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  • mineistaken
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    • Apr 2007
    • 29656
    #1

    Misterpeabody - honest question for you

    No disrespect, just genuinely interested in your answer.

    I see you claiming super ratios of your program, like at the worst 1:1000, usually you claim even better, like 1:500 or something like that.

    Could you elaborate why your program converts few times better than all the rest?
    For instance I looked at your "screw wife" site.
    Sites like that on blog traffic convert 1:5000 for me. You claim at worst 1:1000, meaning 5 times better. What makes your site better than all the others in that niche?
    What I see and what are cons in my eyes:
    1. content is pretty old and generic
    2. content looks not exclusive

    So logic says it should convert even worse than most of the sites in the niche, yet you claim way better conversions. Why? Take it from surfer point of view - why is your site is so much more appealing to surfer?

    Like I said, I am genuinely curious.
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    • nexcom28
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jan 2005
      • 3716
      #2
      If you convert at 1:5000 with blog traffic you are doing it all wrong. You can't just go..

      xxsitexx.com is the best site in the world, I really like it, check out these whores!

      And expect it to convert.
      You need to treat your visitors like real people and not bullshit them.

      In my experience content is not that important, what is important are the word you use.

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        • _Richard_
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Oct 2006
          • 30991
          #3
          very good question.

          Mr. Peabody?

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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089
              #4
              Originally posted by nexcom28
              If you convert at 1:5000 with blog traffic you are doing it all wrong.
              No kidding, if I go 1:100 with blog traffic I find a new sponsor.

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                • _Richard_
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 30991
                  #5
                  believe he was talking about 'sites like that with my blog traffic'

                  glad everyones doing 1:100 with blog traffic tho.

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                    • lucas131
                      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 11475
                      #6
                      you want him to tell you his knowhow?

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                        • DWB
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 31779
                          #7
                          Originally posted by mineistaken
                          "1. content is pretty old and generic
                          2. content looks not exclusive "
                          Said no guy with his cock in his hand, ever.

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                            • mineistaken
                              See signature :)
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 29656
                              #8
                              Originally posted by nexcom28
                              If you convert at 1:5000 with blog traffic you are doing it all wrong. You can't just go..
                              Yes, I could do better, its a bit worse because I like to use semi blind links, like "click here to see more of this chick" and link to sponsor. People expect to see more of her (like pics or vids) and instead they get to the tour page. So thats why my ratio is worse than it could be.
                              However its not the point of my thread, I am curious about why his sites are so appealing to surfers that they maintain such good ratios as he claim.

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                                • nexcom28
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jan 2005
                                  • 3716
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  No kidding, if I go 1:100 with blog traffic I find a new sponsor.
                                  Well I don't know about 1:100 but I deal with a whole load of sponsors and it looks a little like this (lifetime)

                                  1:46
                                  1:63
                                  1:100
                                  1:105
                                  1:212
                                  1:266
                                  1:447
                                  1:2264

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                                    • mineistaken
                                      See signature :)
                                      • Apr 2007
                                      • 29656
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by DWB
                                      Said no guy with his cock in his hand, ever.
                                      No need to get offensive, there was no intention to offend his site, I merely tried to look from surfer point of view and I would like to understand why his site converts much better than others in the niche. Whenever somebody claims bad ratios he says that his sites converts way better, I want to understand why do surfers like his sites so much. So far I do not see anything that should move them in front of competition or anything that suggest they convert better than the rest.

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                                        • Jel
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2007
                                          • 6904
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by mineistaken
                                          No need to get offensive, there was no intention to offend his site, I merely tried to look from surfer point of view and I would like to understand why his site converts much better than others in the niche. Whenever somebody claims bad ratios he says that his sites converts way better, I want to understand why do surfers like his sites so much. So far I do not see anything that should move them in front of competition or anything that suggest they convert better than the rest.
                                          because you're a webmaster pretending to be a surfer and looking, not a genuine surfer with a hardon. No matter how hard we try, we are still webmasters, and have seen way, way more paysites/tours/content than any surfer

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                                            • CurrentlySober
                                              Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 38948
                                              #12
                                              i like Mr. Poobody?


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                                                • SpicyM
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 4575
                                                  #13
                                                  You can't compare sponsor ratios with affiliate ratios. Sponsors get the best converions on type-ins, so it is pretty normal to convert below 1:500 with no magical traffic source.
                                                  no sig, sorry

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                                                    • deltav
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2010
                                                      • 1243
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by SpicyM
                                                      You can't compare sponsor ratios with affiliate ratios. Sponsors get the best converions on type-ins, so it is pretty normal to convert below 1:500 with no magical traffic source.
                                                      This, this & this.

                                                      Type-in traffic is the Holy Grail of prospective subscribers, and unfortunately it's the one thing affiliates typically don't get credit for. Which is why affiliates should have links all over the place - not just on their obvious banners & ads, but all in the text, wherever possible. Get the surfer locked with your code before they head up to the address bar and type that domain themselves.

                                                      I do better than 1:500 with DeltaofVenus.com without any trouble, but type-ins are a factor for sure.
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                                                        • mineistaken
                                                          See signature :)
                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                          • 29656
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by SpicyM
                                                          You can't compare sponsor ratios with affiliate ratios. Sponsors get the best converions on type-ins, so it is pretty normal to convert below 1:500 with no magical traffic source.
                                                          Hey, I am not that stupid.
                                                          I am, of course, speaking strictly about affiliate ratios (when he claims what his affiliates does or when he claims that "you should do at least that ratio if you promote my program")

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                                                            • The Porn Nerd
                                                              Living The Dream
                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                              • 19787
                                                              #16
                                                              What a great thread! It gives me a chance to point out some factors that may answer the OP's great question.

                                                              First, I have 32 paysites with 17 of them being promoted via my affiliate program. So when I say "1:500 or better" I am not talking about ALL of my sites; some do better some do worse. So generally i am asking affiliates to promote these "top sites":

                                                              ErosExotica.com
                                                              TouchTheBody.com
                                                              FelluciaBlow.com
                                                              ScrewMyWifeClub.com
                                                              TheArtofHandjobs.com
                                                              Bollywood-Nudes.com

                                                              Those are the top sites but these also do well:

                                                              ChubbyBlondy.com
                                                              MILFMia.com
                                                              SexxyBrandon.com
                                                              DutchFantasies.com
                                                              ParodyBros.com

                                                              The first group gets about 1:400 while the second group does about 1:800-1:1000. But why do surfers join my sites when some of the content is, indeed, "older" (even SD over HD)? Simple:

                                                              1. Join 1 site, get 32+ sites plus daily-updated bonus content
                                                              2. The whole 'Mister Peabody World network' vibe is fun and playful and unique
                                                              3. While the content may be everywhere - like with Screw My Wife Club, which comes from the 'Screw My Wife Please' DVD line (98 titles) or ParodyBros, which comes from a line of great porn parody DVDs - it's presented in a fun, new way (join the Screw My Wife CLUB - everyone wants to be part of a club; change one word, change everything)
                                                              4. When a surfer hits a tour like this they are coming "pre-sold" so i get them to the Join page immediately:

                                                              http://www.erosexotica.com/index1.html

                                                              For "readers" from Blogs they hit a page like this:

                                                              http://www.touchthebody.com/index1.html

                                                              So basically here's the answer: simple but effective tours, content presented in a unique, fun way, added Bonus sites for value and Member retention. oh - and I add a new website to the network about 6-8 times a year so Members continue to get value and see content that is new to them (while not necassarily "new").

                                                              Signup below! LOL
                                                              My Affiliate Programs:
                                                              Porn Nerd Cash | Porn Showcase | Aggressive Gold

                                                              Over 90 paysites to promote!
                                                              Now on Teams: peabodymedia

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                                                                • baddog
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                  • 107089
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by nexcom28
                                                                  Well I don't know about 1:100 but I deal with a whole load of sponsors and it looks a little like this (lifetime)

                                                                  1:46
                                                                  1:63
                                                                  1:100
                                                                  1:105
                                                                  1:212
                                                                  1:266
                                                                  1:447
                                                                  1:2264
                                                                  Definitely some convert better than others and if I looked at lifetime with some I dropped, it would certainly look worse than that on some. Mellisa Midwest for example, never converted for me.

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                                                                    • Ayla_SquareTurtle
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                      • 3550
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Can y'all really not see how his network is different? It's in the marketing. Dude makes me want to sign up for that Eros Exotica stuff and I'm a jaded paysite reviewer.
                                                                      gone. long gone.

                                                                      aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

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                                                                        • The Porn Nerd
                                                                          Living The Dream
                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                          • 19787
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle
                                                                          Can y'all really not see how his network is different? It's in the marketing. Dude makes me want to sign up for that Eros Exotica stuff and I'm a jaded paysite reviewer.
                                                                          CCBill check is in the mail. LOL

                                                                          My Affiliate Programs:
                                                                          Porn Nerd Cash | Porn Showcase | Aggressive Gold

                                                                          Over 90 paysites to promote!
                                                                          Now on Teams: peabodymedia

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                                                                            • ruff
                                                                              I have a plan B
                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                              • 5507
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Don't let Mr. Peabody fool you. He makes it sound simple. The fact is he works his ass off every day promoting his network. He is a master at building traffic and analyzing its effectiveness. He is constantly tweaking and fine tuning his product. His hard work pays off. That is the part that is simple. A good salesman can sell anything especially in this market. Exclusive content only counts to someone that has seen it all.
                                                                              CryptoFeeds

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                                                                                • shimmy2
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2009
                                                                                  • 3271
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  solution is to sell something you can blog intelligently about
                                                                                  Make $$$ with Toticos.com! | Email: 1bluemiata@gmail | Joutube: ShimmyCash | Faceberg: ShimmyCash

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                                                                                    • Bman
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                      • 1679
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      More then anything I would ask the guys who own the sites how they do?

                                                                                      I can figure out how he does and good for him...and honestly it is a good business plan.

                                                                                      I see it as free money for people who have content and get residual income.

                                                                                      Who cares what the conversions rates are in the end if it makes you money whats the difference..try it and see if it works for you.
                                                                                      ICQ 228211529

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                                                                                        • icymelon
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2007
                                                                                          • 3220
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          exclusive content doesn't affect ratios. over used content affects ratios.
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                                                                                            • Pineapplez
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2011
                                                                                              • 246
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Im a webmaster, and a surfer. I make a few 100's each month, on a hobby level. When i have figured out how to make more than a cpl of 1000 each month, i'll quit my job. But im still a newbie. Im learning!
                                                                                              Im also a a surfer. I read every now and then, "you need to think as a surfer/visitor, not as a webmaster".
                                                                                              Ok, that's exactly what im trying to do, trying to figure out how to make enough money to go fulltime.
                                                                                              Here's a few things:

                                                                                              My "niche of choice" is amateurs and/or hairy. Natural girls, pure and simple.
                                                                                              Abbywinters, girlsoutwest, ATK hairy etc, that's exactly the kind of sites i'd be happy to spend money with. And that's exactly what i do.
                                                                                              I've been a member for almost two years on both sites.
                                                                                              And there's a simple reason. They give me exactly what i want!

                                                                                              - Lots of content (they got alot of exactly what i want)
                                                                                              - They update (they give me more, and thats the reason i let them charge my visa again after 30 days)

                                                                                              It's simple. That's the two reasons why i joined, and why i stay.

                                                                                              If was to search google for the kind of things im looking for, i'd type something like 'natural hairy girls'.
                                                                                              Im in sweden and the top 5 results are some youtube crap. The first adult result is http://hairy.amkingdom.com/02/
                                                                                              PERFECT! I would have joined in under two minutes if i was'nt already a member.

                                                                                              That being said, I dont buy that "Join one site and get 50 bonus sites"?! That's totally irrelevant!
                                                                                              Maybe it's just me.

                                                                                              If i look for a site that has content that turns me on, hairy/natural girls in my case, that is what i want. I could care less if you give me access to your ass-to-mouth site, your double penetration site and your this or that site. Thanks, that's very generous, but i dont care. It's not the niches that im looking for.

                                                                                              As i said, maybe it's just me, but the BONUS sites thing, that alot of sponsors use as a sell argument, doesnt do shit for the surfer in me.
                                                                                              Why not cut down the site portfolio to five sites with ten times the amount of content you have now?

                                                                                              Anyway, that was me thinking as the surfer in me.
                                                                                              As a webmaster im still at a cpl of hundred bucks each month, so im obviously doing something wrong. Haha...
                                                                                              Last edited by Pineapplez; 07-04-2013, 10:32 PM.

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                                                                                                • bean-aid
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jun 2011
                                                                                                  • 16493
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Pineapplez
                                                                                                  Im a webmaster, and a surfer. I make a few 100's each month, on a hobby level. When i have figured out how to make more than a cpl of 1000 each month, i'll quit my job. But im still a newbie. Im learning!
                                                                                                  Im also a a surfer. I read every now and then, "you need to think as a surfer/visitor, not as a webmaster".
                                                                                                  Ok, that's exactly what im trying to do, trying to figure out how to make enough money to go fulltime.
                                                                                                  Here's a few things:

                                                                                                  My "niche of choice" is amateurs and/or hairy. Natural girls, pure and simple.
                                                                                                  Abbywinters, girlsoutwest, ATK hairy etc, that's exactly the kind of sites i'd be happy to spend money with. And that's exactly what i do.
                                                                                                  I've been a member for almost two years on both sites.
                                                                                                  And there's a simple reason. They give me exactly what i want!

                                                                                                  - Lots of content (they got alot of exactly what i want)
                                                                                                  - They update (they give me more, and thats the reason i let them charge my visa again after 30 days)

                                                                                                  It's simple. That's the two reasons why i joined, and why i stay.

                                                                                                  If was to search google for the kind of things im looking for, i'd type something like 'natural hairy girls'.
                                                                                                  Im in sweden and the top 5 results are some youtube crap. The first adult result is http://hairy.amkingdom.com/02/
                                                                                                  PERFECT! I would have joined in under two minutes if i was'nt already a member.

                                                                                                  I dont buy that "Join one site and get 50 bonus sites"?!
                                                                                                  Maybe it's just me, but that's totally irrelevant.
                                                                                                  If i look for a site that has content that turns me on, hairy/natural girls in my case, that is what i want. I could care less if you give me access to your ass-to-mouth site, your double penetration site and your this or that site. Thanks, that's very generous, but i dont care. It's not the niches that im looking for.

                                                                                                  As i said, maybe it's just me, but the BONUS sites thing, that alot of sponsors use as a sell argument, doesnt do shit for the surfer in me.
                                                                                                  Why not cut down the site portfolio to five sites with ten times the amount of content you have now?

                                                                                                  Anyway, that was me thinking as the surfer in me.
                                                                                                  As a webmaster im still at a cpl of hundred bucks each month, so im obviously doing something wrong. Haha...
                                                                                                  Do swedish guys really like hairy muffs? And since when is 1k enough to live in sweden?

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                                                                                                    • Pineapplez
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Dec 2011
                                                                                                      • 246
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                                      Do swedish guys really like hairy muffs?
                                                                                                      Yes, no and maybe!

                                                                                                      Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                                      And since when is 1k enough to live in sweden?
                                                                                                      "When i have figured out how to make more than a cpl of 1000 each month, i'll quit my job."

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                                                                                                        • baddog
                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                          • 107089
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Pineapplez
                                                                                                          Yes, no and maybe!


                                                                                                          "When i have figured out how to make more than a cpl of 1000 each month, i'll quit my job."
                                                                                                          He doesn't comprehend English well, that was a nice piece you wrote.

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                                                                                                            • bean-aid
                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                              • Jun 2011
                                                                                                              • 16493
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                              He doesn't comprehend English well, that was a nice piece you wrote.
                                                                                                              Take his picture then. Not everyone is so saaaavy as you ;) Congrats on being quick as a whip and 110 years old.

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                                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                  • 107089
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  thank you

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                                                                                                                    • bean-aid
                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2011
                                                                                                                      • 16493
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                      thank you
                                                                                                                      Welcome. Btw it costs like 10k/month to live in sweden compared to around 5k in the states. Swedes come over to nyc to shop because they feel it is dirt cheap.

                                                                                                                      So anyways, since when can you live on 2k/month in Sweden?

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                                                                                                                        • Pineapplez
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                          • 246
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                                                          So anyways, since when can you live on 2k/month in Sweden?
                                                                                                                          Ok, when i have figured out how to make $5k/month, i'll quit my job.

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                                                                                                                            • lucas131
                                                                                                                              ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 11475
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                                                              Welcome. Btw it costs like 10k/month to live in sweden compared to around 5k in the states. Swedes come over to nyc to shop because they feel it is dirt cheap.

                                                                                                                              So anyways, since when can you live on 2k/month in Sweden?
                                                                                                                              living for 5k or 10k monthly? oh man, where do you live? and how do you live? champagne shower every morning? have been living in some expensive places like chamonix, geneve or cannes and nowhere it was even close to that ...

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                                                                                                                                • DWB
                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 31779
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                                                                  Btw it costs like 10k/month to live in sweden compared to around 5k in the states.
                                                                                                                                  Where do you live? That seems expensive.

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                                                                                                                                    • epitome
                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Lame
                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2009
                                                                                                                                      • 12156
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      So Epoch changing their join form and killing your business was an exaggeration?

                                                                                                                                      Some of the other desperate oh my god world is ending threads were exaggerations, too?

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                                                                                                                                        • Google Expert
                                                                                                                                          Webmaster
                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 14294
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          MisterPeeBody is full of shit.

                                                                                                                                          Ask him to post a screenshot of his 1:500 ratios.

                                                                                                                                          He can't.

                                                                                                                                          It's just a plot to lure in affiliates.

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                                                                                                                                            • dehash
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2011
                                                                                                                                              • 889
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Getsu
                                                                                                                                              MisterPeeBody is full of shit.

                                                                                                                                              Ask him to post a screenshot of his 1:500 ratios.

                                                                                                                                              He can't.

                                                                                                                                              It's just a plot to lure in affiliates.
                                                                                                                                              Why someone wouldn't post his affiliate ratios with MisterPeeBody? Screenshot of course.
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                                                                                                                                                • mineistaken
                                                                                                                                                  See signature :)
                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                                                  • 29656
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                                                                                  Welcome. Btw it costs like 10k/month to live in sweden compared to around 5k in the states. Swedes come over to nyc to shop because they feel it is dirt cheap.

                                                                                                                                                  So anyways, since when can you live on 2k/month in Sweden?
                                                                                                                                                  Not really. You can live on "more than couple of 1000$" in Sweden.
                                                                                                                                                  And no you do not need 5000$ to live in the states, more than 80% of Americans do not earn that.
                                                                                                                                                  Even 2000$ would be probably more than many blue collar workers earn.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Google Expert
                                                                                                                                                      Webmaster
                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 14294
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                                                                                                      And no you do not need 5000$ to live in the states
                                                                                                                                                      You do in places like New York.

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                                                                                                                                                        • nico-t
                                                                                                                                                          emperor of my world
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 29903
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                          No kidding, if I go 1:100 with blog traffic I find a new sponsor.
                                                                                                                                                          im sure you do baddog.



                                                                                                                                                          are you sure you're not getting senile on us?

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                                                                                                                                                            • woj
                                                                                                                                                              <&(©¿©)&>
                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 47882
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Getsu
                                                                                                                                                              You do in places like New York.
                                                                                                                                                              "Per capita income (1999) $22,402"

                                                                                                                                                              Data is a bit outdated, today it's probably more like $25k...

                                                                                                                                                              Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra..._New_York_City
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                                                                                                                                                                • nico-t
                                                                                                                                                                  emperor of my world
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 29903
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                                                                                  and how do you live? champagne shower every morning?

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                                                                                                                                                                    • The Ghost
                                                                                                                                                                      IslandDollars.com
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 12188
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      +1 for Misterpeaboy, he's a great marketeer
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                                                                                                                                                                        • mineistaken
                                                                                                                                                                          See signature :)
                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by The Ghost
                                                                                                                                                                          +1 for Misterpeaboy, he's a great marketeer
                                                                                                                                                                          You mean marketing his aff. program to webmasters, right?

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                                                                                                                                                                            • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Posting screenshots is stupid because people can fake screenshots. I never look at Programs posting screenshots. LOL

                                                                                                                                                                              All I can say is try and if it doesn't work for you let's work on making it work for you.

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by epitome
                                                                                                                                                                              So Epoch changing their join form and killing your business was an exaggeration?

                                                                                                                                                                              Some of the other desperate oh my god world is ending threads were exaggerations, too?
                                                                                                                                                                              Obviously your mind cannot comprehend two disparate subjects exisitng in the same space and time. Previous threads complained about billers and traffic, not ratios. I would like more traffic and I would like billers to lessen their scrubs. This makes me a madman and a weirdo, I know.

                                                                                                                                                                              Why don't you start promoting ErosExoticaGay and make all of us some moolah?
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                                                                                                                                                                                • dehash
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2011
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  May be we choosing wrong keywords? Agree, that is it very big difference if you chose "free porn" as you keyword. I am waiting for Colmike7 tut, but I think Game of Thrones 4 coming sooner, than tut lol
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Getsu
                                                                                                                                                                                      MisterPeeBody is full of shit.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Ask him to post a screenshot of his 1:500 ratios.

                                                                                                                                                                                      He can't.

                                                                                                                                                                                      It's just a plot to lure in affiliates.
                                                                                                                                                                                      I wouldn't doubt overall 1:500 ratios for a sponsor. You have to remember they get the sale if there is no affiliate cookie or other tracking in place. Then you have to consider that usually sponsors have urls on all the promo material. With this later point it's funny how most affiliates didn't catch on. For the last several years we have heard sponsors bragging about getting great type ins from watermarks on tubes. Yet when it comes to those same watermarks on the affiliate content "Ohhhhh! No one types in that tiny url. Don't worry about it! It's probably less than .0001% of sales!"

                                                                                                                                                                                      If a sponsor gets X ratio an affiliate can probably expect something like "X*3" all other things being equal. It's a decent rule of thumb.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by signupdamnit; 07-05-2013, 08:27 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jel
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                                          I wouldn't doubt overall 1:500 ratios for a sponsor. You have to remember they get the sale if there is no affiliate cookie or other tracking in place. Then you have to consider that usually sponsors have urls on all the promo material. With this later point it's funny how most affiliates didn't catch on. For the last several years we have heard sponsors bragging about getting great type ins from watermarks on tubes. Yet when it comes to those same watermarks on the affiliate content "Ohhhhh! No one types in that tiny url. Don't worry about it! It's probably less than .0001% of sales!"

                                                                                                                                                                                          If a sponsor gets X ratio an affiliate can probably expect something like "X*3" all other things being equal. It's a decent rule of thumb.
                                                                                                                                                                                          fwiw, tubes = 1% typeins. So you get 100k surfers, 1k will type in, rather than use your aff link - but!!! the actual advertising/banners/text around tube vids are VERY shitty, which personally I believe 'forces' the type-in more from a tube, so I'd feel confident saying less than 1% of your traffic types in a watermarked url.

                                                                                                                                                                                          To me, that's just part of the symbiotic relationship. Sponsor gives me content, somewhere to send joins, I send joins and get paid - win-win, when you factor in the not unreasonable at all factor that a lot of content will get stolen/shared/hotlinked/etc - bit unreasonable of me as an aff to get moody about a site putting a wm on their content.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                                                                                              fwiw, tubes = 1% typeins. So you get 100k surfers, 1k will type in, rather than use your aff link - but!!! the actual advertising/banners/text around tube vids are VERY shitty, which personally I believe 'forces' the type-in more from a tube, so I'd feel confident saying less than 1% of your traffic types in a watermarked url.

                                                                                                                                                                                              To me, that's just part of the symbiotic relationship. Sponsor gives me content, somewhere to send joins, I send joins and get paid - win-win, when you factor in the not unreasonable at all factor that a lot of content will get stolen/shared/hotlinked/etc - bit unreasonable of me as an aff to get moody about a site putting a wm on their content.
                                                                                                                                                                                              For some affiliates - the good, honest ones - I will provide unwatermarked videos for promotion so you can register similar URLs, etc. As long as it's all going to the Tour and Join pages I really don't care.

                                                                                                                                                                                              The issue tho is getting ENOUGH unwatermarked videos on a consistent basis. This is what I'm dealing with right now. A very good affiliate needs unwatermarked videos but he's requesting a lot, on a consistent basis. Usually not a problem providing a few videos to get things started but getting him (or any affiliate) a TON of unwatermarked vids is hard to accomplish. I have a full-time Editor who edits, watermarks, etc so for him to upload in essence TWO versions (watermarked and UNwatermarked) is way too time consuming.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I am looking for a solution tho. LOL
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                                                                                                  fwiw, tubes = 1% typeins. So you get 100k surfers, 1k will type in, rather than use your aff link - but!!! the actual advertising/banners/text around tube vids are VERY shitty, which personally I believe 'forces' the type-in more from a tube, so I'd feel confident saying less than 1% of your traffic types in a watermarked url.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  To me, that's just part of the symbiotic relationship. Sponsor gives me content, somewhere to send joins, I send joins and get paid - win-win, when you factor in the not unreasonable at all factor that a lot of content will get stolen/shared/hotlinked/etc - bit unreasonable of me as an aff to get moody about a site putting a wm on their content.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  The problem is let's say a banner and text link above the video gets 1.5% ctr and let's say 1% will just type it in. All things being equal as an affiliate I just lost 40% of the revenue I actually send because the surfer typed it in and my affiliate code wasn't set. You might also say that people who type in an url manually are more motivated and so mroe liekly to buy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  It is what it is (annoying cliche alert) but it helps explain some of the conversion ratio differences between sponsors and affiliates.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jel
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                                                                                                                                                                                                      For some affiliates - the good, honest ones - I will provide unwatermarked videos for promotion so you can register similar URLs, etc. As long as it's all going to the Tour and Join pages I really don't care.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      The issue tho is getting ENOUGH unwatermarked videos on a consistent basis. This is what I'm dealing with right now. A very good affiliate needs unwatermarked videos but he's requesting a lot, on a consistent basis. Usually not a problem providing a few videos to get things started but getting him (or any affiliate) a TON of unwatermarked vids is hard to accomplish. I have a full-time Editor who edits, watermarks, etc so for him to upload in essence TWO versions (watermarked and UNwatermarked) is way too time consuming.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I am looking for a solution tho. LOL
                                                                                                                                                                                                      MA for trusted affs

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Obviously you need to trust them, but each will cut/edit slightly differently, producing different results etc. Finding affs though who you can 100% is hard, but they are plenty out there if you do research, ask for references etc - I've been such a trusted aff many times, it's easy to get references, and it really does make a huge difference for both the aff and the program

                                                                                                                                                                                                      They just replace watermark with their own, and as you say, that domain is all about your program's site(s) so win-win

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