Free Porn, stolen content, tube sites, adapt or die... my thoughts on everything.

sounds like a good service.... removeyourcontent.com

This is not true. They do not use it cause they are in for a short stay
They use it to feed other sponsors.

This is also how warez webmasters went from uploading to selling porn. It is a bridge they cross, ones they reach the other side, they are just like you, doing blablabla in a forum and trying to be taken serious by the real workers.

A bridge they cross. You people are too much.

I firmly believe that the people who make excuses for these types of people do the same shaddy shit themselves. I truely believe that.

Stolen content being plastered all over the net definetly is not helping this industry at all. It is clear as day that these people are just trying to make as much money as they can now at all costs, its even more clear the people who try to defend them are very likely doing the same things themselves.

You're out of your fucking mind if you think tube sites control the market.

Ratios off tube traffic are extremely poor & far worse than a shitty tgp with russian & chinese traffic.. Why? because tube sites are visited MOSTLY by freeloaders which is why most tube sites rely on contextual ads, pay per free cams or dating or other FREE shit to monetize their traffic..


While a blog could send 10K to paysite A & make 5 or more sales, a TGP send 10K & make 3 or more sales , a tube site would send 10K & be lucky to net 1 sale.

Also, figure this..

the more people whom visit these tube sites & become accustomed to them, the less they'll pay for porn...

The more abundant these sites become, the more chances visitors will become unlikely to ever pay for memberships...

And for the record, I for one, will NEVER link to, do business with or trade with a tube site.. other than one using TEVS

Membership areas need to be better than the free tube sites.

Right, so start making a list, GOOD PEOPLE | BAD PEOPLE
You know that has no use.

Why not turn this discussion 180 degrees and talk to sponsors, and point your N R G on them. They are in for the sales, no matter how. They make affiliates complete useless. As long sponsors do have their eyes closed, this problem will remain.

Now let us see how AFF did it

They made Tube.penthouse.com and give affiliates options to send traffic and still have sales on this same tube site with remain of PSID

As far i can see, they toke pretty much the middle way, and did it nice. I actually moved my K`s from Webcams.com to this concept. You know what, i have no problems with me doing this. It is a way to make my traffic aware this is the only legal tube site.

As long sponsors do not ofer this, they will be held responsible for creating webmasters you complain about.

PS, i like your thread title " .......my thoughts on everything "
It actually looks like you have a new mission...

I would say, start with sponsors, and only then you will succeed.
But then again, i expect you open also a Tube portal, just cause you cant beat them. Would you be so kind to share that URL with us then, or are you going to TEST how it works for real?

See, my thoughts are, when someone talks about it, she/he will soon be working on it.

so basically you are saying they do control the market then. If lots of people visit them and they greatly affect porn sales, wouldnt that be controlling the market based on what you are saying ??


When you say control the market what do you mean exactly? Sounds like you are taking about sales. I don't think i ever said they " control the market" I've said they now are more popular than tgp/mgp sites and now the tube sites are setting the standard for free porn. 2 - 3 min video clips are now the standard, not (4) 30 second video clips.

So you are saying that only TEVS tubes are ok? There are a lot of other tube sites out there with out stolen content on them.

Or what is the real problem for you: 1. tubes with stolen content. 2. any tubes with longer than 2 min video clips (10+ mins etc..) or 3. all of the above.

There is nothing wrong with tube sites. It's with stolen content. I've never had a problem with tube sites or free content for that matter.

I am not on a mission, i don't know where you getting these ideas from, did i piss in your cheerioes or something ?

I wouldn't use anything related to AFF if you put a gun to my head. But thanks for pointing it out.

I do agree with you though that sponsors opening up their own tube sites are cutting out the middle man (affiliates). I've been talking about tube sites for a good 6 months now. As far as what I have in the works, you will have to wait and see but i can guarantee you that it wont have anything to do with stolen content no matter what I do.

All of the above..

Stolen content is a MAJOR problem.

long clips are a problem too.. that's long enough for the visitor to spank off & dissappear.. Why would he buy porn when he gets it free going from one tube site to the next..

The address in the whois for megaflirt.com is the same as the one for megarotic.com, so yeah, they're the same guys. It's also reasonably interesting that only 5% of their traffic is from the US, according to Alexa.

It depends on which way the sponsor is being promoted.

Tube sites have the advantage of posting sponsor provided content with a banner above of the video - which often converts really well.

I run a tube site and have great conversion ratios doing just that.



In my experience 2 minute videos work best and Ive never come across a sponsor who's objected to that.

And in terms of tube sites controlling the market, probally not but many sponsors often tell me I and other tube sites are their top affiliates.

taking notes...make a free camsite with hot looking girls who do shows for free, check.....

5% of (im guessing 5 million hits a day) 250K potential american daters. Not bad even though its just 5%. i'll take that 5% lol

there is no doubt that tube sites set the standard for " free porn". Tgps / MGPs were stuck at 30secs for years and none of them budged that i was aware of. Now tube sites pop up and over night basically surfers are not satisified unless they get 2 minute++ clips.

Isn't that basically what Stickam is?

stickam ??