If you ever wanted to understand what MMA is about...

nice link. Thanks.

also check out Fight Science - The Science Behind Mixed Martial Arts if you haven't seen it yet. Very interesting video elaborating on punches and techniques and how they damage the body...

anthony knows his shit about mma. im need of some serious dieting right now. only problem is, im the pickiest fucking eater ever!!!!

There is a documentary out called "Choke" it's pretty old and follows Rickson Gracie's training about a month before his Pride fight, think it's Pride 2. This was back when you didn't get off easy and only have one fight. It was elimination style, I think he fights 4 times. Submitting them all with a Rear Naked Choke (hence the name of the documentary "Choke") I have it on VHS, show's you how long it's been around. He has something like 300 plus fights and zero loses. He is the badest man to ever walk the earth. Now he lives in Brazil, Surfing, training and bangin ho's! Here's a piece of the documentary (excuse the dots, dont have over 30 posts yet)

www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=wH31NDIlFIM&feature=related

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Choke is pretty good, but you never really get to understand the dieting, the workouts, what it takes to be a new fighter. Rickson is one of the best ever Brazillian Jiu Jitsu fighters to have lived, but the common man cannot fully connect to him.

MMA has come a long way since PRIDE 1 and 2. MMA Fighters are complete, standup, wrestling, and submission. Not so back then. Sakuraba went through 3 Gracies, and he was a Pro Wrestler before MMA fighter.

The nice part about "Choke" is that you get to see Rockson (Rickson's son), training and being a part of Rickson's life. Rockson was on his way becoming the family champion after his father. Unfortunately Rockson died in a motorcycle accident. Rickson has not fought since then.

You have some incorrect information.

Rickson Gracie has a purported 400 wins and zero losses. That record is incorrect, and no one really knows if he counts sparring as wins. Rickson's actual MMA record is 11 wins, 0 losses.

Baddest man on the planet, there is a line of fighters that would get that honor before Rickson. Starting with a Russian named Fedor.

As for banging hoes, show some respect. Rickson Gracie is a married man.

Rickson is one of my hero's and I have the utmost respect for him. Henry Aikens, one of his black belts who teaches at his academy is a good friend. Did anyone see him on Fight Quest? Interesting show. And there are plenty of good fighters out there. Just like baseball or basket ball everyone has their favorites. Rickson happens to be one of mine, along with BJ Penn. They are very technical fighters, I dig that.

That is a cool show. Thanks for the link. That site rocks too. they have some other things I want to check out.

Rickson lives in LA, and I don't think Fedor is a better fighter pound for pound. Rickson did amazing things and his bjj is second to none.

fyi Rickson has another son, Krone, who is a badass and who you'll be seeing a lot of very soon.

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There is not disrespect here, was just being funny. Rickson is one of my hero's not someone I slam. I trained at his academy for 2 years. He's one of my hero's. And glad you liked the link.

i like the part when they are on the ground hugging

good ......

Fedor has fought more current, and more dangerous opponents. Inasmuch as Rickson went through the competition back in the early 2000's, last 90's, he has never dealt with a fighter that has the total game.

Look what happened to Royce when he fought Matt Hughes. It's a case of beign good in one discipline of MMA, against a well rounded MMA fighter. All the respect in the world for him, but he's been left behind. Sakuraba wanted him for years, and we all know what Sakuraba did to 3 Gracies.


Kron is definately making waves. Undefeated if I remember my info right, as of 2005 anyways which was the last time I kept stats on him.

Kim Couture just had a smoker Muay Thai match, did you get any of that?

Ant,

Love the Van Buren. Thanks for the rec.

What a bunch of pussy ass wannabe tough guys...

The best MMA documentary ever made is Brain Damage Concussion.

ADG

Anytime Bro

If you come across any Gabriel and Dresden, grab it. Especially with any with Jes Brieden signing.

Anthony no I didnt get it if I do and can get the permissions I will show it


just added Fight TV to the channels for you ,(see sig) it only shows old fights as its a experimental online channel and not a premium service but still it shows some great action

thread bookmarked.. good shit

Thanks Claire, I'll check it out.

i love mma girls - gina carano!

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I have seen shit none have you seen!! I got my Black from Rigan machado 6 years ago. I am good friends with Ricksons american Black belts. only 4 of them!! I grew up with BJJ as my religion!! I was friends with Rockson Gracie (Ricksons Gracie's son).

For me to be Rigan Machado Black belt and say Rickson Grace is the can get me into serious political problems.



But people who know me, know i will call it how i see it!!!

Rickson is the fucking best to ever grapple or fight!!! PERIOD!!!!


MMA 11-0 record? lol.. Keep in mind that was his Pride record. He fought in Brazil before the word mixed martial arts ever existed!! Because MMA didnt exist, his fights never happened?? His fights are real, he is the real deal!! His fight against ZULU was a war!! Over an hour!!! Before Rickson stopped ZULU, ZULU beat everybody in brazil!! ZULU lost 2 times to Rickson Gracie.



I saw him lay on his back and hold a conversation with other people in the room and Play with Royce Gracie. No hands, and not even looking at him. Was able to finish him at will!!!

I saw him line up 5 different world BJJ campions and tool all 5 one after the other as if they had no idea what was going on!!


He took on all commers!! He beat the best at his time. But he had the "fuck you pay me" mentality. which was the right mentality.


Rickson Gracie's time has passed, he has nothing to prove. And dont even think about comparing him to his brothers, cousins and nephews. It would be very disrespectful!!



As for Fador; he is good and the guy to beat right "now".


But if BJJ and mma is is your religion, Rickson Gracie is your maker!!


Who am I???? I have wrestled all of these guys in tounys and competitions, and behind closed doors. I speak from first hand experiences and observations!! I trained and have wrestled with all of the guys you look up to on tv. You need to be my level in BJJ to have any comprehension On the true skill level of Rickson Gracie.


And there will never be another Rickson Grace!!



No disrespect to anybody here. I really mean that! But if you want to slam my post ask your self, "how many people did i fight, wrestle or corner to make such factual "expert" claims?"

Valeu Professor, I can't argue with your post, you have insight that I don't. Rickson is a legend, unfortunately, as you said, his time has passed. I, like many would love to see him fight today's MMA fighter.

What do you think of Rolls?

Wow!! You know about Rolls?? He was the very best at his time! Even better than Rickson was!! But his life was cut short by a hang gliding accident so we never really got a fair shot at seeing his lifes accomplishments. sad..


Carlos Gracie Jr and Rigan Rachado Gave me the stories and insight on Rolls Gracie. I learned it from family. I saw rare Video footage of the guy.


You do know about BJJ, because Black belts that got them closest from the original source (because when you train day in and day out with Gracie family, the stories come out), or very serious BJJ fans that research BJJ history, know about Rolls Gracie.


Good stuff, much respect dude!!

All I've heard about Rolls has been that he was the best. We can thank him for the cross training, and the mindset of modern BJJ, taking whats' useful, and integrating. The Americana, the Triangulo, all under Roll's and his teachings. Rolls was the first cross trainer in BJJ. I agree, he died too soon.

Watching this video, you can see the wrestling that Rolls integrated, with his training with Bob Anderson. The great thing about BJJ, is that the spirit hasn't died, guys like Eddie Bravo, Marcelo Garcia, De La Riva, they are still evolving BJJ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OLtK4VX8Fk

There are a few of us here who train and love BJJ. Dig420 got me involved, and we both trained at the Gracie Academy in Torrance. I think Dig is training with Jeff Glover now. I train at American Top Team, we are both blues. The Senator is a Purple, and I know we have a Brown Belt on here as well.

We have to meet Dave! I'd love to hear some of the stories you could tell.

ADG

what the fuck

Machete could own everyone in the MMA...but he doesn't want to:



Now, THAT is badass...

ADG

Wow!! I saw that video on VHS tape along with a shit load of others. I love Royce Gracie, but when Reron and Rener Took over teaching Duties, the leval at torrance went up big time!!

Were you there when torrence Grace challenged The Machado team? it was blue belts and purple belts only. Gracie rules. no time limits. Rorion beleved that machado students could not win if there were no time limit.

2 guys in each weight class only! Rorian had a professional video team there to capture the gracie team beating the Machado team!!

I was one of the coaches for team machado. Rico Rodriegues was a Brown and could not fight, but already won Abu Dabi. lol

We won 25 out of 27 weight classes!! Dean Lister was a purple and beat Reron Gracie for 1 of the victories. Rener beat one of my students for the Gracie victory.


After 2 of our guys quick tapped 2 Torrance guys, Rorian Gracie had the cameras turned off. lol It was the most vindicating thing i was ever a part of. Being a Machado fighter and living in redondo beach, we would hear day in and day out how our BJJ was not the real deal!!! 10 fucking years i would hear this!!! That day was better than sex!!!!!!! And Eddie bravo was a purple belt and beat his guy too.


Did you trained with Ryan Parker, the forever Purple belt!! I have known him since he was 14, training at torrance. He is now 28.. lol ahh memories.. lol. My close friend Mark Laimon left there when he was a blue belt. he is one of the top american instructors right now.. lol


And for american top team, those guys are good!! Good fighters good instructors. they Rep. USA very well.

And Jeff Glover is the real deal. cool guy cool attitude! He taped a Brazilian Black belt training partner of mine with the baddest foot lock!! GO USA!!! I always cheer American!!! No mater what!!! Unless Its Rigan Machado.. You will learn this in time!! I never turn my back on Brazilians!! they will fuck you over without a thought!!! Seen it time in and time out!! lol


I have Rigan Machado coming to my house for the fights this Sat. with a couple of Big MMA names. We are close, i am one of his 1st Black Belts and would always put my teaching time in when he traveled. It was always free!!

ICQ me any time! Rigans Cousin teaches in FL. and i have productions out there.



Wait till You see my XXX MMA team!! John Stong, Manwell Farara, Rick Shamless, Craven Moorehead, Derick Pierce and a couple of other directors and photographers.

You use a lot of exclamation points Dave.. you're a Machado BB? That's a hell of an accomplishment. What's your real name, icq it to me 2417874, I'm in Vegas too.

I trained at the academy for several years, we had Machado guys coming over all the time, I don't recall ever seeing any bad blood or smack talk among the students. I don't remember Rorion ever talking bad about the Machados either, they're practically brothers. The only school I've ever had a bad experience at was Cobra Kai, with Laimon. As soon as he found out I was from the Academy he was talking shit nonstop until I finally asked him to take it up with Ryron instead of me. I'm just a blue belt, it's got nothing to do with me lol...

Ant, as far as Fedor v. Rickson, we'll never know because Rickson is just too old at this point to take on the guys in their prime now. I think current Fedor would have taken Rickson then, but if Rickson would have come up a little later he would have had all the skills Fedor has and then some imho. Rickson is AMAZING on the ground. I've never heard of him getting tapped out. NEVER. Not in the ring, not in his school, not anywhere. I've heard that he toys with everyone, that his bjj is on a whole other level. He's really the only Gracie that is a true natural athlete and he was and is pugnacious as hell.

Re Royce v. Hughes, come on man... that wasn't Royce. I can strike better than that and I don't even train striking. I don't know what the hell happened in there but Royce looked HORRIBLE... that's not to say that he would ever have beaten Hughes but goddam, that was embarassing. I was in the Gracie skybox with all the brothers and it was real quiet in there.

Kron isn't undefeated, I know Bill the Grill Cooper beat him once, and then Kron returned the favor, can't remember if it was gi or no gi. I think Bill is a no gi monster so that's probably how he got his win.

Glover went to Big Bear to train with Joe Stevenson for his fight with BJ, much good it did him. He's putting on 20 lbs so he can start fighting himself since there is no 130 lb division and I haven't rolled with him since he went to fight camp. Right now I'm training at Legion BJJ, which is the old LV Combat Club after Sergio Pena left to start his own school, and I'm slowly getting my conditioning back after being out for so long. It feels good.

oh yeah, re the academy...

Rorion is a traditionalist to the bone, he refuses to teach a lot of the newer bjj stuff. In fact he refuses to teach any of it, as he thinks that Helio knew everything that would ever need to be known about bjj. Ryron and Rener can make it work against almost anyone though, especially Ryron. He's a fucking bjj monster, I've never heard of him getting tapped as a black belt. imho, not teaching the new stuff - the de la riva guard etc - is a serious hindrance to Gracie students who want to compete. My game improved by leaps and bounds when I started training with Glover and at combat club, those guys all teach a MUCH more active and aggressive style than the Academy. The reasoning at the Academy is that the new stuff will get you punched in the face if you try it on the street. Take that for what it's worth.

Rorion never said anything bad about us and our teem, it would be all of the brain washed students. Keep in mind this is 8 years ago and longer. When the only schools were Torrance, redondo, Santa Monica, salt lake and New York. That was all of the BJJ schools for the whole US back then..

And for Reron getting tapped, it never happened. He lost to dean lister on a complicated point system developed by the Gracies. Not a bad system, just a point system that gives a longer time limit or no time limit, depending on how the guys are fighting. That fight was about an hour and 20 minutes. A ver young Reron and very good and strong Dean lister.


Reron and Renor are 2 of the best guys in gi and no gi jui-jitsu. I know both well and have the utmost respect for what they accomplished with there fight team and school.

And for Mark Laimon, he isn't a bad guy, he just has serious issues and beef with Rorian Gracie. And he is a vocal individual. I was there when he and Eathan Millious left torrance and were training at boxing works. Both guys were very let down with what transpired (long story)... That experience drove Mark Laimon to be the best! He got his name and reputation by challenging all Brazilian Brown belts week after week. He would challenge all and destroy all. Because back then there was no Brazilian that would promote him. In short he is a good guy, but a kid when it comes to grudges. I am sorry that you got the bad end of something that u didn't do to him.


Now its Jui-Jitsu against everybody. And americans Jui-Jitsu on the higher level will always side up with each other.


Me, i'm easy going and generally never talk about fighting. I got 2 stripes on my Black and i never put them on. Why??? make me tougher. lol Any body who knows, knows 1 strip means 3 years black. Thats it.. I train for fun and i pick and choose who i train with. I cant just walk into a school and say "lets roll" especially when the instructor is a purple or a watered down black. It turns into me teaching which i love to do and thats after i rolled up the class of 30 5 times in a row. lol They want to see if im for real. lol. I cant blame them. How many americans have legit blacks? less than 100??



Its still fun, (except for being on crutches for the last 4 month because of knee surgery) but i make my money shooting content for a couple of companies including PORN.COM

Hahhahahahahahahhaha! Goddamn.

Man this isn't Ohio, there are world class black belts all over LA and LV. What school are you training at now?

RCJ MACHAD JUI-JITSU Redondo Beach Under Rigan Machado.

And i teach a bunch of friends in Northridge at a gym i built out of a 3 car garage. The House is 1.6. Full gym. Bags timers ropes u name it... But i live in Chatsworth Ca...

Anthony -Kim Couture just had a smoker Muay Thai match, did you get any of that?


here it is Anthony just for you. Kim Couture

As long as this thread is being bumped, justdavexxx is definitely for real - anyone thinking of pissing with him keep that in mind. He can break your arm in about 12 seconds, if he takes his time about it ;)

Just never saw a bb use that many exclamation points lol

Outside of a MMA/BJJ board, I've never seen a BB post at all.

JustDaveXXX is a pussycat.. BUT a pussycat I would not ever want to be on the bad side of since I know he could break a man in seconds flat... I thought I might stand a chance with him while he was on crutches tho as long as he did not get his hands on me...

OMG, this is one the best threads I have seen in a very long time I use my MMA skills on Steve PP and he taps out all the time.

Rener Gracie used to beat me with his legs alone, I had to train for over a year before he had to use his hands. A bb in BJJ isn't like a black belt in TKD or some nonsense, it's a serious thing for serious people that takes many years to achieve.

Lol.. Got Black at 10 years and have been training for almost 17 years. I get out of most altercations with a hand shake and a smile.. And the guys i train do the same..


Dig420 is right, it is very hard to get! When i used to teach seminars in BJJ, i would line a room up 30-60 people and submit one after the other and all of the school studs would be last. Studs would be 250lbs and up wrestlers. This would be in Oklahoma. Never a problem and i always expected it. EZ! lol.


This had to be done at every seminar. Why??? Because nobody will listen to what you have to say or teach unless you tap them out. People were paying back then about $100-$150 per person.


The most i have ever tapped out was at a Chuck Norris seminar. My instructors Rigan Machado, Jean-Jaq Machado, John Machado and we had 400 in vegas. 4 endless lines, 3 hours strait. Dont really know how many i tapped, people kept jumping lines. lol. Was an honor for me and a great time. How many people can say they Railed 400 Chuck Norris Black Belts..lol.. And Yes Chuck is a BB in BJJ, a legitimate one!!




It sounds prety much like bullshit, but when you see me or any other black belt do it, its impressive. But at that level its easy as pie.. I have done it to 30 blues and purples blind folded, one after the other. lol..


The blindfold thing is funny as shit. because the trick is, i know everybody is going for my back and once i put one hand on them it becomes a feel thing, second nature. I love BJJ and its still fun for me. I have 2 stripes on my black belt and have never bothered to put them on. Why? its already black..lol


My biggest Honer wasn't making UFC champions, but was helping Rigan Machado teach Danny Inosanto BJJ from white to Black. Guru Dan he is called. The only man in the world who was authorized by Bruce Lee to teach "JKD". That man wore white and trained 3 days a week, like clock work for 6 years before he got black. WOW! So much respect for him. I never submitted him in free training. you just dont submit a legend like that. He is 65 years old now and i still go down to Santa Monica 4 times a year to Wrestle with him. I still loose to him. lol



What am i doing here? right? lol. I got disillusioned with training pro mma fighters 6 years ago and decieded to kinda sell my soul and get into porn. I put my time in as i did in BJJ and got really good at photography and adult video direction. I shoot for pimp roll and and a few other companies. i also do pickup shoots for AMA JOE. I work a lot!!


I make way more money in porn than i could even imagine from training fighters or fighting pro. I still train and BJJ is fun again.


All of my buddies know i can fight but have not even the slightest idea what i really can do. and thats cool with me because i always hated that alfa male tough guy attitude!


I will Be in AZ for the show i would love to meet all of you guys.


And if i come off as a tough guy, im sorry. thats not me, im just giving out factual information that i know a bunch of you want to hear.

Fuck yeah! Thanks Dave!

For my first MMA fight, my coach (BJJ BB), was working on my ground game, giving me subs, making me look really good for everyone watching. After about 3 5 minute rounds, he said, okay we're done, but before we finish...

He double arm barred me, gogoplata, and knee barred me into tears, all within 30 seconds, one after another. It's a wake up call for sure. I'm biting at the bit to train with Marcelo Garcia, as he's joined ATT, at $250.00 an hour, though I heard it's worth every penny.

"I make way more money in porn than i could even imagine from training fighters or fighting pro"

yeah but it's just so fucking WEIRD to me to have a bb in this biz lol, and a well-known one at that! Most bb's I know are like BJJ monks, although I know a few who like to party too...

Ant, do you know who first came up with the gogolplata?? Look it up if you can find it

This thread rocks

Damn never would have guessed you were such a fucking bruiser Dave, you're such a nice, laid back guy in person

Most bb's are. They have nothing to prove to an average guy, but god help you if you get one on you, you're done. The only question is how bad does he want to hurt you.

No idea, I know Schemberi was the one who made it really popular. I'll look it up.

interesting thread!!...however, as awesome a BJJ bb is, its NOT the be-all-end-all of fighting - many bb's get owned in the cage by guys with no formal training in BJJ (i mean gi, belt system of training)

i think there's a certain mystique that BJJ bb's have to guys that don't train MMA, but for those that do train, its just another aspect of the fight game ;)