Fiddy scammers...
How many people here appear to be good guys but are really fucking everyone.....
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Did I mention that my sig is worth quadrizillion trillion bazillions?“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”Comment
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how are you going to deal with guys like donny and ama that are tossing shit and you're not sure who's doing what?Ok i am going to give this a shot. I have some good ideas on simple ways to do this and to get other people using it.
I just registered adultbbb.com I should be able to free up a programmer to work on it in a couple months, programming shouldn't take him more then a few weeks and i think this could be a cool idea, I would just need a few people to start using it. Could I count on any one here ? You know it would be fair and run right. Would be a good resource for people listed on it, free exposure for them especially if it got popular and people used it a lot to find new companies to try out.
Personally I would rather do business with a company where I know they will be held accountable if they screw me. For example, if i had to choice to buy from someone on listed ebay vs craigslist, i am buying on ebay, i know you have good feedback chances are you not going to fuck me and if you do i am going to let everyone know.Comment
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Yup. Paying attention to what is said over time. Meeting people at functions, conventions, hockey games etc.
A look in the eye and a hand shake does me a lot of good. It makes people see that i am a genuine person and it also serves as a deterrent if people do have the idea in the back of their head, of fucking me over.
Im very fortunate, people put money in my account and i send out the content. People check me out with other people. My record and good reputaition work well for me. I get way more business for being honest. For me its not about the money, its about the relationship and the content i produce. I keep those two in good standing, the money comes!!!
If i ever was involved in a miss-understanding, i would put all my effort into clearing it up. Because if someone "RIGHTFULLY" OR "WRONGFULLY slanders my name and reputation, It would suck!!
But then again it is strait forward for me in what i do. So many shades of grey with what a lot of you guys deal with.
Will 76 you seem to be a good guy, i am always entertained with your posts, but alway take the high road and give diplomacy a chance.
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this industry is no different then any other. So you say we exploit women, I don't agree with that but lets say that is the case. Every indusrty exploits people in one way or another. I don't think there are any noble professions or industries out there. They are all full of back stabbers just trying to make a buck no matter who they fuck. It gets old hearing people say " well its the porn industry". It doesn't matter what industry it is, its all the same, you have good and bad people. It's just usually easier to tell who the bad people are.Will...the hypocrisy in this biz runs so deep you will need a submarine to get to the bottom of it....so very few people actually have ethics its unreal.....in the end it is all about the mighty dollar....bottom line.
after all....you are talking about the "porn" industry....the very industry that makes its living exploiting women and/or sex for money..... not exactly the best history for ethical treatment of people.....ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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you know i told you my thougths after you helped educate me on how this stuff works. I don;t know what else you want me to say, I knew nothing of how the paparazzi stuff worked. You explained it and I understand. You know a lot more about the stuff than me, what thoughts do you want to hear from me that I haven't already stated ??ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I guess you could set up a sort of ebay rating system. If you could get enough people supporting it where they'd signup and any time they did a transaction they made sure the other party was on the system too, so they can log the type of transaction and rate eachother positives or negatives. and get a rating out of that somehow. if people began demanding that people had a positive adultbbb score before doing business or had them signup before doing a transaction and so on, maybe something liek that could work. but of course yo'd have people jumping on with multiple accounts and scammers wouldn't us eit anyways, and so on and so on.
if scammers didn't use it then it would be serving its purpose as a place where people can go find a list of good companies to do business with. Guys I am listening to your concerns but a lot of people are mentioning things that I have already addressed and gave solutions for. I have some good ideas i haven't mentioned as well. But if you notice something that hasnt been mentioned please share. If you think it will work if done right then great, because I think i can pull it off or at lease could give it a try. It's not something that I am going to waste weeks of my life on. I have programmers on staff, when one frees up I send him over my notes and how i want it to work, I check his work a couple weeks later the site is built. Then I contact a group of people to get them to test it and use it, then i come back here and tell everyone about it. If it doesnt work, at least I tried and gave something a shot that I had been wanting to do for 8 years.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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i don't think anyone cares if you are a whore, its theives that should be pointed out. If they choose to be theives fine, its their choice but since they want to be all secret about it, I think that is the problem.
whore = theives ?
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yah man. i think you need to do what i did and not care about these fucking people anymore.
they are going to cheat.
they are going to steal.
they are going to steal their grandmothers teeth when she dies if they have gold in them.
its the nature of the industry.
research it.
the industry is founded on shady practices from day one, evolved through shady practices, and is doing it again. this is nothing new.
i researched heavily the adult entertainment industry. its just the way it is.
we are trying to legitimize an illegitimate industry on many counts. we are not morally acceptable to society in many facets.
we attract less than honorables. the industry is a flytrap for criminals. always has been. not everyone here is an ethical business person. we cannot be surprised that someone will shake your hand in person and stab a rusty dagger in your back to make an extra .25 cents a month.
i have learned to not trust ANYONE. ANYONE.
we will not change the industry.
all you can do is ride along and learn how to make your money honest if you don't want to make it at the expense of others.
the tube sites are not doing anything illegal. they are hiding behind a loophole, several of them actually. but legally, they are not breaking the law.
where everyone gets caught up and emotional is that we know each other and expect people to have a code.
many of the people in this business have no ethics.
i am much happier now that i trust NO ONE. make your decisions with that mindset, as i am sure you do already and don't worry about who's shady and who's not. i lost thousands of dollars trying to unite these renegades. you can't do it.
just some friendly advice, stop caring about them man.
fuck em.
make your money. start fucking them back.
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yah man. i think you need to do what i did and not care about these fucking people anymore.
they are going to cheat.
they are going to steal.
they are going to steal their grandmothers teeth when she dies if they have gold in them.
its the nature of the industry.
research it.
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when you say they all do you mean everybody including you ?
posting on here from time to time doesn't affect my money, I am still making it the same regardless if i post here. I dont watch tv, if i didnt post here i would probably go take a TV break. The only reason I post here is because i need a quick break, i cant work none stop hours at a time. Maybe I have ADD but i cant do the same thing for more than an hour or two with out at least a 10 min break.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Will you can tell yourself that all day. You have shit to prove to me. You spend hours here, like many of us. Nothing wrong with that.when you say they all do you mean everybody including you ?
posting on here from time to time doesn't affect my money, I am still making it the same regardless if i post here. I dont watch tv, if i didnt post here i would probably go take a TV break. The only reason I post here is because i need a quick break, i cant work none stop hours at a time. Maybe I have ADD but i cant do the same thing for more than an hour or two with out at least a 10 min break.
I like you, you get the squeeky wheel attention. But you're making the same mistake I did.
You can't legitimize renegades.
Don't insinuate shit about me or you'll piss me off.
Have a great night man. Seriously.Comment
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i meant to say, you dont have ANYTHING to prove to me.Will you can tell yourself that all day. You have shit to prove to me. You spend hours here, like many of us. Nothing wrong with that.
I like you, you get the squeeky wheel attention. But you're making the same mistake I did.
You can't legitimize renegades.
Don't insinuate shit about me or you'll piss me off.
Have a great night man. Seriously.
i just lol my ass off at people who say they are never on gfy and its so obvious they are.
anyway, i'm just giving you constructive criticism.
every time you go on some crusade about something you are wasting time. period. there is no way around it. you change nothing with your posts about scammers. no one cares. no one is going to stop sending traffic to anyone. no one will stop business with anyone. all you do is attract them more attention and actually you help them. it took me forever to realize and not start scamming asshole threads anymore.
once you can do the same, you're good. no one cares man. really they don't.
fight the assholes off the boards. thats the only thing that will help. there is no gang that is gonna wipe piracy off the web or stop all the people in this biz from robbing each other.
lawsuits in the right situation is the only thing productive. pak group will help out some, but they wont stop piracy. they will help the people who want to seek help and take piracy serious.


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I laugh my ass off at the people on GFY who read what they want to read. Please point out where I said " I am never on GFY". I said I post here throughout the day because I take breaks. What the fuck? i thought it was pretty simple, I work a lot, i take breaks when I do i choose to waste the time here. I was replying to you saying "don't waste your time here make money" etc.. I am not trying to justify or prove anything to you.
I'll give some to, you tried to make a difference, you got burned out now you think it is impossible for things to change. Do you think that is a little egotisitcal on your part? Just because you couldn't make a dent then everyone else is just wasting their time trying.
I don't understand you people, most of the time I am posting here I am just venting, and when I am finished it makes me feel better. If it pisses off the idiots who are scamming, great that's a bonus. If it causing just one person to stop sending them traffic, that's even better.
BTW, take it for what it is worth, I am not trying to prove anything to you, there is no one who posts on this site that I give a shit what they think I am not here to make bros or friends.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I laugh my ass off at the people on GFY who read what they want to read. Please point out where I said " I am never on GFY". I said I post here throughout the day because I take breaks. What the fuck? i thought it was pretty simple, I work a lot, i take breaks when I do i choose to waste the time here. I was replying to you saying "don't waste your time here make money" etc.. I am not trying to justify or prove anything to you.
I'll give some to, you tried to make a difference, you got burned out now you think it is impossible for things to change. Do you think that is a little egotisitcal on your part? Just because you couldn't make a dent then everyone else is just wasting their time trying.
I don't understand you people, most of the time I am posting here I am just venting, and when I am finished it makes me feel better. If it pisses off the idiots who are scamming, great that's a bonus. If it causing just one person to stop sending them traffic, that's even better.
BTW, take it for what it is worth, I am not trying to prove anything to you, there is no one who posts on this site that I give a shit what they think I am not here to make bros or friends.
do you want to make a wager that this industry will unite?
i'd imagine odds are better on nuclear winter tomorrow morning when i wake up.
likewise, think what you want. keep wasting your time, i could care less. just thought i would let you know the end result is the same.
i think you're a pretty smart guy, i thought you can tell the difference between confidence and ego. i have no ego. ask anyone who knows me. do i care if you think i'm egotistical? about as much as i care what color underwear sleazy wears.
i'm far from burned out. i am intelligent motherfucker and know when to stop wasting time.
yah yah, you're so rich, blah blah. even trump doesn't waste his valuable time, he uses it to get more rich.
i respect your passion.
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I will take your bet, I bet the industry wont unite, how much do you owe me now ? lol. I know it wont. I never said i was trying to either. You people seem to think I am here for the sole purpose of trying to change the fucking world. I posted about zango because that was the only thing I could do really and because it affected MY money. I post here to vent more than anything else.do you want to make a wager that this industry will unite?
i'd imagine odds are better on nuclear winter tomorrow morning when i wake up.
likewise, think what you want. keep wasting your time, i could care less. just thought i would let you know the end result is the same.
i think you're a pretty smart guy, i thought you can tell the difference between confidence and ego. i have no ego. ask anyone who knows me. do i care if you think i'm egotistical? about as much as i care what color underwear sleazy wears.
i'm far from burned out. i am intelligent motherfucker and know when to stop wasting time.
yah yah, you're so rich, blah blah. even trump doesn't waste his valuable time, he uses it to get more rich.
i respect your passion.

Hey if Trump can work 24/7 without taking a break more power to him.
you post here telling me nothing will change and making post about igunana's in people's asses. I make posts bitching and calling people out, we both wasting time eh?
I never said I am rich etc. etc... If i wasn't posting here I would be taking a jerk off break, maybe go hit a couple golf balls in the yard, etc... most of the time i take break to post here. its a fact, not a justification.
Now I am off to have drinks and do some business.
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yah got me.
just don't like to see other people with passion for something spinning wheels man.
enjoy your drinks, i am watching american gangster.Comment
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I never said I am rich etc. etc... If i wasn't posting here I would be taking a jerk off break, maybe go hit a couple golf balls in the yard, etc... most of the time i take break to post here. its a fact, not a justification.
Now I am off to have drinks and do some business.
Great, you are off to drink? Fuck off you pos drunk scumbag. You are on this board way too often for you to call them "jerk off breaks."
You waste more time on this board than most anybody. Plus, you are really stupid and don't even know it. That is why you are so fucking funny! Nobody gives a shit what you "think" about anything . . . . and I love the fact that you think people care what you think. You could die today and nobody would notice and worse yet, NOBODY would care.
You are a shit stain on the new white carpet. You are worthless.
Keep on posting dummy, you make everyone laugh !!!!!!
You fucker.Comment
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will COULD disappear tomorrow and noone would care, you're probably right. you on the other hand, you could disappear and never come back and we'd throw a fucking celebration. won't you just die already?Great, you are off to drink? Fuck off you pos drunk scumbag. You are on this board way too often for you to call them "jerk off breaks."
You waste more time on this board than most anybody. Plus, you are really stupid and don't even know it. That is why you are so fucking funny! Nobody gives a shit what you "think" about anything . . . . and I love the fact that you think people care what you think. You could die today and nobody would notice and worse yet, NOBODY would care.
You are a shit stain on the new white carpet. You are worthless.
Keep on posting dummy, you make everyone laugh !!!!!!
You fucker.Comment
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That is primary because boards is not what they used to be, back when I started in the late 90s, the boards was an important tool in your marketing and networking, there was also higher ethics than today and boards was moderated more strict not allowing the same bullshit as today.Yeah the issue is who is going to be someone impartial to rate people.
It's a great idea, but at the end of the day is it really possible.
Every day or two on one of the boards someone is called out and it ends up being a false call out.
If anything someone should put together a reference research service. Before you do any sort of major biz with someone they sort of give you a report of their past dealings and make you aware of any potential drama they may have.
So they can research it and make a decision themself.
One of the main problems is that people do not really treat this as a business anymore, people are judged based on postcount totally disregarding their business and or join date, the date at least say something about when you joined the board / community.I buy plugs
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soo true. If i disappeared I would suspect a couple months later someone would say " why is it so quiet here" , and someone else would reply " don't know, haven't seen that Will guy in a while" and the response to that would be " Who is Will ?"
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HAHAHHAHA!!! Great one!
I love how you imply that others are "with" you in your post. WHO IS WE MOTHER FUCKER? Don't you mean, "YOU"?????
You are a sorry fucking pos individual who can't NOT reply to my posts. I am glad you are as dumb as you are. You make everyone else look VERY smart!
I invite you to take your own life tonight and let GFY really celebrate!!!! Please post at each step! A cam would be great! Thanks fatty!!!Comment
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search.php
Still one of the best tools in the industry to find out whether or not you should do business with someone.
Not that what you want to do isn't admirable but I don't see it working. Eventually that site itself would be put under scrutiny by the masses. Where? Probably right here.Comment
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Even if there is a rating system, people will lie and try to bring down honest companies, wont work.Compound interest.Comment
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So someone will do business with you (buy or sell something) just so they can try to take you down.
GFY is a great place to search but you have to sort through the TONS of fake nicks and bullshit. Anyone here can bitch about anyone for anything. What I have mentioned several times in this thread would be a service that only people who did business together could leave comments about that transaction and rate the other person. Huge difference and a hell of a lot easier then going through pages of bullshit of mostly attacks and drama, mostly 2nd and 3rd hand info to try to figure out what really happened. If you prefer to get info on people and companies that way more power to you.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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scrap that I have a way better one. Just registered something way better, and have a good way to run site.Comment
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tbh and all joking aside....
I am following my role now for a few months as in "fuck everyone expect for the few true people"
I really dont give a rats ass about many of the scum here and in general , there will always be scumbags , twofaced pricks....that life that is bizzz...
I only can count maybe 3 or so people i would trust from this biz.... the rest is pretty much if they try to fuck you fuck them first with me...
Fuck them all is the new motto.... if ya like me i could care less , if you hate me thats fine...
You wanna hang out at a show and chill thats fine , but in the end i know deep down your a pos.
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It doesn't matter what they "say". If they don't have proof to show a business transaction took place then their feeback would be deleted. It wouldn't be a bitch about anyone you want to, it would be a way for people to leave feedback about other people they personally did business with.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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tbh and all joking aside....
I am following my role now for a few months as in "fuck everyone expect for the few true people"
I really dont give a rats ass about many of the scum here and in general , there will always be scumbags , twofaced pricks....that life that is bizzz...
I only can count maybe 3 or so people i would trust from this biz.... the rest is pretty much if they try to fuck you fuck them first with me...
Fuck them all is the new motto.... if ya like me i could care less , if you hate me thats fine...
You wanna hang out at a show and chill thats fine , but in the end i know deep down your a pos.

Who are these 3 people ?
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