A Big Fuck You To Anyone Who Voted For Bush!!!

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  • BFT3K
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2005
    • 10764

    #101
    Sometimes, when I order a sandwich with "light mayo" they just put on less regular mayo, so I guess that's okay.

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    • Paul Markham
      Too old to care
      • Jun 2001
      • 52942

      #102
      Originally posted by deejne
      Fuck Bush
      No way. The guy fucked us.

      Think along these lines. While most others have suffered Bush will come out of this a lot richer than he went in. The trillions of dollars still exist, they were spent. Have the profits of the oil companies suffered in the last 7 years?

      Follow the money trail.

      The US elections are run by big business. A bit over the top but think about it. Politicians don't get elected if they're the best man for the job. They get elected if they have the most money to campaign. Good people have lost because of lack of funding.

      So did Bush's backers also lose money?

      Or did they fuck us as well?



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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #103
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7283512.stm

        Because he would have to admit he fucked up big time.



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        • EonBlue
          Apocalypse
          • May 2007
          • 3043

          #104
          Originally posted by GITZINGER
          I love it!! throw out opinions, and then tell people to prove it wrong.

          right out of the neo-con handbook!

          Oy, some people are dense!

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          • baddog
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 107089

            #105
            Originally posted by tony404
            I know scoreman went to law school, what law school did D and baddog go to? Im curious.
            I am sorry, but what difference does it make if he went to law school or not? I can get you 100 lawyers and they are going to have 100 differing opinions and probably a 50/50 split on whether or not a conservative court is better or not.

            I worked in law for several years, and the fact of the matter is that when you work under the type of supervision I was (mentored) you do not need to go to law school to become a lawyer.

            So, if it makes that much difference to you, I guess the question comes down to, did he graduate? How many trials has he done?

            I have done more than most attorneys ever will. All the way to a successful overturning of a lower court's verdict at the Appellate level.

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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089

              #106
              Originally posted by dig420
              If you want to split hairs to that extreme, I will cede to you that conservative judges and conservative legislators are two very different things,
              Then why are you arguing against conservative judges? I am not speaking Legislative or Executive, but solely Judicial.

              You fear the current conservative judges? Why? What ruling did they make that offended you?

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              • D
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2006
                • 7412

                #107
                Originally posted by dig420
                If you want to split hairs to that extreme, I will cede to you that conservative judges and conservative legislators are two very different things, but imho the current crop of conservative judges are very different from what you've seen before, and they are hand picked not on the basis of their legal background and the respect they've earned from their peers, but on their likely willingness to make the rulings that the neo-conservative congressional and executive branch want them to make.
                I don't understand why you think differentiating between legislators and judges is "splitting hairs." They're different entities entirely... and all of the posts of mine you directly quoted were solely in relation to the judiciary. I believe the point that baddog and I were agreeing on before you jumped in was in regards to _Judges_ and only _Judges_.

                I can easily agree with you in that conservative legislators leave quite a bit to be desired as of late... I've communicated with my representatives/senators no less than 10 times so far in 2008 - and I think every single time's been the result of an issue I've had with the conservative congress or that nitwit in the White House... I'm also a card-carrying member of both the ACLU and Amnesty International... so I _feel_ those wrongs... but we weren't talking about congress when you decided to chime in in opposition to what we were saying.

                Again, we were discussing Judges, and only Judges.

                Originally posted by dig420
                You seem to believe that the whole issue of conservative v liberal judges hinges on who wants to allow you grow weed in your back yard.
                You misunderstand me, then. I was only using it as an example (of at least a couple) of conservative judges upholding the vales set forth in the Bill of Rights. I only brought it up again in response to you bringing it up.

                Originally posted by dig420
                If conservative judges have to allow you to grow weed to sell to your neighbor in order to set the precedent that states can do anything they want regardless of federal law, they will do so. Then they will happily allow states to torture you to near death and shitcan you in a state prison for 50 years without trial, and they'll 'disappear' your wife and kids for complaining about it publicly.
                I disagree. I'm rather sure they'd intervene as the 5th, 6th and 8th amendments would also apply to my rights at the state level... and as they have many times in the past (Miranda vs. Arizona, for example - which also had "liberal" dissent).

                Originally posted by dig420
                Actually, [the 10th amendment is] VERY confusing, and one of the biggest bones of contention among Justices and legislators for a very long time now

                ...
                I strongly believe that it's only confusing because we allow our government to make it so.

                The words that were used in the U.S. Constitution are all simple and precise. It's taken a whole fleet of power-seeking politicians and the like 200 years to contort it's meaning into the precedents we have in front of us today... you quoted it yourself - a man growing food on his own property, to feed his own family, affects interstate commerce. how fucking bogus is that?

                "The Congress shall have power... To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes..."

                Those are the words that give the Federal Government power to stop me from growing cucumbers in my own yard? Huh?? Where???

                But that's what they claim. Again, how bogus is that?

                A fifth grader could understand what that means. We chose to allow complication of it so that our Federal Government can vie for more power than it's constitutionally entitled to.

                And, more than any force in our history, it's been our conservative judges that have been holding that power back.

                I'd hope that someone with a degree in Political Science could agree with me there... but even if not, (getting back on subject) I'm sure we can at least agree that Bush will go down as one of the worst Presidents to date.
                Last edited by D; 03-08-2008, 12:30 AM.
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                • nico-t
                  emperor of my world
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 29901

                  #108
                  Originally posted by baddog
                  I can only presume that you are not familiar with nico-t. IMHO, he is nothing but a troll and therefore is not worth the effort to respond to beyond reminding him that he is an idiot.

                  I believe if you re-read his post you will see what an idiotic statement it was.

                  Saying "it can't get worse" is an open invitation to fate showing you it can.
                  yeaah rrright....

                  bush admin: the steepest trend in the graph from 1940:

                  bush admin: whole 8 year period the US dollar is dropping to rock bottom:


                  must all be coincidence.

                  And to the one saying every politician is a crook, yes. But as you can see in the statistics, some are bigger crooks than others.

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                  • IllTestYourGirls
                    Ah My Balls
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 14311

                    #109
                    nico-t you are making good points. However a lot of the blame for those graphs is the fact that the US dollar is fiat. Not that Bush helped any. If you look at the debt graph you will see the incline started when the US went off a gold standard, 1971.

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                    • Hoobie
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 27

                      #110
                      USA... You fucked up good.

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                      • notoldschool
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 5687

                        #111
                        Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                        nico-t you are making good points. However a lot of the blame for those graphs is the fact that the US dollar is fiat. Not that Bush helped any. If you look at the debt graph you will see the incline started when the US went off a gold standard, 1971.
                        yep, but it would be crazy to go back to supplying our own money. Go China 2008!
                        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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                        • baddog
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 107089

                          #112
                          Originally posted by nico-t
                          yeaah rrright....

                          bush admin: the steepest trend in the graph from 1940:

                          bush admin: whole 8 year period the US dollar is dropping to rock bottom:


                          must all be coincidence.

                          And to the one saying every politician is a crook, yes. But as you can see in the statistics, some are bigger crooks than others.
                          Crooks? So, are you suggesting that Bush is somehow profiting from the National Debt or from the exchange rate of the dollar?

                          Did he invest in Euros or something?

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                          • notoldschool
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 5687

                            #113
                            Originally posted by baddog
                            Crooks? So, are you suggesting that Bush is somehow profiting from the National Debt or from the exchange rate of the dollar?

                            Did he invest in Euros or something?
                            You think all the Bush assets are in US Dollar? I though you were smarter than that. and the awnser to your question is yes, for sure.
                            No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                            -- Learned Hand

                            http://www.bjpenn.com

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                            • Pleasurepays
                              BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 11913

                              #114
                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                              http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7283512.stm

                              Because he would have to admit he fucked up big time.
                              or it could be that your just an idiot and have no idea what the definition of "economic recession" is as its used in the US in economics.

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                              • nico-t
                                emperor of my world
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 29901

                                #115
                                Originally posted by baddog
                                Crooks? So, are you suggesting that Bush is somehow profiting from the National Debt or from the exchange rate of the dollar?

                                Did he invest in Euros or something?
                                oh come on. Politicians are only in it for the money, they dont give a shit about ' the people'. Every action they make is for the benefit of their own pockets. Does Enron ring a bell? Haliburton? Do you think anyone in the Bush admin is losing even 1 night of sleep of all the corpes out of iraq being flewn in every single day?

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                                • GITZINGER
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2006
                                  • 929

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  Crooks? So, are you suggesting that Bush is somehow profiting from the National Debt or from the exchange rate of the dollar?

                                  Did he invest in Euros or something?
                                  c'mon Lloyd, you're smarter than that, don't pretend to be that dumb.
                                  Your momma was a ho!!!

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                                  • IllTestYourGirls
                                    Ah My Balls
                                    • Feb 2007
                                    • 14311

                                    #117
                                    He invested his money in hard assets

                                    Once you get so much money it becomes less about money and more about power.

                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    Crooks? So, are you suggesting that Bush is somehow profiting from the National Debt or from the exchange rate of the dollar?

                                    Did he invest in Euros or something?

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