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  • V_RocKs
    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
    • Nov 2003
    • 32451

    #51
    Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
    Lightspeedcash has never bounced even one check in 9 years of payouts. We understand the meaning of "responsibility".
    Not everyone has a Shannon! haha

    I have never had a bounced check yet but I have had it where the funds were held because the company had bounced numerous checks with my bank in the past.

    I switched everything to wires, ACH and Epassporte and the only checks I get are CCBILL and XPAYS...

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    • StarkReality
      Confirmed User
      • May 2004
      • 4444

      #52
      Yours at least arrive and bounce...mine sometimes simply vanish, unfortunately this happens more often with certain sponsors. They always re-issue them fast, but it sucks anyway.

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      • Iron Fist
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2006
        • 23400

        #53
        i like waffles

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        • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
          So Fucking Banned
          • Sep 2002
          • 7515

          #54
          Why don't you use epassporte?

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          • V_RocKs
            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
            • Nov 2003
            • 32451

            #55
            This has turned into a test...

            #1 - Don't send a major affiliate a check and see what happens when he posts on GFY about it.
            #2 - Send the check knowing it will bounce and see what happens when he posts on GFY about it.

            Final Result: The same shit happens. Nothing really.

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            • SureFire
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 4398

              #56
              Originally posted by V_RocKs
              This has turned into a test...

              #1 - Don't send a major affiliate a check and see what happens when he posts on GFY about it.
              #2 - Send the check knowing it will bounce and see what happens when he posts on GFY about it.

              Final Result: The same shit happens. Nothing really.
              You forgot #3: your own subscription to a rev program shows a three month charge back and you know it because all your sign-ups left a long time ago...

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              • ProjectNaked
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2004
                • 4309

                #57
                Originally posted by boneprone
                Some of you scumb bags will probably stop paying me my rebills becasue you dont see any new traffic coming in.

                One of the only reasons Ive been tolerating the bounced checks is because of the rebills. IF it wernt for them Id have dropped you long time ago.

                But enough is enough. Rebills or no rebills, fucking annoying.
                I guess you missed the "Anal Hobbits Guide to Fucking Over Affiliates"

                SUCKS TO BE YOU!!!!!

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                • BVF
                  Black Vagina Finder
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 13975

                  #58
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                  • BVF
                    Black Vagina Finder
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 13975

                    #59
                    Oh and I've NEVER received a bad check and if I do, I'm naming them.

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                    • SomeCreep
                      :glugglug
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 26118

                      #60
                      Originally posted by boneprone
                      They know who they are. And I know tons of people promote them. They are popular programs. Im certain its not just my checks im getting that are bouncing.
                      I know who you're talking about. They sent me a bounced check also. Luckily, they're pretty easy to get in contact with.
                      Last edited by SomeCreep; 02-26-2008, 09:10 PM.

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                      • munki
                        Do Fun Shit.
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 13393

                        #61
                        Sucks dood... never fun dealing with that kind of bullschitt...

                        I'm sure those programs will sorely miss your traffic.

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                        • Xrated J
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 4347

                          #62
                          Originally posted by boneprone
                          Ive only bounced a check once ever in my life. Well twice. Once intentional.

                          Once was to BradShaw back in 2001. He pissed me off cause I had to buy content to replace a promo girl for amateur beaver. I couldnt use her for my theme on my site casue I promoted other programs. He was right but I was pissed and bounced the check to em.

                          I later made good and re-sent.
                          :
                          But other than that ive never bounced a check that related to my biz. Other than to him. I think he still has that check.
                          if you bounced a check to me, id frame it and put it on the wall in my office. now send me some of your traffic and ill make sure that never happens.

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                          • rowan
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 17393

                            #63
                            Bounced USD cheques are a real pain if you're not USA based since they take weeks to send bits of paper between banks in different countries. There is also currency conversion to consider, they debit your account for the USD equivalent on the day it BOUNCES rather than simply reversing the deposit amount.

                            Last time I had a bounced cheque from clickcash my bank lost it.

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                            • tiger
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 6986

                              #64
                              Only thing more annoying is when they won't admit it and try to blame your bank.

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                              • L-Pink
                                working on my tan
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 39151

                                #65
                                Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                Lightspeedcash has never bounced even one check in 9 years of payouts. We understand the meaning of "responsibility".

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                                • boneprone
                                  Hall Of Fame
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 34415

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Jet
                                  Why don't you use epassporte?

                                  I do.

                                  But I only have two sponsors send there. 100% of the money there seems to go right to my full tilt poker account.

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                                  • boneprone
                                    Hall Of Fame
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 34415

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by munki
                                    Sucks dood... never fun dealing with that kind of bullschitt...

                                    I'm sure those programs will sorely miss your traffic.
                                    Nah they wont. I dont send that much as I used to. They will be fine.

                                    ITs more of a hastle for me than anything. A disrespect to affilates on their part.

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                                    • After Shock Media
                                      It's coming look busy
                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 35299

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Jet
                                      Why don't you use epassporte?
                                      If a sponsor is can bounce a check can they not also pay you late or not pay you at all?

                                      Bouncing a check is illegal, period, end of story. Letting a sponsor just re-issue you a check is doing them a favor. Not having them paying you for any and all fee's you may have incurred (I have seen nasty chain reactions caused from 1 bounced check) is just giving them the privilege of fucking you twice.

                                      For those of us in Northern America checks are not an inconvenience. They come with payment stubs, legal protections, no extra costs associated with using them if they are legal, and lastly no need to figure out who is who in epassporte (username, company, if they paid, when they last paid, ect).

                                      Not to mention the following issues that bugged me. Keeping company incomes/accounting separate is more difficult with epassporte unless you want numerous epassporte accounts. Then lastly the time it takes to make it to the bank as I personally would hate to use an ATM (with fee's) all of the time to get your money out of epassporte and into your business accounts.

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                                      • Christina Muller
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2007
                                        • 923

                                        #69
                                        I totally agree After Shock Media....Bouncing a check is illegal, period, end of story

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                                        • moeloubani
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2007
                                          • 4235

                                          #70
                                          I wish I had the problem of sorting through 60 cheques for the bad ones

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                                          • BOSS1
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2005
                                            • 4331

                                            #71
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                                            • Bike
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2004
                                              • 1363

                                              #72
                                              It's even more fun if you get like 300 or so cheques a month. Missing signatures, wrong dates, bounced cheques, non sufficient funds etc. we've had it ALL

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                                              • PersianKitty
                                                Meow Media Inc.
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 7785

                                                #73
                                                It's been eons since I had a check bounce.

                                                I think over the years I've had less than 5 or 6 bounce.

                                                I get checks from about as money programs as you do in a month too.

                                                PK

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                                                • boneprone
                                                  Hall Of Fame
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 34415

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by PersianKitty
                                                  It's been eons since I had a check bounce.

                                                  I think over the years I've had less than 5 or 6 bounce.

                                                  I get checks from about as money programs as you do in a month too.

                                                  PK

                                                  Maybe I should promote the programs you do then. We should trade stories in private.

                                                  Bike, you too.

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                                                  • Platinum Dave
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                    • 2441

                                                    #75
                                                    Stop using Tiny Shit programs with no reputation and you won't get your checks bounced.

                                                    Guess that's why we payout 1 million a month -

                                                    Reputation is everything!


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                                                    • Klen
                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 32234

                                                      #76
                                                      Boneprone,if you want i can check your sites for traffic leak for free.I am good at that

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                                                      • BlackCrayon
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                        • 19634

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by bashbug
                                                        the worst is, it looks bad on you with your bank.
                                                        Especially when they want to hold your checks already since they come from the US and you're in canada.
                                                        you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                        • Roald
                                                          SecretFriends.com
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 27910

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Platinum Dave
                                                          Stop using Tiny Shit programs with no reputation and you won't get your checks bounced.

                                                          Guess that's why we payout 1 million a month -

                                                          Reputation is everything!
                                                          We have big programs who send bouncing checks too


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                                                          • boneprone
                                                            Hall Of Fame
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 34415

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Platinum Dave
                                                            Stop using Tiny Shit programs with no reputation and you won't get your checks bounced.

                                                            Guess that's why we payout 1 million a month -

                                                            Reputation is everything!
                                                            Some of the programs who have bounced arent Tiny.....

                                                            And they do have reputaions.

                                                            And they payout just as much im sure.

                                                            Thats why it's distrubing.

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                                                            Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
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                                                            Learn about it kids.

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                                                            • boneprone
                                                              Hall Of Fame
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 34415

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                              Boneprone,if you want i can check your sites for traffic leak for free.I am good at that

                                                              That would be nice.

                                                              How do you do it? And what do you mean by leaks? You sound like a good friend to have.

                                                              Hit me up sometime.

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                                                              Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
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                                                              • Anal Hobbit
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 2308

                                                                #81
                                                                Seems like an Anal Hobbit scam.

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                                                                • ProjectNaked
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                  • 4309

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Anal Hobbit
                                                                  Seems like an Anal Hobbit scam.
                                                                  you used the wrong log in douche

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                                                                  • signupdamnit
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2007
                                                                    • 6697

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                    This has turned into a test...

                                                                    #1 - Don't send a major affiliate a check and see what happens when he posts on GFY about it.
                                                                    #2 - Send the check knowing it will bounce and see what happens when he posts on GFY about it.

                                                                    Final Result: The same shit happens. Nothing really.
                                                                    In ten years I have had two bounced checks sent to me. One was handled quickly and was a mistake. The other was where the company simply vanished (a very old AVS which is no longer around).

                                                                    If someone were to be honest about the situation and admit to just not having the funds, I'd get quiet about it and allow them up to a month to remedy it. But the second someone seems to be hiding or lying to me about my payments and I am sure this is happening, I'll be right here naming names and posting conversations. I don't give a shit.

                                                                    You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                    • yuu.design
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                                      • 25308

                                                                      #84
                                                                      i never have a bounce check , but yes is pain in the ass !!!
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                                                                      • StarkReality
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                        • 4444

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Bike
                                                                        wrong dates
                                                                        Yep, that's a classic, it's fun to get a "void after 90 days" check dated back one year

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                                                                        • pocketkangaroo
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                          • 8452

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by Platinum Dave
                                                                          Stop using Tiny Shit programs with no reputation and you won't get your checks bounced.

                                                                          Guess that's why we payout 1 million a month -

                                                                          Reputation is everything!
                                                                          I hate to do this but we just had a check returned from you guys.

                                                                          I'm pretty sure it was an innocent error.

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                                                                          • boneprone
                                                                            Hall Of Fame
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 34415

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                            I hate to do this but we just had a check returned from you guys.

                                                                            I'm pretty sure it was an innocent error.
                                                                            WTF??

                                                                            Are you serious?

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                                                                            • »Rob Content«
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                              • 4348

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Platinum Dave
                                                                              Stop using Tiny Shit programs with no reputation and you won't get your checks bounced.

                                                                              Guess that's why we payout 1 million a month -

                                                                              Reputation is everything!
                                                                              And you just bounced a check to my friend.

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                                                                              • Christina Muller
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2007
                                                                                • 923

                                                                                #89
                                                                                pocketkangaroo/VG.Content good to see someone has got the ball rolling and is actually helping the industry shape up.

                                                                                Guess your both going to get contacted now and offered a deal to say that even though you both are independent of each other you both made a joke at the same time.

                                                                                For all you other guys get balls list the names Im only pushing this for the benefit of everyone ,we all need to start to work together and every step forward will help

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                                                                                • Christina Muller
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                                  • 923

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  QuaShe,We have big programs who send bouncing checks too

                                                                                  Why wouldnt you name them? would you rather see others suffer the same situation,this is why will76 is on a mission everyone blames tubes and are quick to kick shap and everyone else for other things but on the subject of fraud no one will name corps who have committed fraud (as even if its a mistake..most times not) its still fraud period.

                                                                                  I understand why he wants to start some sort of assocation for webmasters.

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                                                                                  • will76
                                                                                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 18037

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Christina Muller
                                                                                    QuaShe,We have big programs who send bouncing checks too

                                                                                    Why wouldnt you name them? would you rather see others suffer the same situation,this is why will76 is on a mission everyone blames tubes and are quick to kick shap and everyone else for other things but on the subject of fraud no one will name corps who have committed fraud (as even if its a mistake..most times not) its still fraud period.

                                                                                    I understand why he wants to start some sort of assocation for webmasters.
                                                                                    IMO (since I was named in the post) if a sponsor bounces a check, contacts you ASAP, wires you the money on their dime, and they pay any fees you received from your bank, then I don't think it is a big deal. If this happened multiple times by the same company then it should be something that others are made aware of. I think that would be a sure sign that the company is working off of fumes or either is as responsible with their banking as that of a 18 year old.

                                                                                    I wouldn't call it fraud, unless it could be proven that they intentially did it.
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                                                                                    • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                                      • 8452

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by Christina Muller
                                                                                      pocketkangaroo/VG.Content good to see someone has got the ball rolling and is actually helping the industry shape up.

                                                                                      Guess your both going to get contacted now and offered a deal to say that even though you both are independent of each other you both made a joke at the same time.

                                                                                      For all you other guys get balls list the names Im only pushing this for the benefit of everyone ,we all need to start to work together and every step forward will help
                                                                                      I wasn't trying to get any ball rolling. I'm 99% sure it was a clerical error on their part. We haven't promoted PB much before and I don't even think the check was for $100.

                                                                                      The only reason I mentioned it is because bounced checks are not a "small program" issue. They happen everywhere. The companies you need to watch out for are the ones that don't send checks at all. The times I've seen bounced checks, it's always been human error on the part of the program and fixed right away.

                                                                                      I wasn't trying to knock or call out anyone. I've just recently started setting up links to AdultRental.com, and they were real helpful in getting me some stuff I needed. I mentioned I thought it was funny.

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                                                                                      • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                                        • 8452

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by will76
                                                                                        IMO (since I was named in the post) if a sponsor bounces a check, contacts you ASAP, wires you the money on their dime, and they pay any fees you received from your bank, then I don't think it is a big deal. If this happened multiple times by the same company then it should be something that others are made aware of. I think that would be a sure sign that the company is working off of fumes or either is as responsible with their banking as that of a 18 year old.

                                                                                        I wouldn't call it fraud, unless it could be proven that they intentially did it.
                                                                                        I agree. If a company is going to fuck you over, they aren't going to send bad checks. They just won't send you a check at all.

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                                                                                        • Christina Muller
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                                          • 923

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Thanks Will76 but here is the quote:

                                                                                          QuaShe,We have big programs who send bouncing checks too

                                                                                          I assume from this that a lot of mistakes(if you want to call them that) are taking place.

                                                                                          Maybe the industry needs a good bank or accounts system made then to avoid this? .

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                                                                                          • Christina Muller
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Mar 2007
                                                                                            • 923

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            thanks pocketkangaroo...I wasn't trying to get any ball rolling. I'm 99% sure it was a clerical error on their part. We haven't promoted PB much before and I don't even think the check was for $100.

                                                                                            Sure no problem it was probably a clerical error or maybe a banking error or lets just say a error


                                                                                            pocketkangaroo....If a company is going to fuck you over, they aren't going to send bad checks. They just won't send you a check at all.


                                                                                            No it doesnt work like that,in most cases they send you a check then explain it was a error etc and issue you a new one this =they didnt have the money at the time of writing the check and needed time and now they are ok they can pay you, its not rocket science

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                                                                                            • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                                                              • 8452

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Christina Muller
                                                                                              No it doesnt work like that,in most cases they send you a check then explain it was a error etc and issue you a new one this =they didnt have the money at the time of writing the check and needed time and now they are ok they can pay you, its not rocket science
                                                                                              We receive checks from probably 75-100 programs in mainstream and adult. Anything over $5000 we have wired. I rarely ever get a bounced check, and never had one company not pay it in full shortly after.

                                                                                              Now I've had about 5-10 companies stop sending checks. Either they go out of business or just never answer emails again. I'm much more concerned about a company that doesn't send checks at all than one that sends bad ones.

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                                                                                              • Christina Muller
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Mar 2007
                                                                                                • 923

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Will76 quote: If this happened multiple times by the same company then it should be something that others are made aware of

                                                                                                thats actually my point if everyone names names and the sponsor states hey its a mistake then no problem, but how do affliates find out who the repeat offenders are without sharing info on boards such as gfy ? If everyone posted I have a bounced check Im sure it would give confidence to others who have had multiple problems to post thier experiences.

                                                                                                Sometimes you have to lead for others to follow.

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                                                                                                • High Class Grass
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                                                  • 103

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Platinum Dave was/is a very shady man. Back in the day (2001 something} I sent 4394 clicks from google adword to his program but NO SALE . I DROPPED it right away and blacklisted him/the program.
                                                                                                  He also had other shady things I don't want to mention here because I don't have time for this shit .

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                                                                                                  • Christina Muller
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2007
                                                                                                    • 923

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    no problem pocketkangaroo

                                                                                                    this is not my thread its boneprones and Im not on a mission to embarass you or anyone else,it was just with a title like SPONSORS: Stop Bouncing Checks to me. FUCK!!! and no one naming names or making any impact I voiced my thoughts,and I will end it at that and hope we all had a great discussion

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                                                                                                    • QuaWee
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                      • 5791

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by High Class Grass
                                                                                                      Platinum Dave was/is a very shady man. Back in the day (2001 something} I sent 4394 clicks from google adword to his program but NO SALE . I DROPPED it right away and blacklisted him/the program.
                                                                                                      He also had other shady things I don't want to mention here because I don't have time for this shit .
                                                                                                      you had a bad adwords campaign and you blame them?
                                                                                                      i luv mainstream

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