy fuckerballs

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                                                      • Due
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                        • 3620

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Jace
                                                        as it has been said in the thread numorous times, NR is No Rivals, which used to be Naked Rhino

                                                        do a search on GFY for naked rhino or xclusivecash, it will jog your memory
                                                        Thanks now it is more clear, it seemed to me the discussion was if NR was no rivals or naked rhino, I remember the xclusivecash threads
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                                                        /Due

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                                                        • Multimedia
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                          • 118

                                                          #78
                                                          This is the american way to make it rich!! Sue someone that creates something that is profitable. I do not get how people have so much time to sit in court and deal with all of this bs. Why is this on the boards in the first place? Well to get some drama going on the boards, but besides that it doesn't help the case.
                                                          TMM will now pursue this to clear their good name and also waste alot of $ on the lawyers to fight it. You got to love conducting business in the adult world.
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                                                          • Multimedia
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2008
                                                            • 118

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Jet
                                                            Great!

                                                            Good luck suing these assholes, guys
                                                            Wow , I would of quoted this one with my response. I do not get why you are such a sheep and have to get involved in everything on the board and waste our time reading your posts that are comprised of nothing worth reading.
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                                                            • james_clickmemedia
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                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                              • 2204

                                                              #80
                                                              yawn...yawn
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                                                              • SiMpLe
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                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                • 3221

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                i guess this is the drama gfy was looking for.
                                                                And right before the Phx show even!!
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                                                                • mrkris
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                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                  • 2737

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Multimedia
                                                                  Wow , I would of quoted this one with my response. I do not get why you are such a sheep and have to get involved in everything on the board and waste our time reading your posts that are comprised of nothing worth reading.
                                                                  Perhaps you don't know the facts. From what I have heard, there has been some beyond shady tactics with NATS.

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                                                                  • Multimedia
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2008
                                                                    • 118

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by mrkris
                                                                    Perhaps you don't know the facts. From what I have heard, there has been some beyond shady tactics with NATS.
                                                                    I know many clients that use nats and I have helped them set up Nats and other TMM products. It is funny how all of these " Shady Tactics" come out in the open. It is usually coming from people that have something to gain off making this news come out in the open. I am sure that TMM is not in business to hurts its clients. They try and help their clients get started in any way they can. They also let them into their home, office and also take good care of them at the events.

                                                                    If you do not know about any of these alleged tactics in first person, then it usually is good thing not to talk about them. We are all here to do business ont he boards, well that is the way it used to be. This is nothing against you Mr.Kris, just in general. I realize you are just saying a rumor that you heard, that happens to be one that is not valid.
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                                                                    • Drake
                                                                      Hello world!
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 12508

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Lawyers' dream

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                                                                      • TheDoc
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 13827

                                                                        #85
                                                                        This is the stupidest case I have ever seen. They clearly have no clue what happened then or in the past.

                                                                        Just to point out the obvious, they think TMM has data that they clearly do not track or have access too, at all and no court could get them to get the data.

                                                                        I would be interested in seeing what other 'honest' companies have joined this witch hunt.
                                                                        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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                                                                        • esellc
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                                          • 4

                                                                          #86
                                                                          The Collapse of the Affiliate Marketing Model

                                                                          The Commission Junction and the 2Much Media/NATS Complaints seem to be on track to collapsing the Affiliate Marketing Model which has become like a giant pyramid scheme. With several of the largest Affiliate Programs claiming double digit losses in revenue and/or market share the reasons are multifaceted and so many areas need to be addressed.

                                                                          The re-filing of the 2Much Media (NATS) case last night may broaden the scope of the hit on the adult industry and the complaint asks the court to be recognized as a class action law suit. With the Commission Junction Class Action it was slow to get companies to jump in which may also be the case with the TMM Motion to be heard in late April. I look forward to the TMM response and I am sure it won't end there.

                                                                          Although both cases are different on merits having two of the largest affiliate program managers under fire and in litigation is not good.

                                                                          You can find a copy of the Commision Junction complaint on line - I haven't posted 30 times so I can't include the url.

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                                                                          • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                            Now choke yourself!
                                                                            • Apr 2006
                                                                            • 12085

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by mrkris
                                                                            Just hitting you up to say hi. Been a while ...
                                                                            Yeah, it's been forever, man. So, how's mostly mainstream? I just sent you a guy looking for a coder.

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                                                                            • mrkris
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2005
                                                                              • 2737

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Multimedia
                                                                              I know many clients that use nats and I have helped them set up Nats and other TMM products. It is funny how all of these " Shady Tactics" come out in the open. It is usually coming from people that have something to gain off making this news come out in the open. I am sure that TMM is not in business to hurts its clients. They try and help their clients get started in any way they can. They also let them into their home, office and also take good care of them at the events.

                                                                              If you do not know about any of these alleged tactics in first person, then it usually is good thing not to talk about them. We are all here to do business ont he boards, well that is the way it used to be. This is nothing against you Mr.Kris, just in general. I realize you are just saying a rumor that you heard, that happens to be one that is not valid.
                                                                              I guess we will just see what happens, huh.

                                                                              PHP-MySQL-Rails | ICQ: 342500546

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                                                                              • swedguy
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                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                • 7981

                                                                                #89
                                                                                WTF??

                                                                                Two years ago everybody thought NATS was da shit.

                                                                                I suck at Legalese. What happened? NATS is not around anymore?

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                                                                                • 2012
                                                                                  So Fucking What
                                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                                  • 17189

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  minusoneclit strikes again
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                                                                                  • Tat2Jr
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                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 4882

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                    In Class Action suits, lawyers are the only winners. The Plaintiffs collect, on average, $1.65/ea.
                                                                                    I hope my $1.65 is still worth a Euro by the time I get mine.
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                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 107089

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by esellc
                                                                                      You can find a copy of the Commision Junction complaint on line - I haven't posted 30 times so I can't include the url.
                                                                                      Hi Shellee.

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                                                                                      • Tat2Jr
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                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 4882

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                                                                                        I hope my $1.65 is still worth a Euro by the time I get mine.
                                                                                        and btw - you can keep my fucking euro - I don't want no part of this stupid bs
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                                                                                        • esellc
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                                                          • 4

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                          Hi Shellee.
                                                                                          Hey Bad Dog... What are you wearing?

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                                                                                          • Quentin
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 1280

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            For those that have not seen a copy of the "second amended and supplemental complaint" filed by NRM, there's a link to the complaint at the bottom this article on XBIZ -- look for the little pdf icon below the article and text that says "Read the complaint."

                                                                                            - Q.
                                                                                            Q. Boyer

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                                                                                            • swedguy
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 7981

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Finally caught up with the whole NATS mess.

                                                                                              http://www.icwt.us/index.php/2007/12...s-compromised/

                                                                                              DAMN!! We are talking serious fuck up!

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                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by esellc
                                                                                                Hey Bad Dog... What are you wearing?
                                                                                                Well, just got back from a bike ride, so Levi's and boots at the moment.

                                                                                                You?

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                                                                                                • TheDoc
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 13827

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by swedguy
                                                                                                  Finally caught up with the whole NATS mess.

                                                                                                  http://www.icwt.us/index.php/2007/12...s-compromised/

                                                                                                  DAMN!! We are talking serious fuck up!
                                                                                                  This guys info is all around wrong. Yeah he hits some points but that article is pretty much pure lies and slander.
                                                                                                  ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                  It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                    • 107089

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by swedguy
                                                                                                    Finally caught up with the whole NATS mess.

                                                                                                    http://www.icwt.us/index.php/2007/12...s-compromised/

                                                                                                    DAMN!! We are talking serious fuck up!
                                                                                                    Like minusabrain is going to give an unbiased report.

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                                                                                                    • Jace
                                                                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                      • 35562

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by swedguy
                                                                                                      Finally caught up with the whole NATS mess.

                                                                                                      http://www.icwt.us/index.php/2007/12...s-compromised/

                                                                                                      DAMN!! We are talking serious fuck up!
                                                                                                      take that with a grain of salt

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