Mutt

The Zimmerman case got me thinking about the defense of 'self defense'.

If I'm at the grocery store and some douchebag pushes me and cuts in front of me at the checkout, i'm pissed, he pays for his groceries and exits, 2 minutes later I exit the store and he's there and i say to him 'you're an asshole' and he replies 'fuck off crybaby' and i walk over and get in his face, one of us pushes the other and we start wrestling/punching, pretty much a mutual agreement to fight and as we're wrestling he gets the upper hand on me and has me on the ground and is punching my face, if I have a gun and can get to it I can shoot him? that's self defense?

that is insane if true - one person could think to himself as he's getting his face punched in 'this guy is stronger than me and he's going to keep punching my face in and hell he could cause my brain to hemmorhage, oh my god i'm gonna die' and another person, one who is tougher or stupider has probably been in fights before and all he's worried about is how bad his face is going to be messed up, it doesn't enter his mind that the beating he's taking could kill him.

how many physical altercations without weapons happen a year, probably tens of thousands, and how many deaths result from those type of altercations? probably a very small percentage.

Zimmerman's story is that Trayvon Martin saw his gun and was going for it - and why he grabbed it before Martin could get it and used it. I believe Zimmerman's story except that part, I think he was getting beaten in a fist fight with a teenager, possibly panicked and grabbed his gun and shot the kid. I don't believe it was self defense.

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