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  • zishy
    Registered User
    • Jan 2013
    • 61
    #1

    Strategy for TLD assholes

    What do you guys do when a person joins your affiliate program and buys yourdomain.net and begins competing with search rank in Google with your actual site? Do you drop the affiliate?

    Do you have to buy your brand name with every TLD just to stay sane?

    Sucks.

    z
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    • TheSquealer
      Mayor of Thneedville
      • Oct 2004
      • 26200
      #2
      Accept the traffic and the joins and stop being a dipshit. If, with the help of webmasters, you can own the top 10 results for some phrases that make money... why fuck with that? If they are promoting you, then who cares.
      .
      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

      Rochard

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        • Zeiss
          Confirmed User
          • May 2012
          • 5189
          #3
          If your domain is registered first, you don't need to worry.


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            • zishy
              Registered User
              • Jan 2013
              • 61
              #4
              Originally posted by TheSquealer
              Accept the traffic and the joins and stop being a dipshit. If, with the help of webmasters, you can own the top 10 results for some phrases that make money... why fuck with that? If they are promoting you, then who cares.
              I just have a problem paying people for traffic they don't have originally as webmasters. Am I the only one who considers this 'cheating'?
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                • topsiteking
                  ICQ: 470687453
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3571
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Zealotry
                  If your domain is registered first, you don't need to worry.
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                    • topsiteking
                      ICQ: 470687453
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 3571
                      #6
                      Originally posted by zishy
                      I just have a problem paying people for traffic they don't have originally as webmasters. Am I the only one who considers this 'cheating'?
                      Yes.
                      I would hope so.
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                        • zishy
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 61
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Zealotry
                          If your domain is registered first, you don't need to worry.
                          Yes I know, but it just means you have to buy all the TLDs, which these days there are plenty.
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                            • TheSquealer
                              Mayor of Thneedville
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 26200
                              #8
                              Originally posted by zishy
                              I just have a problem paying people for traffic they don't have originally as webmasters. Am I the only one who considers this 'cheating'?
                              Its traffic you would not have had. This is the problem in your thinking. This is about income. Not ego.
                              .
                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                              Rochard

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                                • MaDalton
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                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 39861
                                  #9
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                                    • Colmike9
                                      (>^_^)b
                                      • Dec 2011
                                      • 7217
                                      #10
                                      Yeah, don't fuck with your affiliates making you money unless you clearly state it in your TOS.. There are a few other good uses for other TLDs of the same name paysite that makes money other than from SEs..

                                      If you didn't want it to be a problem, you should have bought them for cheap..
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                                        • AdultKing
                                          Raise Your Weapon
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 15601
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by zishy
                                          What do you guys do when a person joins your affiliate program and buys yourdomain.net and begins competing with search rank in Google with your actual site? Do you drop the affiliate?

                                          Do you have to buy your brand name with every TLD just to stay sane?

                                          Sucks.

                                          z
                                          What do your program terms and conditions say on the subject ?

                                          Some programs have specific keywords that cannot be bid for or domains that cannot be used eg: brand name in the domain. What does your T&C say ? If there's no mention of it then I'd say unless you have a trademark or want to undertake a UDRP action there's not much to complain about, at least he's sending you traffic and not competing with you or using the domain in bad faith.

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                                            • Colmike9
                                              (>^_^)b
                                              • Dec 2011
                                              • 7217
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by AdultKing
                                              What do your program terms and conditions say on the subject ?

                                              Some programs have specific keywords that cannot be bid for or domains that cannot be used eg: brand name in the domain. What does your T&C say ? If there's no mention of it then I'd say unless you have a trademark or want to undertake a UDRP action there's not much to complain about, at least he's sending you traffic and not competing with you or using the domain in bad faith.
                                              Most of those "Do not bid" keywords that are in the TOS of other programs are just talking about paid bidding on keywords. That's different than what the OP is saying since the results are organic.

                                              If it's not clearly stated in the TOS for affiliates to not use NAME.TLD, then too bad.
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                                                • zishy
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Jan 2013
                                                  • 61
                                                  #13
                                                  Fair enough. I'll make sure its in the TOS.
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                                                    • TheSquealer
                                                      Mayor of Thneedville
                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                      • 26200
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by zishy
                                                      Fair enough. I'll make sure its in the TOS.
                                                      You expect this decision will have a positive impact on traffic, revenue and webmaster relations?

                                                      Upside to you... $0.00
                                                      Possible downside... X...?

                                                      Every decision you make as a business owner, has either positive or negative financial consequences. You have not began to consider that and the very premise "i'm paying for traffic i shouldn't have to" is flawed... unless you own the top 10 results for that phrase. Other people can or will if you don't allow affiliates to. At least they are sending traffic to you. Very few people understand the significance of small decisions and their wider impact. Particularly when the decisions are irrational and emotional based.
                                                      Last edited by TheSquealer; 06-22-2013, 04:09 PM.
                                                      .
                                                      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                      Rochard

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                                                        • zishy
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Jan 2013
                                                          • 61
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                          You expect this decision will have a positive impact on traffic, revenue and webmaster relations?

                                                          Upside to you... $0.00
                                                          Possible downside... X...?
                                                          I will grant you its better than a torrent site's links, but there is no upside to me competing with affiliates who didn't have relevant traffic in the first place.
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                                                            • rogueteens
                                                              So fucking bland
                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                              • 8005
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                              Accept the traffic and the joins and stop being a dipshit. If, with the help of webmasters, you can own the top 10 results for some phrases that make money... why fuck with that? If they are promoting you, then who cares.
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                                                                • woj
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                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                  • 47880
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by zishy
                                                                  Fair enough. I'll make sure its in the TOS.
                                                                  How do you think that will play out? My guess is he will just put up links to a different sponsor...

                                                                  which sounds like lose-lose to me...
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                                                                    • topsiteking
                                                                      ICQ: 470687453
                                                                      • Dec 2007
                                                                      • 3571
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by zishy
                                                                      I will grant you its better than a torrent site's links, but there is no upside to me competing with affiliates who didn't have relevant traffic in the first place.
                                                                      Really?
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                                                                        • TheSquealer
                                                                          Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                                          • 26200
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by zishy
                                                                          I will grant you its better than a torrent site's links, but there is no upside to me competing with affiliates who didn't have relevant traffic in the first place.
                                                                          Surfers searching for your site and clicking the 3rd result instead of the first - with both pointing to you, is not "relevant traffic"?
                                                                          .
                                                                          Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                          Rochard

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                                                                            • TheSquealer
                                                                              Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                              • 26200
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by zishy
                                                                              I will grant you its better than a torrent site's links, but there is no upside to me competing with affiliates who didn't have relevant traffic in the first place.
                                                                              I meant to say "either positive or negative impact"

                                                                              You are choosing the latter.
                                                                              .
                                                                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                              Rochard

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                                                                                • zishy
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jan 2013
                                                                                  • 61
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by woj
                                                                                  How do you think that will play out? My guess is he will just put up links to a different sponsor...

                                                                                  which sounds like lose-lose to me...
                                                                                  Possibly the most rational response yet. You're right, it doesn't play out well for either party. I know it doesn't help me with your scenario, but I also don't think this person would make many sales to other sites.
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                                                                                    • AdultKing
                                                                                      Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 15601
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Just an question, is the OP part of Generation Y ? Would explain the reasoning.

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                                                                                        • zishy
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Jan 2013
                                                                                          • 61
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                          Surfers searching for your site and clicking the 3rd result instead of the first - with both pointing to you, is not "relevant traffic"?
                                                                                          In an ideal world, his links would just not be there and there would be links to my social media pages, etc. I don't think we will see eye to eye on this one but I do appreciate your input... which is why I posted the question in the first place, for input.
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                                                                                            • Colmike9
                                                                                              (>^_^)b
                                                                                              • Dec 2011
                                                                                              • 7217
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Then find the affiliate promoting you with your name.TLD. Then find out of they are converting better than your main site/tour. If so, leave it alone. If not, work with them to make a better converting site.
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                                                                                                • ErectMedia
                                                                                                  Confirmed Chicago Pimp
                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                  • 7100
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  For domains intended for resale I only buy .com. Domains I develop I usually buy .com, .net, .org, .info .biz and .us. If serious development I would grab at least that handful of extensions as a small cost of doing business. If you feel someone bringing you sales with an alternate extension of your domain is cheating then write it in your terms.

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                                                                                                    • zishy
                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                      • Jan 2013
                                                                                                      • 61
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Colmike7
                                                                                                      Then find the affiliate promoting you with your name.TLD. Then find out of they are converting better than your main site/tour. If so, leave it alone. If not, work with them to make a better converting site.
                                                                                                      I like that rationality if the case is that they are converting better than myself. But if it went the other way, which I'd bank on being the case, then it would be counter-productive for me to help them.

                                                                                                      Perhaps, for the purpose of the debate, it should be pointed out that I pay 70% revshare to affiliates.
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                                                                                                        • mikesinner
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                                          • 5646
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by zishy
                                                                                                          I just have a problem paying people for traffic they don't have originally as webmasters. Am I the only one who considers this 'cheating'?
                                                                                                          yes, you are the only one since this is how it's been done from the beginning.

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                                                                                                            • zishy
                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                              • Jan 2013
                                                                                                              • 61
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by ErectMedia
                                                                                                              For domains intended for resale I only buy .com. Domains I develop I usually buy .com, .net, .org, .info .biz and .us. If serious development I would grab at least that handful of extensions as a small cost of doing business. If you feel someone bringing you sales with an alternate extension of your domain is cheating then write it in your terms.
                                                                                                              Absolutely! Hindsight is 20/20.
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                                                                                                                • sarettah
                                                                                                                  see you later, I'm gone
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                  • 14336
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by zishy
                                                                                                                  I like that rationality if the case is that they are converting better than myself. But if it went the other way, which I'd bank on being the case, then it would be counter-productive for me to help them.

                                                                                                                  Perhaps, for the purpose of the debate, it should be pointed out that I pay 70% revshare to affiliates.
                                                                                                                  No matter what you pay affiliates, listen to the people who are answering you. This situation has been seen a bunch of times on this board. We have seen how other folks have handled it and the repercussions of their various decisions.

                                                                                                                  Imho, your bets bet is to work with your affiliates. It is your brand name that is up there and not your competitore. The more stuff on page one that points to your site, either directly or indirectly, the better off you are.

                                                                                                                  Don't be like Alpha Sky. please.

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                                                                                                                    • AdultKing
                                                                                                                      Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                      • 15601
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sarettah
                                                                                                                      Don't be like Alpha Sky. please.

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                                                                                                                        • cybermike
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                          • 4121
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Be happy its not a tube/torrent/filehost site
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                                                                                                                            • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                              • 122992
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by zishy
                                                                                                                              What do you guys do when a person joins your affiliate program and buys yourdomain.net and begins competing with search rank in Google with your actual site? Do you drop the affiliate?

                                                                                                                              Do you have to buy your brand name with every TLD just to stay sane?

                                                                                                                              Sucks.

                                                                                                                              z
                                                                                                                              if he is using the domain to send you sale you OTHERWISE would not have had then STFu and enjoy the sales....

                                                                                                                              Dont be like these other aff programs that flip flop and tell you sureeeeeeeee its ok (Cough Cough ...Fleshlight) and let you send em sales only to 2 years later try to steal the doamin back...

                                                                                                                              Idiots

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                                                                                                                                • Va2k
                                                                                                                                  I’m still alive barley.
                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 10060
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Yea def would stay away from your program!! Just my two cents..

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                                                                                                                                    • tokmansta
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2013
                                                                                                                                      • 566
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      As people said, 1 extra spot torrent sites and warez forums can't claim.

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                                                                                                                                        • Sly
                                                                                                                                          Let's do some business!
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 31378
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          If freeones.com/zishy/ (or whatever) was #2, would you ban them? If not, why not? They are banking on your name just the same.
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                                                                                                                                            • Chris
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 27880
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Only thing we ask of our affiliates is no keyword bidding .. IE our brand vimax

                                                                                                                                              do not bid for keyword "vimax" other variations of it is fine just not the exact keyword and most comply

                                                                                                                                              as for domains ranking #2 ...Good for them they worked hard.
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                                                                                                                                                • kane
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 20684
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Normally I ask a program if they care if I use a similar domain or one that has their name in it and most don't. In some of those cases I have had some great success. A few years back when Brooke Sky was still active I had a blog dedicated to her that was #1 on google for the term Brooke Skye for about a year. I outranked her actual site. The owners of the site never said anything but thanks for the traffic and here's a check.

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                                                                                                                                                    • PornDiscounts-V
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 5745
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Let me tell you about a guy named Steve. Steve had an affiliate program and he had people doing this to him. His program was wildly popular. He made a lot of money. The top results for one of his main girls liked like this :

                                                                                                                                                      Her name. In
                                                                                                                                                      Her name. Net
                                                                                                                                                      Her name. Com
                                                                                                                                                      Her name. Affiliate. Com
                                                                                                                                                      Her name. Biz
                                                                                                                                                      Her name. Affiliate. Com
                                                                                                                                                      Her name. Us
                                                                                                                                                      Her name. Affiliate. Com
                                                                                                                                                      Tube. Com /her stolen video

                                                                                                                                                      And this meant Steve made money on her name. He was protected in a way by those affiliates.

                                                                                                                                                      One day Steve had this wild idea. What if he forced the affiliates with his models name in the TLD to give him the names and he redirected to his. Com? He'd make a lot of money right? Yes. He did for a year. Now the results for this model are :

                                                                                                                                                      Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                      Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                      Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                      Her name. Com
                                                                                                                                                      Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                      Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                      Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                      Tube. Com /her stolen video

                                                                                                                                                      And now everyone sees that they don't need a membership because stolen videos make up the top results. Now he makes nothing compared to what he used to make. Those affiliates that were protecting his top ten results so he always got a piece of the pie aren't there anymore.

                                                                                                                                                      Think of it as having a piece of somebody else's work and not them stealing. Because the reality is they can't just buy the alternate TLD and be #2. They have to work to beat the tubes. For your sake. Also, if not tubes, if you don't have video, file lockers and torrents of your entire site rips.
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                                                                                                                                                        • Sly
                                                                                                                                                          Let's do some business!
                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 31378
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by vvvvv
                                                                                                                                                          Let me tell you about a guy named Steve. Steve had an affiliate program and he had people doing this to him. His program was wildly popular. He made a lot of money. The top results for one of his main girls liked like this :

                                                                                                                                                          Her name. In
                                                                                                                                                          Her name. Net
                                                                                                                                                          Her name. Com
                                                                                                                                                          Her name. Affiliate. Com
                                                                                                                                                          Her name. Biz
                                                                                                                                                          Her name. Affiliate. Com
                                                                                                                                                          Her name. Us
                                                                                                                                                          Her name. Affiliate. Com
                                                                                                                                                          Tube. Com /her stolen video

                                                                                                                                                          And this meant Steve made money on her name. He was protected in a way by those affiliates.

                                                                                                                                                          One day Steve had this wild idea. What if he forced the affiliates with his models name in the TLD to give him the names and he redirected to his. Com? He'd make a lot of money right? Yes. He did for a year. Now the results for this model are :

                                                                                                                                                          Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                          Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                          Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                          Her name. Com
                                                                                                                                                          Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                          Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                          Tube. Com /her stolen video
                                                                                                                                                          Tube. Com /her stolen video

                                                                                                                                                          And now everyone sees that they don't need a membership because stolen videos make up the top results. Now he makes nothing compared to what he used to make. Those affiliates that were protecting his top ten results so he always got a piece of the pie aren't there anymore.

                                                                                                                                                          Think of it as having a piece of somebody else's work and not them stealing. Because the reality is they can't just buy the alternate TLD and be #2. They have to work to beat the tubes. For your sake. Also, if not tubes, if you don't have video, file lockers and torrents of your entire site rips.
                                                                                                                                                          Nice work, you wrote that at the speed of light.
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                                                                                                                                                            • Relentless
                                                                                                                                                              www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                              • 5697
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Do you think yourdomainname.net is ranked #2 automatically?

                                                                                                                                                              Getting that .net to rank above all other entries takes considerable effort. Be thankful the person making that effort is sending you sales. Had you bought the .net and redirected it to the .com it would not e ranked #2 and the site that would be ranked may not have sent sales to you at all.


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                                                                                                                                                                • trevesty
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                  • 3810
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                                                                                                    • bluebook18
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2012
                                                                                                                                                                      • 4082
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Relentless
                                                                                                                                                                      Do you think yourdomainname.net is ranked #2 automatically?

                                                                                                                                                                      Getting that .net to rank above all other entries takes considerable effort. Be thankful the person making that effort is sending you sales. Had you bought the .net and redirected it to the .com it would not e ranked #2 and the site that would be ranked may not have sent sales to you at all.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • zishy
                                                                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2013
                                                                                                                                                                          • 61
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Ok you all convinced me its probably best to not take a harsh stance against the affiliate. I'll let him ride. The main reason being that it is better than a tube/torrent site. Eff that shit.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Colmike9
                                                                                                                                                                              (>^_^)b
                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                                                                              • 7217
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by zishy
                                                                                                                                                                              Ok you all convinced me its probably best to not take a harsh stance against the affiliate. I'll let him ride. The main reason being that it is better than a tube/torrent site. Eff that shit.


                                                                                                                                                                              If it's a torrent site, you could take it legally and have the affiliate forfeit their earnings for other reasons.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • LouiseLloyd
                                                                                                                                                                                  SO FUCKING SCAMMED
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1433
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  If your terms don't state you don't accept this type or promotion then it's your problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                  If you do amend your terms then you should continue to work with those affiliates who signed up before you did this.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Personally as an affiliate I am sick of sponsors changing their terms to suit with regards to this, if they screw me over I simply change the promo content and point to a similar sponsor that way they loose both traffic and sales yet still have the same problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Search traffic does not belong to you, it's anyones for the taking.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Try improving your own seo.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by LouiseLloyd; 06-22-2013, 10:03 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jel
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 6904
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                                      Accept the traffic and the joins and stop being a dipshit. If, with the help of webmasters, you can own the top 10 results for some phrases that make money... why fuck with that? If they are promoting you, then who cares.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • adultforum
                                                                                                                                                                                          SEO SPECIALIST
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 2438
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Be happy that he sent you all the traffic. What would happen if he would sent the whole traffic to your competition?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • woj
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 47880
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              you are also over looking the fact that the keyword you are looking at isn't the only keyword he ranks for... it's quite likely he ranks for dozens of different keywords for which your site isn't even on page 1...
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Google Expert
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Webmaster
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 14294
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by zishy
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I just have a problem paying people for traffic they don't have originally as webmasters. Am I the only one who considers this 'cheating'?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes. You sound like a fucking retard.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by Google Expert; 06-23-2013, 03:30 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • ottopottomouse
                                                                                                                                                                                                      She is ugly, bad luck.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 13177
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sarettah
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Don't be like Alpha Sky. please.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      +1

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Half of something is better than all of nothing.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      ↑ see post ↑
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