How bad will the impending economic disaster hurt porn?
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I hope they do. lol. imo all depends if the cc companies start cutting back open lines and raising rates to stupid numbers. -
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I hope so
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Resession? Probably bits and pieces.. if it weren't for content theft, I'd think we might not even notice a recession - people still entertain themselves during a recession, and a $30/month membership is a lot cheaper than even one night on the town - whether you already have a member of the opposite sex secured, or no. I say the current problems of content theft get multiplied, though, and tip the scales to work against us... I think having less cash could prompt Mr. Joe-Average to further justify his journey into the bitch-ass world of partaking of stolen content.
Depression... that'd probably be a lot worse. I think we'll be the first to feel the brunt of an actual "depression," because I assume reputable/ignorant (in regards to content theft) people would give up their porn - and go back to using their imagination and mental "yank-banks" to get the job done before selling their dining room sets.-D.
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Depends on how deep and how long. I don't think 2001 caused many of us any trouble.
But if "economic disaster" then yes. Sure.
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To really answer the question you'd want to look at porn consumption in 2001, 1991, 1980-82 and maybe even 1974. But what will you look at? Sales for public porn companies? I don't think how Playboy fared in the recession of 1991 would be a very good proxy for onlines sales in a 2008 recession.
How different was the early 80s recession with an 11% unemployment rate from the short, quick recession of 2001? Like Baddog pointed out it depends on what choices people are forced to make. And then you have unemployment which can take even those choices away. Not a lot of savers out there ready for unemplyment.
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its a maybeCompound interest.Comment
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Vices are the best stocks during recessions
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yes, yes they doComment
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I guess so. They need something to keep them happy in hard times...
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I disagree. If you find that porn sales decreased during those recessions you'd have a pretty good indicator. Only if sales increased or stayed the same do you have the more complex situation.
Though I don't think there is enough data on porn sales available from those recessions to matter anyway.
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people need to escape from reality, porn helps with that
when there's a recession/depression people still need to escape from reality, generally even moreso than before
personally I don't think porn will ever die, it might morph into a different delivery model but I doubt it will ever go away, cos especially during the roughest times, people will always need to fantasize and seek to escape their day-to-day drudgery/misery/stress
besides.. it's cheaper to rent a porno (or subscribe to a paysite) and bang your chick on the couch (or the dining room, kitchen or wherever) than it is to go out to dinner and a movie
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Since I only know the webcam biz (and just barely), and haven't been through a recession, I don't have much practical insight. However, I would guesstimate that the "consumption" will stay about the same for hardcore users (addicts) but for the mid-range and light users they will perhaps make smarter choices.
For example, I am already noticing lower average purchase amounts (for cam sites, of course) but overall the number of sales is fairly steady. That could just be coincidental but I will monitor in the coming months just for curiosity.Comment
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thankfully there are many other countries other than the US on the planet.Comment
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It wouldnt be a indicator because the playing field is different. There was no free porn back then unless you wanted to try and watch the playboy channel scrambled. Since there was no free porn, porn never got hit hard and thats why people say the adult industry is recession proof but that was a time before you could watch 30 min scenes for free.Comment
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With real inflation at around 18% right now, adult sites need to raise their prices IMO.Comment
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There's no money in recession
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I think we will be fine. There will be plenty of people with jobs still, they just curb spending, but mostly on big ticket items. People don't buy big screen TVs and cars and vacations, they do buy CDs and DVDs and stuff like that. There is no reason to think that just because there is a recession, guys will want to stop pounding their meat. There is a lot of free stuff out there, but people will still pay if you offer them something they really want to see. Also if so many people stop paying for anything and just visit tube sites, the tube sites sales will disappear and they will no longer be able to afford to keep the site up.
If it is a major recession like 20% unemployment and stuff like that, then it could effect us, but we are trully a global market and there are more and more ways to make sales to people from other countries.
In the end when times are tough people want a diversion to take their mind off the troubles. what better diversion is there than hot naked girls?Comment
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How does this counter my case where you look into the data of the past and discover that porn actually DID go into a recession along with other industries in the past? The difficulty with the initial assumption that it is (or was) recession-proof is that some of have heard it for so long we assumed it was true in the past just based on the statement. How many of us have been through even the last two recessions as business owners? Even if so how relevant would those limited experiences be? Phone text? Store owner? Whate would even qualify as related?
Who has dug up the SEC reports of Playboy from 1970 to the present even to initially and tentatively verify the assumption? I think that is the only data even possibly available.
I'm having a difficult time believing that some consulting firm put together evidence after the '74 recession that porn was a "recession proof business".
You could do this pretty easy for alcohol or cigarettes but porn is gonna be really tough.
Again i will repeat. I think if you find in the best case that porn was in a recession similar to other industries in the past we will go into an industry-recession this time. The point YOU'VE made only enhances that. With the option to move to more free porn the industry will be hit even harder than then.
I make ZERO claim to actually knowing how the industry handled recession overall in say 74 or 80. Did people buy more or less porn then? Not a clue.Last edited by ADL Colin; 03-14-2008, 02:58 PM.
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Agreed there. That and we have to take the possibility of a worldwide recession seriously. There's certainly concern in the UK. It's difficult to imagine a long US recession not causing a number of regional recessions or maybe even a truly global one.
How deep, no one knows.
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"When US economy goes down, the rest of world suffer 2x more" or how is that saying...
US global consumption is still the most important thing for global economy.
And for sure ChinIndia isnt going to save rest of world economy. Both countries are already feeling US recession and it just started.Comment
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Hey, it's cheaper than dating.Comment
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With so much given away for free people will choose to spend their money on other stuff. Porn sites with the personal touch will weather the storm better because there's more of an emotional payoff that people can't get from free porn but really need/want more when times are bad.
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And I'll bet dating sites will continue to do really well, too.Comment
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When the USA stops throwing Trillions of dollars down the toilet in the middle east - then we'll be out of this recession.
Let's just hope John McCain doesn't get in - cause if he does we're fucked.
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Note that pornographic videos exploded in popularity during the particularly tough recession of the 1970s. Although back then they didn't have free porn like they do now...IntegralPay LLC | www.integralpay.com
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