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more and more free porn....Comment
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its all the same.... shitty traffic that doesnt lead too many sales... just more dick pullers wasting bw.Comment
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they just look like a big paysite but none of the membership fee's.Comment
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That is why you routinely do random searches for your stuff. Then hit the tubes with a C&D.
I am working with my attorney to get even tougher on those who repeatedly take full length videos and post them. I do not care about the 20-30 second samples. But clips that are 10 minutes in length, and posting a whole series is ridiculous.
Luckily the megauploads, and rapidshares remove things within 48 hours of being contacted. Youtube/Google has removed our videos as well, and provided a tool for me to use to get things removed immediately. You have to fill out a legal C&D for them to have on file, then you get the tool.
Thats nice you have to serve a C&D for a tool used to maintenance their site for them.
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this point is very true. People saw youtube copied it and failed to realize that the only thing you can upsell on a porn site is.... porn. The only possible thing in porn you can upsell on a tube site is cams and dating. So you are very very limited on how you can make money from a porn tube vs a mainstream tube. The whole tube model is setup to make money off of selling ads.
The sky is falling for Traditional picture and video membership sites. Sites that offer no live cam or interaction with it's users. Also TGPs will be done in 1 - 2 years. Less people visit them and even less will be signing up to the galleries listed there. Sure some people are making money with them now, but as time goes on that will be less and less. As the people buying the links on tgps make less money, the cost of those spots will be reduced.
The rest of porn is fine. If you own a cam site or dating, sell sex toys, etc... If you own a site that has interaction with the members. These sites will be fine.
A sponsor who only uses their own videos and only shows video clips that are a couple minutes long is basically providing the same things as a mgp. Instead of 4, 30 second clips from the same scene, they let people see the whole 2 minutes in 1 clip. Same thing, they just trying to call it a " tube site".ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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You are really confused... You can't compare tgps with tube sites..
And tube sites from sponsors are nosense sites, because they only post their own clips and give no chance to the submitter to post.Comment
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Do you host this on cube share?
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Thats just pathetic, you actually bring up a key reason why the tube sites are getting so popular. The TGP trading system is just a revised circle jerk. 10 MILLION TGPs out there blind linking the hell out of 90% of their galleries sending them to another site. People get tired of that shit. Click on a big picture of a nice shaven beaver and you expect to be sent to a gallery of nice shaven beaver, instead they get sent to a bbw site with lousy thumbnails.
Tube sites are the future. Only because of the stupid business models us adult webmasters use in our current websites are pissing off all our visitors.ICQ number: 497388922Comment
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tube sites do not produce content. they dont really sell sites, which pay content providers to make content, so if tube sites kill paysites, then who is gonna pay the content guys and girls to produce? just trying to follow the chain all the way back down.ICQ=360616223Comment
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I agree with this statement, in that Tube sites offer the surfer, not only higher quality content and more of it, but also a better surfing experience. If Tube sites are able to profit from such a business model, then TGPs and MGPs will see a steady decline in traffic over the long run.Last edited by SomeCreep; 11-24-2007, 10:50 AM.Comment
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tube sites = a site mostly of free loaders who leech so much and cost the site a fuckload in b\w bills.Want to submit your videos and images with a automatic tube software submission program to 1000+ tube sites?
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Millions to be made!Comment
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This seems to be the bad end of this. TGP's and MPG's did change the system and less people bought memberships. We see this in our ratios over the years. But they still sold porn.
IF the paysites can keep there content off the big tubes maybe we can all keep doing what we are doing but if they can't, who is going to pay to see what they just saw for free?Comment
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There is enough free porn on the net right now to last generations, even if another porn video or content was never made again. There will be no short supply of porn and if someone started watching the porn that was out there now they could spend a lifetime watching and never see it all.
The " if people stop paying for memberships, the sites will go out of business and no one will produce new porn" argument I don't think matters at all in the big picture of things.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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most of the out of box tube sites can be hacked in 2 secs
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Harder to make money with the tube sites, i believeComment
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hell yeah, especially if you want to run a legal one. You have to buy content to use on your own site. If you allow members to submit content you will run into legal problems, not wise imo.
Now you are hosting the content, you pay out the ass for bandwidth.
You can't upsell to membership sites since that is the content you giving away for free. All you can advertise is cams, dating, and toy sales.
Oh and you still need to get traffic to the site
Think of all the people who tried to start TGPS and all they had to do was plug in FHGs and send traffic and they couldnt get that done. Now these same people are going to try to start tube sites because " tubes" are the popular word of the day.
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Well the truth is that once I was a surfer I always searched for the tgp's where I could very easily identify the "circle jerk" links from the "real links" and never got back to those who had too much shit instead of content.
Actually as far as I remember I liked fuckingfreemovies . com, p-bot . com - not that much video but well hand picked, updated and not too misleading.
Well studying a technical university with 10 "girls" (read female technical university students) out of 1 200 students in a year surely helps to get very knowledgeable about porn
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Oh boy...
My slant :
Make a tube site and use your fine eye for content selection to keep the surfer on your site until they sign up.
I thought about it, contemplated it, juggled it, then I just did it.
Debating about tube sites is like spitting in the wind.
Been there, done that, did something about it...see sig!
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If true user uploaded tube sites ever become completely "legal" then I can tell you that they will suck.
A tube site that is just us uploading our own content with link codes in it isn't really "user generated". And from hunting down and finding my own stolen content over and over and having it taken down, the one thing I discovered on the forums is that the "users" (surfers) are really into stealing content and getting a pat on the back from all the freeloaders for doing a "great job" at "finding" the porn.
No, tube sites will either be a bunch of stolen content OR they won't have a big audience because the "users" won't really have any content.
So do Tubes = TGP/MGP
I don't think so.
I think: TUBE = Karaoke
And just like Karaoke is people singing along pretending to be stars, Tube is...
Posers pretending to be porn kings by uploading others stuff and then congratulating themselves on the tube forums.
Of course it's way better than the script generated "automatic" bullshit TGP's. But no way it's better than a REAL human created and hand run TGP with a true relationship with it's audience.-Robbie
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Over 400 legal tube sites and counting. I'v got 5 myself. :D
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I now have 7, but I would rather have good quality niche sites then 15 general hardcore tube sites. Go niche and your find the sale. Go general porn and you will see 1:5000.
BTW - All TEVS webmasters can now buy an extra license for only $120 each. Saving you $60 per license.Last edited by Zorgman; 03-16-2008, 05:46 PM.---Comment
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tubes should NEVER be like a TGP/MGP.
I don't really consider TEVS a tube script but would define it more as a badass replacement for TGPs.
The term "tube script" is getting tossed around like crazy simply because there isn't a proper term for the kind of site which TEVS but its not a real "tube"-- QUOTE ME IT MAKES ME FEEL SPECIAL --Comment
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cool well why I read another one of these threads my toob site made 400$ today. Thanks for telling me toob sites are the future polish guy.Comment
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People tend to forget it's the CONSUMERS that drive the trends, the programs simply respond to meet demand. You have to provide content to consumers in venues that they expect, or they will simply go to those that will. Drive-ins phased out and the evolutionary chain has developed and Imax and the like are king.. the same happens with the internet... people still demand their product, but in a delivery method THEY choose.Comment
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doesn't everyone have a tube site by now? we've got a legal tube site
i thought they were like assholes, everyone has one... no?New models booked and shot every week... MILFs, pornstars and teens. Girls for every niche and project.
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Sad to say but fucking the surfer, the people who pay us, goes way beyond TGPs and click jerking. This industry has fucked the paymaster for years. And that makes me sad.
Pop up hells because one sign up came.
Pre clicked join links on a join page.
Hiding the cancel button.
Selling a site for $30 that's not worth $3.
Simply put and there are exceptions, over and over we have fucked surfers and members because we had contempt for people who pay for porn and thought they had few options. All the while we saw conversion ratios slipping. But made excuses so we could carry on down the same route.
It's not just TGPs click jerking and Tube sites to blame for surfers reluctance to pay for Internet porn, it's partly our fault. Who here would buy from an industry that treated their customers so badly?
It rips me apart to have to say this, but after 8 years of trying to get people to see the surfer is the guy who really counts I failed. I wish I had tried harder.
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