Originally posted by Cheshire So it comes out that my computer at work was named into the network as my real name... problem will be solved immediately. Curious how my emails have to my knowledge never before been stamped with my network identification.
mrthumbs ~ I do apologize for bringing this to gfy, and I hope you re read those emails I sent you where I repeatedly asked you how you knew my name and see how I was very serious, upset, and CLEAR about wanting to protect my privacy, and to know where your information came from.
Your responses to me about protecting your source of information on me appeared to imply that you have A SOURCE OF INFORMATION ON ME, which opens the door to the question 'what else does he know'.
That question could have been answered quickly, but a game ensued. I played along I see, and maybe I came off as accusing you of stalking (yes I see the title of this thread) ~ but it is a legitimate question when someone knows a little too much information about you and is not forthcoming about how.
CHESHIRE: mrthumbs ~ I do apologize for bringing this to gfy,
Ok.. but why didnt you just call me to sort out what the fuck
was going on?
I never said anything bad or negative about you..
Even my doubts about you being real where/are
overshadowed by the fact you're an entertaining
personality that seemed smart and in for a joke.
I fucking told you that in ALL the emails.
If you REALLY feel the way about this as you described
then obviously there is no need to apologize, i should.
Not that that changes anything: from now whenever somebody raises
a thumbs near a female GFY member teargass will be
pulled out.. But hey.. Reputation is a matter of second
and luck i guess..
And I think everyone knows my handle is cheshire, and my nickname is Kat ~ which was blocked out with *** in the full emails mrthumbs felt necessary to publish on his behalf.
As I said earlier I was not comfortable with disclosing a certain email as I live to be humble and find talking about myself as a form of serious self-publicity to dishonorable. I was embarassed to read what I had written to mrthumbs in explanation to how I had become recognized on this board. That fact remains that seven months ago a person who posts here made a flattering gesture that has turned into something dear to my heart. Maybe my explaination of that in my emails expresses my joy of how people on this board are so sweet to me.
Many have shown their true colors to me today ~ and I thank those who understood why I did this.
pathfinder - I'm sorry to you for things I've said.
Originally posted by mrthumbs But you're not right this time and making a quick
judgement that is false.
And i know that if i would be reading this i at
least would think "if there's smoke there is fire.."
Cutting up statements out of an email is the easy
way to go.. but if you look at the whole picture
(context) and Cheshire starting this conversation with me
you would probably have done the same in my conversation.
I mean.. c'mon.. READ the fucking email and there's
NOTHING scary.. and EVERYTHING is clearly in a
joking 'way'. If i would found her firstname in an old
post: OK.. maybe she forgot about that and then i
would be worried that 'she might be offended'
but it was in her fucking EMAIL so i was just being smart.
C'mon.
doesn't matter.... I haven't read anywhere near the large portion of this thread, nor the emails in question.... but when she says she's freaked out by the things you are doing or saying, that's enough for me. The bottom line is you creeped her out.... and you KEPT on doing it. And that's just not cool at all. It's not funny.... it's not *being smart*, it's not any of those things. I don't know what you were thinking when you began this, but I'm guessing it didn't turn out exactly the way you had envisioned did it?
Use your head man... if a chick tells you she's weirded out by the shit you're doing... she most likely means it.
Originally posted by mrthumbs Ok.. but why didnt you just call me to sort out what the fuck
was going on?
I asked you three times in consecutive emails each more expressive than the last
Originally posted by mrthumbs I never said anything bad or negative about you..
Even my doubts about you being real where/are
overshadowed by the fact you're an entertaining
personality that seemed smart and in for a joke.
I fucking told you that in ALL the emails.
I never once accused you of slander or saying anything bad about me.
Originally posted by mrthumbs If you REALLY feel the way about this as you described
then obviously there is no need to apologize, i should.
There's something oddly cathartic about argument. And something impressive about one that went on so long, and actually got resolved. Normally, after a certain point, nobody will budge. For the most part, I think that didn't happen here.
Thumbs-- I think it was creepy... but you seem to understand it a lot better now, and that's what matters to this co-combattant. ;)
And THAT gives you a correct opinion and you judge me with it?
like I thought I already said.... this wasn't about opinions or judgements.... this was about you buggin' Cheshire with this game. I don't care what evidence you have, how many testimonials to your true goodness you come up with, or if God himself comes down and makes you his new adopted Son.... if you're making a problem for Cheshire, you're making one with me too. That's my point.
Originally posted by Cheshire And I think everyone knows my handle is cheshire, and my nickname is Kat ~ which was blocked out with *** in the full emails mrthumbs felt necessary to publish on his behalf.
As I said earlier I was not comfortable with disclosing a certain email as I live to be humble and find talking about myself as a form of serious self-publicity to dishonorable. I was embarassed to read what I had written to mrthumbs in explanation to how I had become recognized on this board. That fact remains that seven months ago a person who posts here made a flattering gesture that has turned into something dear to my heart. Maybe my explaination of that in my emails expresses my joy of how people on this board are so sweet to me.
Many have shown their true colors to me today ~ and I thank those who understood why I did this.
pathfinder - I'm sorry to you for things I've said.
I take it you are apologizing to me, and if that is the case apology accepted, but just to acknowledge the apology. I don't feel that you owe me an apology as I don't take much of the flaming on this board with any seriousness and I hope that you haven't taken much of any flaming I have done with any seriousness.
Originally posted by Pathfinder I take it you are apologizing to me, and if that is the case apology accepted, but just to acknowledge the apology. I don't feel that you owe me an apology as I don't take much of the flaming on this board with any seriousness and I hope that you haven't taken much of any flaming I have done with any seriousness.
I don't take any of it seriously, because it doesn't carry into my outside life and personal safety like this situation did.
mrthumbs has emailed me a personal apology he does not wish posted on the board.
Originally posted by Cheshire
I don't take any of it seriously, because it doesn't carry into my outside life and personal safety like this situation did.
mrthumbs has emailed me a personal apology he does not wish posted on the board.
Originally posted by Cheshire
Only Amp can call me Ches because I respect him, and I am ready to accept your apology if you understand what you are apologizing for.
I do NOT apologize for 'what i did' because there is NOTHING
to apologize for concerning that.
I do apologize however for providing you information (or not making information clear timely) that you misunderstood in the most extreme way.
however.. if the majority still things i went out of line
and i should be apologizing for something else:
tell me.. and i'll leave GFY.
Okok.. thanks everybody for participating with this thread.
Originally posted by mrthumbs I do NOT apologize for 'what i did' because there is NOTHING
to apologize for concerning that.
I do apologize however for providing you information (or not making information clear timely) that you misunderstood in the most extreme way.
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Just want you to know i'm actually i nice guy and saying this really DOES
make me a stalker..i was REALLY just joking.. and if i actually
DID scare you i privatly apologize..
However.. i think it was all just Boneprone Propaganda eh... i believe
in conspiracy.. :-)
hehehehe..... the violator becomes the violated.... no mercy...
Originally posted by Cheshire mrthumbs has emailed me a personal apology he does not wish posted on the board.
Originally posted by Cheshire I am SO f*cking DONE with this LOOOOOSER
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Just want you to know i'm actually i nice guy and saying this really DOES
make me a stalker..i was REALLY just joking.. and if i actually
DID scare you i privatly apologize..
However.. i think it was all just Boneprone Propaganda eh... i believe
in conspiracy.. :-)
Jesus, this thread got pretty damn huge since i last checked, and quite frankly i'm too lazy to read everything i've missed. But i did have a look at some stuff, the email header stuff in particular.
It seems that mrthumbs wasn't actually snooping around or anything, but that's not the issue here. Cheshire was obviously upset at the fact that mrthumbs knew her first name, and she had no idea why.
Now, if he had of just said "it's in your email header, here, look"
Problem solved.
But, he didn't. Instead, he makes vague statements via email and in this very thread. And they were indeed creepy! It seemed very much intentional also.
MrThumbs, if you had have been straight up with Cheshire in the first place, instead of acting like an ass, this whole thing wouldn't have been blown out of proportion.
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MrThumbs, if you had have been straight up with Cheshire in the first place, instead of acting like an ass, this whole thing wouldn't have been blown out of proportion. [/B]
We wrote a few emails (this was in a matter of 15 to 25 minutes)
with 5-10 minute delays in between.
10 minutes later she does a GFY post..
So in order to do that i must have had the opportunity to.
I'm not gonna kiss ass instantly when i see she did
a post on GFY.. although i perhaps better should have done that.
I am sure it will go on, but I guess the important part was over a while ago... I still think Thumbs is creepy and can't tell (or at least admit) when he does something wrong. However, Cheshire knows he doesn't have all sorts of info, and can rest easier. I guess that's what matters.
Explaining to one moron what is scary about him isn't really worth our time. I am sorry you went through something so scary Cheshire. I hope the worry has settled down.
Originally posted by gothweb I am sure it will go on, but I guess the important part was over a while ago... I still think Thumbs is creepy and can't tell (or at least admit) when he does something wrong. However, Cheshire knows he doesn't have all sorts of info, and can rest easier. I guess that's what matters.
Explaining to one moron what is scary about him isn't really worth our time. I am sorry you went through something so scary Cheshire. I hope the worry has settled down.
Im getting a little pissed.. (havent been in a while)
Let me get this into your Gothic little brain:
I ONLY HAD HER FIRST NAME WHICH WAS PRINTED
IN THE EMAIL SHE SEND ME!
THAT ALL.
No phonenumbers, last names, sex change data, family names
JUST HER FUCKING FIRSTNAME SHE SEND ME HERSELF
And when she said "my name is Kat" and i say "isnt it *****?"
because that's PRINTED in the email im all of the sudden a stalker and a creepy man.
Read my above post considering the TIME FRAME this happened
in.. that explains my lack of clearing things up timely and the
suspicious environment.
Yeah. You're right. (sigh) I freaked out. What can I say? This is something very close to my heart, since my girlfriend is the star of an adult site, and we both worry about a "fan" tracking her down. When I saw this thread, it was clear that Thumbs just wasn't getting what he was doing wrong.
But, as I say, you're right. I guess I didn't need to get quite that involved. More a matter of my inability to leave an argument alone, if I think someone is dead wrong, than it is about my whineyness. My whineyness is another issue that I am sure you will witness later. ;)
Judging by the subsequent posts by mrthumbs since my first post here, I obviously need to re-post what I origninally said, as he obviously didn't see or fully understand what I told him.....
Mrdumbs --- Let me explain something..... The feeling that someone is *watching* you, that you've been somehow violated in the slightest, is a very serious (and scary, sickening) feeling. In this day and age of stalkers finding, raping, and killing their victims in all sorts of horrific manners, your "happy-go-dumbass" mindless humor has no place. There is a lesson for you here mrthumbs.
<b>Lesson:</b> When someone says they are concerned and possibly feeling a bit threatened and fearful of you, don't keep yanking their chain like a dipshit. Try giving your wanker head a shake and being real and honest with them and get the shit straightened out.
If you had've done this in the first page of this thread, there wouldn't now be a few hundred webmasters out there thinking you are a creepy retard. Tell me, why was it so hard to just open up and answer Cheshire's questions without her having to ask them 10 times? I've certainly bestowed the title of dipshit to others for much less. I recommend you be a man and apologize to Cheshire, and then I'm sure she will do likewise for saying some things that she said, and all should be well. Unless you really are stalking her. Bad mistake if you are.
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