A Thought/Suggestion For Processors (CCBill, Epoch, etc.)

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  • BFT3K
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2005
    • 10764
    #1

    A Thought/Suggestion For Processors (CCBill, Epoch, etc.)

    The owner of Clips4Sale often spends some of his profits on advertising C4S and the stores within. This helps drive traffic to C4S which benefits store owners AS WELL AS the owner of C4S.

    Maybe it's time for 3rd party processors to invest in traffic building methods as well, as it would help all concerned.

    Another example of a way to help clients, would be to offer something like a processor owned blog network, like thumblogger was for AFF, where CCBill and Cave Creek (for example) offer their clients free blogs to promote their sites, which all bill exclusively through CCBill.

    Or, they just offer a comprehensive directory or review site of some sort, which notifies surfers of site updates, or deals, or whatever, and they pay to get the word out.

    Maybe I'm not communicating this idea perfectly, but in a nutshell, the idea would be that processors who ALSO stand to benefit from more site joins, pony up a few pennies to help the collective cause.

    What say you?
    Last edited by BFT3K; 08-31-2013, 11:21 AM.
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    • Sly
      Let's do some business!
      • Sep 2004
      • 31375
      #2
      I would rather they spend their money on creating a better processing platform nonstop.
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        • geedub
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2005
          • 3489
          #3
          Comparing a clip store engine to third party processors is like apples to oranges. Like Sly says, they should be spending their money on creating a better processing platform, which epoch at least seems to do.
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            • BFT3K
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2005
              • 10764
              #4
              Originally posted by geedub
              Comparing a clip store engine to third party processors is like apples to oranges. Like Sly says, they should be spending their money on creating a better processing platform, which epoch at least seems to do.
              I don't see it that way.

              Clips4Sale is a giant hub of stores (sites) that sell clips, and when a clip is sold, C4S and the store owner both benefit.

              CCBill is a processor for a number of sites that sell joins, and when a join is sold, CCBill and the site owner both benefit.

              Not apples to oranges to me.. pretty much the same thing as far as I'm concerned.

              And, as far as they using all of their money to work on back-end technologies, instead of promoting sales, that does not make any sense to me either, as long as my join pages are working.

              Everything else is just like inside baseball... it's not nearly as important as money invested to make more sales.
              Last edited by BFT3K; 08-31-2013, 11:37 AM.

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                • geedub
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 3489
                  #5
                  If you think your credit card processor should focus on getting you traffic versus processing your customer's credit card data.. I really don't know what to say. Does your hosting company help with your graphic design?
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                    • BFT3K
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 10764
                      #6
                      Originally posted by geedub
                      If you think your credit card processor should focus on getting you traffic versus processing your customer's credit card data.. I really don't know what to say. Does your hosting company help with your graphic design?
                      Processing companies have been successfully charging credit cards for over 15 years. Perhaps it's time to expand their services to help people make money and get more joins now.

                      The wheel has been round since its inception.
                      Last edited by BFT3K; 08-31-2013, 11:45 AM.

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                        • geedub
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 3489
                          #7
                          Originally posted by BFT3K
                          Processing companies have been successfully charging credit cards for over 15 years. Perhaps it's time to expand their services to help people make money and get more joins now.

                          The wheel has been round since its inception.
                          The good ones help by improving their service they specialize in... You need to help yourself if you want your products to sell better.
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                            • BFT3K
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 10764
                              #8
                              Free content will diminish the value of what we are selling.

                              Industry Reply: Adapt or die.

                              Tube sites will kill off 90% of this industry.

                              Industry Reply: That's your own fault. Thieves should be rewarded.

                              Processors should help people (including themselves) promote sites and make more money..

                              Industry Reply: That's not their job.

                              What a shortsighted, idiotic, fucking self-destructive industry this is... run by total fools.

                              Sad.

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                                • fitzmulti
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                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 14861
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by BFT3K
                                  Processing companies have been successfully charging credit cards for over 15 years. Perhaps it's time to expand their services to help people make money and get more joins now.

                                  The wheel has been round since its inception.
                                  So...how would say, CCBILL, "fairly" decide who to "help" get their traffic?
                                  A smaller program like mine...or one that sells like mad already?

                                  Would they join various affiliate programs and "double dip"?

                                  I'd just as soon let them stay a processor only...


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                                    • bean-aid
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jun 2011
                                      • 16493
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by BFT3K
                                      Processing companies have been successfully charging credit cards for over 15 years. Perhaps it's time to expand their services to help people make money and get more joins now.

                                      The wheel has been round since its inception.
                                      I absolutely agree. 15% Is a shitload and deserves more value. I pay 2.9% for mainstream and I do not expect any more then to process the money and put into my bank. For 15% should include much more then whatv is currently offered.

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                                        • epitome
                                          So Fucking Lame
                                          • Jun 2009
                                          • 12156
                                          #11
                                          They should start a babysitting service too so that site owners that are parents can focus on their business more.

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                                            • epitome
                                              So Fucking Lame
                                              • Jun 2009
                                              • 12156
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by beaner
                                              I absolutely agree. 15% Is a shitload and deserves more value. I pay 2.9% for mainstream and I do not expect any more then to process the money and put into my bank. For 15% should include much more then whatv is currently offered.
                                              Many companies do not pay 15%. They're in the position to negotiate. If you don't like 15% work harder to put yourself in the same position. If you'd rather not do that, find or build your own solution.

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                                                • geedub
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                  • 3489
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by epitome
                                                  They should start a babysitting service too so that site owners that are parents can focus on their business more.
                                                  That would be very thoughtful of them.
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                                                    • BFT3K
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                      • 10764
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by fitzmulti
                                                      So...how would say, CCBILL, "fairly" decide who to "help" get their traffic?
                                                      A smaller program like mine...or one that sells like mad already?

                                                      Would they join various affiliate programs and "double dip"?

                                                      I'd just as soon let them stay a processor only...
                                                      There are plenty of ways to fairly assist their clients. A free blog service along the lines of what thumblogger used to be, could be a very effective first step.

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                                                        • bean-aid
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Jun 2011
                                                          • 16493
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by epitome
                                                          Many companies do not pay 15%. They're in the position to negotiate. If you don't like 15% work harder to put yourself in the same position. If you'd rather not do that, find or build your own solution.
                                                          Majority pay around 15%.

                                                          I pay 5.5% for adult. That is not the point though. And good idea, I am working on something.

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