Wow! Check Out The New Mac Pro !

Lol to all the fanboys who think their Macs are made with something other than the same parts that PC's are made of, but for 2-3x the cost.

Seriously though, explain this value that you seem to believe you get with an outdated computer that is 2-3 times more expensive than the latest and greatest hardware available on the market?

what to say, this really looks great

Flawless, trouble free service for 15 years, great support when needed. Why would I switch when I want to buy something new?

It is an amazing design, but it's stupid.
Now anyone who wants to spend enough for an automobile can have a star trek looking machine on their desk which probably can't be upgraded or anything

6 processors? really... must be an apple thing...it does not have 6 processors, it has 6 cores.
but 6 cores has been put for awhile, I have a 6 core intel i7 processor and 512 gig SSD hard drive and four 3TB sata 6 hard drives..all inside my computer.. running at a spiffy 4.2 ghz with a liquid cooler

My time is far too valuable to tinker. I can pay any idiot to do that for me if I need it (which I don't, I run a real Mac).

Sorry that work consumes your life?

Funny thing though... you can pay any idiot to build you a computer and install OS X on it for you, yet you are incapable of doing so yourself.

You then say you own a "real mac" but at the end of the day, a "real mac" is nothing more than an overpriced PC that runs OS X operating system.

I built a PC for far less than a "real mac", and it runs OS X 100% perfectly.

As far as time goes, I have the freedom of being able to spend time on things other than work.
As far as money goes, I saved a solid 50% or more by building my own.

Seems to me that I win when it comes to both time and money.

I'm not sure why you inferred that from the data provided. My time is valuable to me in all regards, whether it be in work or leisure pursuits.


I build robots, which is one of my hobbies (building computers is NOT, since it's essentially a glorified lego set requiring almost no specific skill-sets and hardly any intellect). I hardly think that it's beyond the scope of my abilities.

I'm not implying that I *would* pay someone to do this for me. If you offered me a PC with Mac OS X on it for $1, or a genuine Mac at the customary Apple price, I am going to choose the one with the warranty and official support included every time. This is just part of how I streamline my life. Chasing down and solving technical problems isn't engaging or challenging to me, so I don't derive enjoyment from it. While I certainly CAN grow my own corn, I'd rather pay a farmer to do it. If you ENJOY growing corn, like you seem to enjoy tinkering with computers, more power to you. I just don't.


... with a warranty and support from Apple, that I don't have to expend any energy maintaining or configuring.


That works for you, and that's great. I don't view $4,000-$6,000 as worth the trade-off of the couple of hours initial build, and continued involvement in a community I have no interest in (Hackintosh). It's just dry and boring to me, sorry.


And you choose to spend it on something like this, so that's great. I choose not to; it's not intellectually challenging, it's not stimulating, and it's not fun for me. I've built computers, I've built lots of things, "been there, done that," I don't continue to do it.


If that's important to you, then that's fine. I gave Apple my credit card number and didn't look back. I continue to do it every time a revision comes along, for my laptop, my desktop, and my phone. I like having the latest and greatest from the brand I prefer, and I like having genuine products, not knockoffs.

The value is not just in its parts. Thats what everyone keeps missing.

Well, so many people make this argument as a reason for not doing something, but to me it just makes it sound like work consumes them.

I never suggested it was difficult, in fact I stated otherwise in other threads related to this topic. You could have just as easily said though that you could build it yourself if you wanted, but you didn't. You stated that you could pay any idiot to do it for you which suggests that you are incapable of building one yourself.

By the way, are EEPPROMs still used for robotics? I used to dabble in that a while back, not specifically in robots but close enough.

I never suggested that you *would* either.

The whole warranty argument is pretty weak though. Every component I buy is under warranty, some parts -- I'd argue the most important -- come with a lifetime or limited lifetime warranty. With a "real Mac" you get the 1, or 3 year warranty depending on whether you opted to pay extra, and once it's up, good luck. Where you'd be stuck having to replace an entire machine, I'd simply swap out a part.

I own and operate a business. Keeping costs down wherever possible is the name of the game. See, the less my company has to spend on things means more money in my pocket.

I have no involvement in the hackintosh community. I find that it's faster and easier to just figure a problem out for myself rather than try to get 'community' help.


I never argued that it was. Building a PC takes little more than common sense. It can be argued though that these days, very few people have common sense.

Sorry but your argument fails twice here.

1. The only Mac thus far that has even close the "the latest and greatest" is the Mac Pro coming out soon. The rest of the time you pretty much end up with last years technology in this years "new" [insert apple product here]. Oh and when something new comes along, 9 times out of 10 I don't have to replace my entire system, I simply replace X component.

2. You cannot call something a knock-off when your "new" "real Mac" has the same exact components inside as my PC does, well, last years PC anyway. Same intel processors, same nvidia/ati/intel graphics, same [insert cheapest bidder here] memory/hard disks/etc. If you were to ever open up your "real Mac" you'd find more logos of other companies inside than you do of Apple. The Apple logo is only on the outside heh.

Getting 2 as soon as they are out, spending $4K for a machine that works 4-5 years and makes you happy and makes a shitload of money seems a great deal to me.

1000s of PC fanboys right now:

Personally I'd rather spend $2K every second year and always have a computer that is up to date.