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Old 06-10-2013, 12:33 PM  
Joe Obenberger
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Originally Posted by deltav View Post
Normally I agree bringing up extreme examples in a discussion like this doesn't serve anyone, but to be fair Joe did kinda state *all* video including those depicting illegal criminal acts should be legal to view:



So helterskelter was taking it to its logical extension.

I can't get on board with this idea that extreme content (and now I'm talking about Joe's 'grisly videos showing every cruelty' stuff rather than the OP's clip) is "teaching important lessons". To me that sounds like a lawyer married to his ideology. More often than not IMO it serves to titillate, desensitize, and alienate and isn't doing much for viewers' minds beyond warping them a bit.
Deltay, there are a certain number of sheltered people who think that all human beings are basically good and that true evil doesn't exist, that it's just an absence of good, a partial vacuum. It takes that gristly, gross decapitation stuff and the crime scene photos to confront these well-meaing people with how this world really exists and the nature of pure evil. Some people need that, not that free speech needs an excuse. Any ideology I have comes out of experience and empiricism. This world is filled with evil and the point of the law is to protect individuals from evil. One of the things people need protecting from is those who try with every breath to control and manipulate other people and take away individual privacy and freedom.
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