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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis
Baddog will now say this provides proof and it is now 'fact' that he clearly had 15 seconds to wipe Zimmermans blood from his hands.
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Honestly I haven't heard baddog really say anything was "proof" of anything. He has pretty much just been refuting the "Team Trayvon" posters by pointing out the evidence brought in the case.
So far I've seen people posting that it's a "fact" that GZ meant to kill TM all along because GZ had his gun ready to go, because he "stalked" him, because he told the 911 person that TM was running, because he changed his stories with slight variations over time, etc. , etc.
My opinion (and it's only an opinion...not "FACT") is that the whole thing was a giant stupid perfect storm of shit that led to one young man losing his life, and another one having his life ruined forever.
I don't think GZ "stalked" TM or wanted to kill him.
I just think GZ did what most of us would do if they were on neighborhood watch and their neighborhood had been burglarized numerous times. I know I wouldn't have let that person out of my site. Hopefully, most of us would have calmed the situation down and it wouldn't have gotten out of control.
But THAT is where TM comes into play. Apparently some people on this board have never dealt with testosterone fueled young men. TM was pissed at being followed. His girlfriend stated that on the stand.
TM made the mistake of beating up a guy with a gun. It happens every day. People should learn to keep their hands to themselves.
That's not easy when you're angry. I know that if I were in TM's shoes...I may have done the same thing. I do not like busybody people fucking with me. So I might have been dumb enough myself to have turned on GZ. Not sure I would have went straight to kicking his ass though. I probably would have gave him hell verbally. But who knows?
Anyway...I started rambling. lol
I don't think baddog has been stating "Facts" as some have in this thread.
What I've noticed is that there are a few folks on here who are so convinced that TM was murdered by a "stalking" psychopath "white" guy....that when anybody says: "Wait, that's not what the testimony in the trial was" they immediately go ballistic as if their own last name was "Martin".
I've also noticed that anything that was said in court that might convict GZ is the gospel truth. And ANYTHING that might prove GZ was acting in self defense is obviously a lie.
And now, just because I've said that...somebody will attack me, Fox News will be brought into the conversation, and I will be branded a racist.
Hey guys...none of us have any real connection to this trial. We're all just watching it on t.v. and processing what we see through the prism of our own life experiences and beliefs.
I saw the buildup to the trial where it was so racially charged.
I have watched parts of the trial on CNN each day and watched the panel of attorneys on Anderson Cooper 360 discuss and give their legal opinion that the prosecution had no case.
I've seen jury experts on that same show say that jurors usually already have their minds made up the first day.
My OPINION from everything I've seen is that the state did not prove the case.
Having said that...I still have no idea what the jury will do. I have had the feeling that they are going to say "Guilty" no matter what because of the intense media barrage that convicted GZ in the public eye long before they were ever even picked as jurors.
I'm thinking that's probably how a lot of cases end up going in court. People wanting to have some sort of "Justice". It's just human nature.