Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

You certainly have our sympathy as we are ones who are quite familiar with the process of middlemenry and we understand the concept better than most middle men do themselves.

We have been in contact with someone who has done some deep and exhaustive shall we say.... *looking into* this whole idea of 500 dollar annual registration fees and the findings are quite shocking,upsetting, and disenchanting to put it mildly.

Most of this industry operates from a posture of hallucination with respect to 3rd party processors, billers, and pseudo banks.

The problem is our industry at large does not understand dealing with these middle men is a *CON*-fidence game.

The moment you have rock solid reason to lose confidence in your middle man there is next to nothing that middle man can do to get it back.

It does not take much to lose that confidence these days as more and more of us are seeing our accounts closed and shut down when we attempt to hold them accountable on the boards.

Can you imagine if it were not for these boards how dire things would be? We realized back in august of 2010 the game was rigged when we had an insider of one of these billing companies drop dime on the billing company and of all places they dropped it squarely in our lap.

That told me that we had a fan or two on the inside who must have heard or read about our gripes and did their very best to prove to us we were most certainly on to something by asking certain direct questions on the boards!

I will leave it at that... but the game is certainly rigged and as Beaner said in his above post why anyone would use 3rd party payment processors in these times is quite risky and imprudent unless they simply have no other option.

Many thanks for bringing your issue to the boards where at the very least others can see for themselves the desperate and insidious practices that we are confronted with every day when dealing with shady buck passing middle men.

It's not for me to say segpay is shady because we never had a direct relationship with them, I am speaking in generalities because middlemenry regardless of the different company names is the same exact blood sucking animal.

Having your sales sold back to you at 15-20% interest is the real crime here..on top of the 500 dollar annual ransom to stay processing